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jtan.pdr
post Oct 27 2019, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Oct 27 2019, 07:34 PM)
Could u elaborate more why Genting not fun?
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post Oct 28 2019, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 27 2019, 02:38 PM)
have done on the bezza

kl - lumut by way of sekinchan, with stay over in teluk anson.

kl - melaka by way dengkil, pd,

kl - pd mini drive on hyway

kl - genting (not fun, not again... lol)

kl - kuantan by way of jerantut (rendezvous persiaran van tour guide fren ) then hyway onwards to cherating

kl - behrang by way of bestari jaya on b33 byway

kl - taiping (normal hyway drive w/ family)

kl - mantin, bentong,  (lulian runs...)

numerous 2 hour drives to nowhere...

most drives alone.
if drive on byway (B roads) at around 60-80 kmh, km/L can reach 19kmL avg. if no jam la...

school holidays now coming and i'm itching to be on the road again..

when i got this car, we were in the midst of cutting down on expenses, with kids college looming and income dwindling..
we had to make cuts... namely having less cars and focusing on just 1 car each for wife n me...
one car that had to do almost everything and be "cheap".
MPV/SUV were gas guzzlers (diesel is not really a thing in mesia, unlike europe) and pricey for my current state..

i was looking for a car that:
1 economical (cost cutting mah..)
2 long distance cruising (car can do town n have long legs to cruise at lower rpm)
3 carry luggage on the longer cruise
4 reliability (still testing as we go thru life)

anything else is a bonus..
manage our expectations, so that we wont be disappointed all the time...
one thing i really miss for long drives is the auto cruise control...

so, ended up with the bezza after much info searching in forums, asking questions, and base spending capability and still have money to have some fun...
didnt want to drive "LOOK AT ME" cars and the bezza is the next thing to being invisible.. i like that... i am like that...
ostentatious showmanship is not my thing...  gone past that stage..
so my bezza DOES NOT HAVE hello kitty stickers or any stickers..
stock standard.

oh.. one thing... bezza seats sucks man... especially long distance, and the driving position (being upright oso sucks)
my legs get cramped during long drives.. especially when i get out of the car and find that my legs have gone to sleep..
and the relation between the seat and the wheel oso sucks.. (for me la)
the steering wheel being non adjustable has made me re-adjust my steering style from 'hand over at the top to hand over at the bottom of the steering wheel..
meaning for long distance, in a more relaxed way, i do the shuffling technique with the hand over of left/right hand at the bottom of the wheel rather than on top of the wheel (cos the wheel sits so high)
doing the cross hand style on top of the wheel means that i have to lean forward from the seat and thats going to be uncomfortable in a long drive..

sekian maklumat yang di ranchangkan untuk sesi ini...
lol
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Honda city or toyota vios should be your choices. Bezza long journey cruising is not tht good, you can feel vibration and underpower on highway. It make long journey much more tired but city and normal road traffic work terrific.
jtan.pdr
post Oct 28 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(KKLeong @ Oct 28 2019, 12:15 PM)
Honda city or toyota vios should be your choices. Bezza long journey cruising is not tht good, you can feel vibration and underpower on highway. It make long journey much more tired but city and normal road  traffic work terrific.
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You are right..
But only if I'm on the road for long period of time..
But this is only for once in awhile long distance drives which I do mabbe.. 5 times a year?
2 hour home to home drives to clear my mind trips, like, Mabbe 10 times a year?
Not much in the grand scheme of things that I do in a year..
And do this for rm 20k+interests more in my pocket. Or 1 year college fees for the boy..
If I didn't get a rm 70+k car..

And there's the price...
took a 3 year repayment loan
and more money in the pocket...
wife complain not 3 star brand car...
or 4 roundrel car...

if rm70k car then must take a 5 year loan
less fancy food
children get less clothing...
wife complains even more...

In other words.. Don't listen to a materialistic wife..
Aaaaaahahhahaha!

Just live within one's means..
And adjust to that life where there is a balance between practical nessecity and and a larger encompassing quality of life.

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Oct 29 2019, 08:38 AM
singk
post Oct 29 2019, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 27 2019, 01:38 PM)
have done on the bezza

kl - lumut by way of sekinchan, with stay over in teluk anson.

kl - melaka by way dengkil, pd,

kl - pd mini drive on hyway

kl - genting (not fun, not again... lol)

kl - kuantan by way of jerantut (rendezvous persiaran van tour guide fren ) then hyway onwards to cherating

kl - behrang by way of bestari jaya on b33 byway

kl - taiping (normal hyway drive w/ family)

kl - mantin, bentong,  (lulian runs...)

numerous 2 hour drives to nowhere...

most drives alone.
if drive on byway (B roads) at around 60-80 kmh, km/L can reach 19kmL avg. if no jam la...

school holidays now coming and i'm itching to be on the road again..

when i got this car, we were in the midst of cutting down on expenses, with kids college looming and income dwindling..
we had to make cuts... namely having less cars and focusing on just 1 car each for wife n me...
one car that had to do almost everything and be "cheap".
MPV/SUV were gas guzzlers (diesel is not really a thing in mesia, unlike europe) and pricey for my current state..

i was looking for a car that:
1 economical (cost cutting mah..)
2 long distance cruising (car can do town n have long legs to cruise at lower rpm)
3 carry luggage on the longer cruise
4 reliability (still testing as we go thru life)

anything else is a bonus..
manage our expectations, so that we wont be disappointed all the time...
one thing i really miss for long drives is the auto cruise control...

so, ended up with the bezza after much info searching in forums, asking questions, and base spending capability and still have money to have some fun...
didnt want to drive "LOOK AT ME" cars and the bezza is the next thing to being invisible.. i like that... i am like that...
ostentatious showmanship is not my thing...  gone past that stage..
so my bezza DOES NOT HAVE hello kitty stickers or any stickers..
stock standard.

oh.. one thing... bezza seats sucks man... especially long distance, and the driving position (being upright oso sucks)
my legs get cramped during long drives.. especially when i get out of the car and find that my legs have gone to sleep..
and the relation between the seat and the wheel oso sucks.. (for me la)
the steering wheel being non adjustable has made me re-adjust my steering style from 'hand over at the top to hand over at the bottom of the steering wheel..
meaning for long distance, in a more relaxed way, i do the shuffling technique with the hand over of left/right hand at the bottom of the wheel rather than on top of the wheel (cos the wheel sits so high)
doing the cross hand style on top of the wheel means that i have to lean forward from the seat and thats going to be uncomfortable in a long drive..

sekian maklumat yang di ranchangkan untuk sesi ini...
lol
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wow, you've chalked down a lot of mileage on your bezza.

here's what my bezza did

Ipoh - Sauk (kuala kangsar)

pg - KL

pg - Iph

pg - Tpg

Pg - genting

Pg - Fraser Hill (not gonna ply this route again on bezza, not nice)

pg - cameron highlands

Yeah all involved highway run until the nearest exit ot the B road.

on highway, cruising at legal speed limit, the fc is good.
on the B road, surprisingly it hits the sweet spot of this little 1329cc engines car so the fc is equally nice despeite having stop go traffic

overall, the fc is good for bezza, if fc is not good then peodua should terjun sungai, since the car is so light (980kg) with newer technology compare to its closest competitor.

ride and handling not perodua's strong point, so just leave it. no need to comment more either.
engine refinement is good (nak tau la, "toyota" NR engine wei)
body NVH, can't fight the closest competitor (another A segment sedan)
the seating position, i agree with what you said.
boot space, huge. can slam in a lot of stuffs. good.
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post Oct 29 2019, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(lionn @ Oct 25 2019, 05:01 PM)
Can I know what is this Anti Theft brackets? Is it the one that lock the brake paddle?
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Anti theft brackets are tiny mechanism they install on to the car door lock mechanisms to prevent thieves from using a ruler/stick to unlock your car from the window (like in the movies).
http://www.perodua.com.my/media/accessorie...p_catalogue.pdf
it's on page 5
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post Oct 29 2019, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 27 2019, 10:09 PM)
My friend's auto kelisa going up hill similar story. stubbornly stays in 2nd gear. low rpm despite near full throttle and shifting into 2. I couldn't help but feel like it could do with a 1st gear selection.

This post has been edited by dylan_chng: Oct 29 2019, 03:15 PM
jtan.pdr
post Oct 29 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(dylan_chng @ Oct 29 2019, 03:14 PM)
My friend's auto kelisa going up hill similar story. stubbornly stays in 2nd gear. low rpm despite near full throttle and shifting into 2. I couldn't help but feel like it could do with a 1st gear selection.
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yes.. it can do much more if we had a dedicated 1st gear selection...
5k rpm for a minute oso no problem...

in fact, i sometimes leave the gb in 3rd gear when on 110kmh to achieve higher rpm to blow out the carbon deposits...

old school way of doing it..

my proton saga 1st gen manual sees 5k rpm very frequently...
others who sat in my car always ask if i modded the enjin... no, stock standard but trained to rev freely.

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Oct 29 2019, 04:31 PM
jtan.pdr
post Oct 29 2019, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Oct 29 2019, 11:41 AM)
""wow, you've chalked down a lot of mileage on your bezza.""
so did u!! u traveller too huh? nice...
visit msia... any year, not just 2020... lol

""Pg - Fraser Hill (not gonna ply this route again on bezza, not nice)""
i was planning this!!! thanks for the heads up...

""pg - cameron highlands""
how was this trip?? can the car handle the slopes?
which route did u take? (there's 2)

""ride and handling not perodua's strong point, so just leave it. no need to comment more either.""
lol... agree here.. just work within its parameters and we'll get to where we want to go..

""body NVH, can't fight the closest competitor (another A segment sedan)""
lol.. here i agree too... let's not name names... nanti kena flame...
kekekkekek
i didnt do sound proofing to the roof, thot its only seasonal and wont drive so much under rain rite?
nowadays when raining, like driving under a corrugated zinc roof... lol
but actually hor, honda city nvh oso not good leh... neither is the CRV for that matter.. (both i've sat in)

but one thing i like is the bezza long suspension travel....
seldom bottom out the car..


dude... take care during these rainy season... read about the flash floods up there...
all the best wishes thru this wet season..

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This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Oct 29 2019, 04:15 PM
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post Oct 29 2019, 05:47 PM

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Can I ask what type of battery does all your Bezza comes with? mine is those that need to add water type. I have been driving for 1 year and just realise that.
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post Oct 29 2019, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(lionn @ Oct 29 2019, 05:47 PM)
Can I ask what type of battery does all your Bezza comes with? mine is those that need to add water type. I have been driving for 1 year and just realise that.
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Same..
P2 would have given u a bottle of distilled water to top up the battery..
Care not to over fill or the acid will spill over and destroy other parts.
If dunno, take car to a battery shop or ur mechanic and ask them to teach u..
Cant tell from texts but a hands on learning lesson..
And pay them la.. Cheap cheap solution.
But this battery seems good ones.
Lasted longer than some that I got in other cars..
Some lasted me just 1 year..

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Oct 29 2019, 06:52 PM
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post Oct 29 2019, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 29 2019, 06:50 PM)
Same..
P2 would have given u a bottle of distilled water to top up the battery..
Care not to over fill or the acid will spill over and destroy other parts.
If dunno, take car to a battery shop or ur mechanic and ask them to teach u..
Cant tell from texts but a hands on learning lesson..
And pay them la.. Cheap cheap solution.
But this battery seems good ones.
Lasted longer than some that I got in other cars..
Some lasted me just 1 year..
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I have been driving for 1 year and never done any refill cos I thought mine is those dry battery type. Guess I have to start top up soon.
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post Oct 30 2019, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 29 2019, 04:02 PM)

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fraser hill route will be fun to drive...... alone. not with passenger especially in the rear. How i wish my bezza has strut bar nd rear anti roll bar as it surely beef up the cornering performance by fair bit. and you need to be really gentle through the corners as you will upset the weight balance especially those zig zag corners (plenty of them here).

cameron, i took the simpang pulai route, it can handle the slopes, no worries. and again, 1329cc, you gonna need a golden right leg to make it work.

nvh wise, not only the roof but the overall body nvh wasn't that good. imagine the nvh is worse than a 13 years old myvi... i was like ohmy.gif
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post Oct 30 2019, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 29 2019, 06:50 PM)
Same..
P2 would have given u a bottle of distilled water to top up the battery..
Care not to over fill or the acid will spill over and destroy other parts.
If dunno, take car to a battery shop or ur mechanic and ask them to teach u..
Cant tell from texts but a hands on learning lesson..
And pay them la.. Cheap cheap solution.
But this battery seems good ones.
Lasted longer than some that I got in other cars..
Some lasted me just 1 year..
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perodua battery water is rm2.70 per bottle. or you just buy one outside and always make sure your battery is filled to the correct level.
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QUOTE(lionn @ Oct 29 2019, 05:47 PM)
Can I ask what type of battery does all your Bezza comes with? mine is those that need to add water type. I have been driving for 1 year and just realise that.
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speaking about battery, (touchwood) when your stock battery died? can drive for how long?

(touchwood again) mine been using more 2 years 2 weeks now.. still able to start the car/engine..
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post Oct 30 2019, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(lionn @ Oct 29 2019, 05:47 PM)
Can I ask what type of battery does all your Bezza comes with? mine is those that need to add water type. I have been driving for 1 year and just realise that.
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Yes, water type. Lasted me 1.5 yrs. Nowadays with "modern" cars, very hard to tell how "bad" a battery is.
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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Oct 29 2019, 06:50 PM)
Same..
P2 would have given u a bottle of distilled water to top up the battery..
Care not to over fill or the acid will spill over and destroy other parts.
If dunno, take car to a battery shop or ur mechanic and ask them to teach u..
Cant tell from texts but a hands on learning lesson..
And pay them la.. Cheap cheap solution.
But this battery seems good ones.
Lasted longer than some that I got in other cars..
Some lasted me just 1 year..
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My bezza actually did show signs of weak battery, just that I wasnt aware & it was kinda hit by surpise. Upon reaching 12 mths of age, one day I merely drove to shift into a different space after a hose-down wash.

After a few hrs wanted to drive the car, experienced hard cranking as in got cranking sound & sounded strong somemore but engine just refused to fire up. After a few tries, finally succeed but drove with a heavy heart thinking what hv gone wrong with a new car?

The next 6 mths showed no signs of weak starting & same problem surfaced. This time I took a multimeter to check on batt 1st thing b4 the morning cold start as that will give the most accurate reading. Indeed read abt 11 plus Voltage but I cant remember exactly at what point will be the make or break point if u guys know what I mean.

Fr then onwards, I make it a point to check on batt every 12 mths. The weak cranking syndrome is somehow not common on modern cars anymore & it seems we cannot apply this method as well anymore.

When we managed to crank start the engine succesfully, even the battery shop told us batt is healthy & has charging but what they cannot find out that it is already low it seems.

The incident did freak me out abit I confessed & since then I make it a point to check on the health of batt myself fr 12 mths onwards. The start stop city drive certainly didnt help much in recharging our batt I think but lotsa long distance driving would definitely make the battery last longer.
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post Oct 31 2019, 01:49 PM

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if you stay at landed property and you are not lazy, just buy a smart charger (e.g Bosch brand) and periodically charge your car battery. probably it helps to extend the life line of the battery by some extend.
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post Oct 31 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Oct 30 2019, 12:21 AM)
fraser hill route will be fun to drive...... alone. not with passenger especially in the rear. How i wish my bezza has strut bar nd rear anti roll bar as it surely beef up the cornering performance by fair bit. and you need to be really gentle through the corners as you will upset the weight balance especially those zig zag corners (plenty of them here).

cameron, i took the simpang pulai route, it can handle the slopes, no worries. and again, 1329cc, you gonna need a golden right leg to make it work.

nvh wise, not only the roof but the overall body nvh wasn't that good. imagine the nvh is worse than a 13 years old myvi... i was like  ohmy.gif
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""cameron, i took the simpang pulai route,""
did the car struggle like going up genting?


nvh
i did additional sound proffing for doors, firewall, floor, and boot...
thats where i spent my modding cash... by adding weight to the car... lol



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post Oct 31 2019, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Oct 30 2019, 05:11 PM)
speaking about battery, (touchwood) when your stock battery died? can drive for how long?

(touchwood again) mine been using more 2 years 2 weeks now.. still able to start the car/engine..
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my car is 2-3 months earlier than ur car..
touchwood that the battery is still ok...

i once had an AAM maint free battery that lasted 3 years..
that was when AAM was still a good company...
lets see if this batt can go the distance..
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QUOTE(BezzaPremiumX @ Oct 30 2019, 07:24 PM)
After a few hrs wanted to drive the car, experienced hard cranking as in got cranking sound & sounded strong somemore but engine just refused to fire up. After a few tries, finally succeed but drove with a heavy heart thinking what hv gone wrong with a new car?

The next 6 mths showed no signs of weak starting & same problem surfaced. This time I took a multimeter to check on batt 1st thing b4 the morning cold start as that will give the most accurate reading. Indeed read abt 11 plus Voltage but I cant remember exactly at what point will be the make or break point if u guys know what I mean.

The incident did freak me out abit I confessed & since then I make it a point to check on the health of batt myself fr 12 mths onwards. The start stop city drive certainly didnt help much in recharging our batt I think but lotsa long distance driving would definitely make the battery last longer.
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honestly, my experience with this kind eco car with start/stop button is limited...
me oso wondering abt its battery life .

thanks for sharing ur experience!!

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Oct 31 2019, 04:18 PM

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