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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2 Overclocking thread (V2), discuss our setup/overclocking issues

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post Aug 7 2007, 12:41 PM

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Anyone has seen this mobo in malaysia? It is known as Magic Pro MP-A2N5-Extreme II ( in hong kong ) or Jetway Hummer HA02 ( In taiwan , China). The price is less than 600 RMB. People call it as ' the lord of all am2 mobo'.

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more detail: http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/review.php?tid=813870

Let's see some insane results

super PI 1M 23.734s
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OC from 667 to 1400!!!
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=217529

of coz, the proc and ram also very good, if not cannot get results above laugh.gif

This post has been edited by dblooi: Aug 7 2007, 12:58 PM
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post Aug 7 2007, 12:42 PM

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Try google about ur motherboard...
From what I've read over other forum, some motherboard cannot go over 250HTT..
Swap ur SATA to other slot... Swap RAM position.. Then try again..
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post Aug 7 2007, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 7 2007, 12:42 PM)
Try google about ur motherboard...
From what I've read over other forum, some motherboard cannot go over 250HTT..
Swap ur SATA to other slot... Swap RAM position.. Then try again..
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if i dunno how to use google, i will nv know this mobo exist in this world laugh.gif

I'm asking whether anyone has seen it in malaysia b4 icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 7 2007, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 7 2007, 12:15 PM)
I do not see any problem for your overclock setting.
Here one suggestion for u.
Try to plug the ram to the nearest slot to the CPU. After that, try to oc again. cheers.gif

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wHY NEED TO PUT AS NEA AS POSSIBLE ? LAST TIME. other forumer tell me to put to the nearest slot... Say, near CPU, HOT !!

I m confused noe...
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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 7 2007, 12:58 PM)
wHY NEED TO PUT AS NEA AS POSSIBLE ? LAST TIME. other forumer tell me to put to the nearest slot... Say, near CPU, HOT !!

I m confused noe...
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The nearer to CPU, the shorter the circuit , the lower the resistance and interference . Hence the higher you can OC ur ram. laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2007, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Aug 6 2007, 01:38 PM)
NB HT width is the HT multiplier. HT link = HT multiplier X HTT.  Keep the HT link around 1000 when you OC it.


Added on August 6, 2007, 1:39 pm
the original question is just 1 post above mine  sweat.gif

btw, which windsor that you are using now?
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Mine is Windsor F2 (forgot whose bulk I bought from, can check my tradelist)..from my early attempts hard to get stable even at 2.5GHz..but that was with very little tweaking..increase vcore until 1.4v only..

Now the NF-M2 nview got a lot of bios updates already, maybe will get a better overclock..sooo many options drool.gif ..gonna make sure I leave none untouched..

Been thinking, lower power consuming processors are less vulnerable to electromigration since the current is lower. Hence if the power consumption is not too high even under overclocked conditions (A64 and C2D take up less than 150W even under extreme overclocking), power efficient processors can tolerate more of a voltage increase than less power efficient processors. I used to be very scared of increasing vcore more than 1.6V for 130nm and smaller processors because of the SNDS scare, but I'm guessing its because those intel netburst-based processors had massive currents (60->100A) running though the chip due to the high power consumption (150->200W at full overclock). I notice that even AMD's 130nm socket A processors could handle 1.8V for quite a long time without dying while a similar Pentium 4 would have died in less than a year even with water/phase cooling. Maybe I could find an excuse to do processor suicide runs for my applied physics final year project..only thing is how to present the proposal in a way that it'll be accepted..


Added on August 7, 2007, 1:14 pm
QUOTE(dblooi @ Aug 7 2007, 12:41 PM)
Anyone has seen this mobo in malaysia? It is known as Magic Pro MP-A2N5-Extreme II ( in hong kong ) or Jetway Hummer HA02 ( In taiwan , China). The price is less than 600 RMB. People call it as ' the lord of all am2 mobo'.

more detail: http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/review.php?tid=813870

Let's see some insane results

super PI 1M 23.734s
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OC from 667 to 1400!!!
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=217529

of coz, the proc and ram also very good, if not cannot get results above  laugh.gif
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He's using clockgen le...
I also can get the same results on my NF-M2 nview using clockgen (for some reason, bios won't allow)..only that I don't have the Windsor F3 and Micron D9..

This post has been edited by lohwenli: Aug 7 2007, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Aug 7 2007, 01:11 PM)

He's using clockgen le...
I also can get the same results on my NF-M2 nview using clockgen (for some reason, bios won't allow)..only that I don't have the Windsor F3 and Micron D9..
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What's wrong with clockgen? Issit by using clockgen the Pi result is consider fake and cheat? laugh.gif


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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Aug 7 2007, 01:11 PM)
He's using clockgen le...
I also can get the same results on my NF-M2 nview using clockgen (for some reason, bios won't allow)..only that I don't have the Windsor F3 and Micron D9..
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-deleted , misunderstood ur points notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 7 2007, 12:58 PM)
wHY NEED TO PUT AS NEA AS POSSIBLE ? LAST TIME. other forumer tell me to put to the nearest slot... Say, near CPU, HOT !!

I m confused noe...
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Nearest to CPU, oc more stable. This is what i gained from my last overclock with my Windsor 38.
Bro, you overclock, the processor and ram also hot what, right? smile.gif

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post Aug 7 2007, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Aug 7 2007, 11:43 AM)
My RAM not put near the CPU... already put as far as I can!!

What HT/ RAM divider ? I just set my RAM to 533Mhz in BIOS, though my RAM is 667Mhz. But, after OC, the RAM is 533 X 1.25 =667Mhz...

My Kingston RAM can not OC one, it will automatically restart computer if I put 667Mhz x 1.25 = 833Mhz

MY rig: Biostar Geforce 6100 AM2
              Kingston 667 1 GB  x 2
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ur mobo is GeForce 6100 not Tforce 6100?

n wad is ur vdimm?
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Aug 7 2007, 01:32 PM)
u use clockgen in windows. May i know how can it related to the bios? ( I meant how the bios won't allow you to use clockgen in windows  laugh.gif )

no offence, just feel curious  laugh.gif
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there's a mystery where htt is limited in bios, but pushable in windows using clockgen

and by the way.... the result above was because it's using F3 Windsor

F3 > G1

more F3 epic-ness.... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151746

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post Aug 7 2007, 05:41 PM

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hi it seem my rig cannot go anymore... i try to Oced 2850mhz... at Vcore 1.32v n Vdimm 1.8v{default}.... this time my pc suddently shut down.... its seem quite hot.... sweat.gif any suggestion...

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QUOTE(Elite_Anbu @ Aug 7 2007, 05:41 PM)
hi it seem my rig cannot go anymore... i try to Oced 2850mhz... at Vcore 1.32v n Vdimm 1.8v{default}.... this time my pc suddently shut down.... its seem quite hot.... sweat.gif  any suggestion...

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Try to add Vcore one more step. I think your processor not enough juice to run at 2850MHz. smile.gif
For the core temp, you cannot trust on it. Brisbane's DTS is spoilt. tongue.gif laugh.gif

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so using speedfan or everest, we cannot get true reading of brisby core temp? me using everest, now the temp is 55
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QUOTE(slash @ Aug 7 2007, 05:57 PM)
so using speedfan or everest, we cannot get true reading of brisby core temp? me using everest, now the temp is 55
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Yup...AMD claimed that the Brisby's DTS is spoilt.
The only temperature i depend on is the CPU Temp, not Core Temp.

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oh dts is for the seperate cores. i never look at that anyway. the readings are 16 and 14 degrees, which is impossible in my room. haha


Added on August 7, 2007, 6:58 pmto apply thermal paste, do u just put a tiny size in the middle, then fix the heatsink in?
LOL, i didnt know that was the way. I did the old sch method, spread it over the heatspeader. Should I reapply the paste?

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 7 2007, 02:56 PM)
there's a mystery where htt is limited in bios, but pushable in windows using clockgen

and by the way.... the result above was because it's using F3 Windsor

F3 > G1

more F3 epic-ness.... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151746
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Just read again lohwenli's post, found that i've misunderstood his points. I thought he was saying that bios won't allow him to use clockgen in windows laugh.gif

big appology to lohwenli notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 7 2007, 02:56 PM)
there's a mystery where htt is limited in bios, but pushable in windows using clockgen

and by the way.... the result above was because it's using F3 Windsor

F3 > G1

more F3 epic-ness.... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=151746
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vcore 1.3v, vdimm 2.0. able to get 2.8ghz. orthos for 30min no problem. gonna try 3ghz tmr.

cpuz shows divider as /7. How come everest shows as /8 ?
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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:41 PM)
ur mobo is GeForce 6100 not Tforce 6100?

n wad is ur vdimm?
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Ya, Geforce !! My place did not sell Tforce 6100

How much Geforce can clock with Brisbane 3600 ??

What is vdimm ?? Not too sure, let me check first...

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