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post Sep 6 2020, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(eikozai @ Sep 6 2020, 01:16 PM)
Tyre don't affect warranty.
I'm using 180/60R15 now and still claimed new set of absorbers.

As long as you don't change the rim, then its good.
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Ah great! Thanks bro. Then probably I’ll change to 185/60. Yeah, not planning to change the rims.
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post Sep 6 2020, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Sep 6 2020, 12:46 PM)
Wanna check on this before I change my tires. Driving E with 175/65/15 rubbers and it’s time to change away from the crappy GT3. Most of the tires I want are are not in this size and the nearest would be 185/60.

Since Honda is pretty arse in warranty claims, I’m pretty sure changing to 185/60 would be a basis for them to void the warranty on suspension related items right? Anyone has any experience? The only 175/65 ok-ish rubber that I could think of is XM2+ which I’m not a fan of.
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I was having same dilemma as you when I change my tyres last month, XM2+ 185/60 was quite a lot cheaper than stock size 175/65 and originally I wanted 185 but one of the tyre sellers said it could void warranty and he was reluctant to sell me this size. This hesitance alarmed me so in the end I bit the bullet and shoot for 175/65 XM2+ from another seller. You could also try Conti CC6 which has 175/65 too.
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QUOTE(arclynmen @ Sep 5 2020, 09:32 PM)
My gm6 approaching 6 years soon. Recently there's a jerk when accelerating at low rpm. Especially when the car just started and I am starting to move. Feels ok on first few seconds then there's a jerk like it suddenly lose power to move. Anyone experienced this?
Changed the fuel filter 1 year ago. Spark plug yet to change. Mileage only 50k.
Suspecting spark plug or fuel pump. Any guidance sifu?
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Had this jerking issue as well... SC suspected the throttle valve calibration and reset it, but issue still recurred.
The weird thing is, this jerking happened when I used ron97... After changing to ron95, no longer jerks.

I would suspect spark plug but my car is rather quite new with around 28k mileage... So I could only keep checking and test
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post Sep 6 2020, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 6 2020, 01:41 PM)
I was having same dilemma as you when I change my tyres last month, XM2+ 185/60 was quite a lot cheaper than stock size 175/65 and originally I wanted 185 but one of the tyre sellers said it could void warranty and he was reluctant to sell me this size. This hesitance alarmed me so in the end I bit the bullet and shoot for 175/65 XM2+ from another seller. You could also try Conti CC6 which has 175/65 too.
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I don't mind paying the price diff, but it's more of warranty concern for me. But then again, my car just past 3 years mark, if any suspension/absorber related issues occur, high chances HM will pin it down to wear and tear already.
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post Sep 6 2020, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 5 2020, 12:52 AM)
Not sure, I suspect it could be that ABS module is located nearest to driver unlike other models, which makes the sound more prominent.

I am quite certain they will charge you labour cost for inspection if they had to bring into the work bay. However I had gotten accident repair assessment and quotation at no extra cost before. YMMV.
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How come you so certain while you didnt get charge for quote during your accident? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 6 2020, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(wat de....?! @ Sep 6 2020, 01:56 PM)
Had this jerking issue as well... SC suspected the throttle valve calibration and reset it, but issue still recurred.
The weird thing is, this jerking happened when I used ron97... After changing to ron95, no longer jerks.

I would suspect spark plug but my car is rather quite new with around 28k mileage... So I could only keep checking and test
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If urs is quite new, it might be related to the fuel pump recall issue. Just a guess here. Some forumers were having issues with Shell RON97 and they suspected is fuel problem (I don't have that so far, been using it since after MCO). Thats before the recall came up so it might be related to that instead.
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post Sep 6 2020, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(tifosi @ Sep 6 2020, 04:18 PM)
I don't mind paying the price diff, but it's more of warranty concern for me. But then again, my car just past 3 years mark, if any suspension/absorber related issues occur, high chances HM will pin it down to wear and tear already.
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I had warranty claimed my rear suspension on 2nd year ownership and now 1 year later I'm trying find time to go back and get it replaced again under warranty. Some parts can be attributed to wear & tear but suspension should be under the 5 year warranty.

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Sep 6 2020, 04:57 PM)
How come you so certain while you didnt get charge for quote during your accident? biggrin.gif
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AFAIK anytime the car goes into workbay, they will count labour hours used (even warranty claim replacement got labour hours cost included in the docket but FOC), as for my accident quote it was done by SA at the SC parking lot. Could it just be a coincidence my SA didn't cost in his fees, i don't know.

Keep in mind the pomen in SC don't work for free, an hour to inspect ur car meant an hour lost servicing another car who is paying. Of course they will charge you labour. I mean, its up to you, you can try to get it diagnosed for free.

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post Sep 6 2020, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 6 2020, 01:04 PM)
Honda service manual did say to replace sparkplugs every 100,000km or 5 years whichever comes first. Ur car ady went 6 years so.... yeah. You could bring it to ur pomen and ask him check on the contact pins of the plugs if still in good condition or not or corrosion have set in due to age.
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Yeah I didn't bother to change it on my last service. There was no such issue back then. And since it was my last service with Honda, decided to just skip it and change elsewhere next time. Lol.

QUOTE(wat de....?! @ Sep 6 2020, 01:56 PM)
Had this jerking issue as well... SC suspected the throttle valve calibration and reset it, but issue still recurred.
The weird thing is, this jerking happened when I used ron97... After changing to ron95, no longer jerks.

I would suspect spark plug but my car is rather quite new with around 28k mileage... So I could only keep checking and test
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Also during low rpm right? When I sped, I don't have this jerk issue.
I just clean up my throttle body with check my air filter. Air filter wasn't really that dirty. Going to test my car for few more days
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QUOTE(arclynmen @ Sep 6 2020, 12:51 AM)
iridium spark plug should be able to work up to 100k mileage no?
i actually plan to change at 80k though due to my low mileage
Seems like same symptom as mine.
I'll check the air filter tomorrow. Probably too dirty blocking the air flow.
But how come do throttle body clean need to reset ecu?
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Only reset ECU when the rpm not stable and high.....the reason why rpm not stable and high... i need google first...lol

Even the plug can use up to 80k to 100k.....but efficiency sure will drop...
yesterday i read an article about NGK plug.... laser iridium (stock) < iridium max.... in term of efficiency, mileage should be the same.
Ngk Iriway series is more for performance and tuned engine.... mileage lesser than above iridium.

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post Sep 6 2020, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 6 2020, 06:09 PM)
I had warranty claimed my rear suspension on 2nd year ownership and now 1 year later I'm trying find time to go back and get it replaced again under warranty. Some parts can be attributed to wear & tear but suspension should be under the 5 year warranty.
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Sifu,

Why i noticed kept on mentioning absorber changed and claim warranty.

Honda city absorber easy to spoil meh?
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 6 2020, 06:01 PM)
If urs is quite new, it might be related to the fuel pump recall issue. Just a guess here. Some forumers were having issues with Shell RON97 and they suspected is fuel problem (I don't have that so far, been using it since after MCO). Thats before the recall came up so it might be related to that instead.
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Checked with SC during service in July, not enlisted in affected units. Anyway gotta keep checking in case HM updated the list.

As for fuel, I've only used BHP & Caltex, be it Ron97 or Ron95. Recently used Ron97 during MCO as it was cheap. Now back to Ron95.
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post Sep 6 2020, 08:26 PM

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Btw, anyone used yokohama v701 tyres for their city?
how the noise produce by yokohoma v701 compare to michilin ps3 ?
which one are noisier
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QUOTE(arclynmen @ Sep 6 2020, 07:40 PM)
Also during low rpm right? When I sped, I don't have this jerk issue.
I just clean up my throttle body with check my air filter. Air filter wasn't really that dirty. Going to test my car for few more days
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Yes low rpm and around 20 kph... Above that car/engine is smooth.
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post Sep 6 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Sep 6 2020, 06:15 PM)
AFAIK anytime the car goes into workbay, they will count labour hours used (even warranty claim replacement got labour hours cost included in the docket but FOC), as for my accident quote it was done by SA at the SC parking lot. Could it just be a coincidence my SA didn't cost in his fees, i don't know.

Keep in mind the pomen in SC don't work for free, an hour to inspect ur car meant an hour lost servicing another car who is paying. Of course they will charge you labour. I mean, its up to you, you can try to get it diagnosed for free.
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The warranty claim labour charges is for the charges that they fix/install/assemble.
Under warranty period i did visit a few time but they failed to diagnose my issue and no charges.
Foreman SC work according to monthly wages, SC charges us for service on hour basis. But checking and quote i don't there is possibility FOC. Just like if you want to renovate house, someone come to see and check and design and quote without charges if you dont buy from them. Sometimes you go foreman shop, and ask them to check they normally dont charge if no any hardwork performed. My concern to go SC as i think they might more experience since they only do honda car.
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post Sep 7 2020, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mls_gamer @ Sep 5 2020, 10:15 PM)
My car 6 year and 5 month old... before MCO time...  my car also jerking in low rpm especially when start to move when traffic light turn to green from red...
ended up i go do throttle body clean...after done my throttle body clean... rpm go too high.....problem solve after i factory reset ecu.
For your case.... try change spark plug first....
Fuel pump i not sure.. bcos mine still not yet change, my mileage 69K+ KM.
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how to diy factory reset ECU ? pls share ya ....i cleaned my throttle body last week also ... sprayed almost half can 250ml into it and ended up start for 6x ....lazy to ask someone to press the accelerator while spraying it.

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Found

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/procedur...-to-2017/638363

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Sep 7 2020, 11:14 AM)
how to diy factory reset ECU ? pls share ya ....i cleaned my throttle body last week also ... sprayed almost half can 250ml into it and ended up start for 6x ....lazy to ask someone to press the accelerator while spraying it.

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Found

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/procedur...-to-2017/638363
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Though i dont need to do this at the moment, but saw the link you posted, dont understand the step 3 mention in that link leh...

"Step-3: Turn off the car remove the key (q1) and restart it again (q2). Turn on the car again (q3) and stable the RPM at exactly 2000 for 10 seconds and turn off the car and remove the key (q4)."

q1: remove key? its keyless leh...does it mean bring the remote(+key) far far till undetectable by car?
q2: restart without key (remote)? or press start button without stepping on brake? or what?
q3: not even sure abt q2 leh
q4: same as q1

confuse....
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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Sep 7 2020, 11:14 AM)
how to diy factory reset ECU ? pls share ya ....i cleaned my throttle body last week also ... sprayed almost half can 250ml into it and ended up start for 6x ....lazy to ask someone to press the accelerator while spraying it.

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Found

https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/t/procedur...-to-2017/638363
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as I know newer honda is unable to reset the ecu with this method, my car just service throttle body and reset the throttle plate position and reset ecu too at SC when 100k km major service, now the car run smoothly...
when at millage 40k km I tried to clean the throttle body myself but the car become weird and jerk, tried to disconnect battery to reset the ecu but cant help...
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QUOTE(TrollNoob @ Sep 6 2020, 08:19 PM)
Sifu,

Why i noticed kept on mentioning absorber changed and claim warranty.

Honda city absorber easy to spoil meh?
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Easy spoil? Not sure, but even my SA admitted its a lot more common and showed me the stacks of replaced rear suspensions for City, HRV, Civic. Somehow its more common with FL than with PreFL City. If urs haven't sound yet, consider yourself to be the lucky ones.

P.S Mine is not absorber but the torsion beam.

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Sep 6 2020, 10:50 PM)
The warranty claim labour charges is for the charges that they fix/install/assemble.
Under warranty period i did visit a few time but they failed to diagnose my issue and no charges.
Foreman SC work according to monthly wages, SC charges us for service on hour basis. But checking and quote i don't there is possibility FOC. Just like if you want to renovate house, someone come to see and check and design and quote without charges if you dont buy from them. Sometimes you go foreman shop, and ask them to check they normally dont charge if no any hardwork performed. My concern to go SC as i think they might more experience since they only do honda car.
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Oh i see. Perhaps ur SC more linient than mine. Mine one always very busy, moreso walk in service, I can see their workbay still filled with cars right up from morning to closing time so perhaps mine have little time doing something else.

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