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post Sep 17 2018, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 17 2018, 02:06 AM)
to me, not an concern since i have no other choice but iphone.  tongue.gif
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I have both the IPhone X and Oneplus 5t. But in the real world speedtest comparison, the Oneplus 5t still wins over the IPhone X.



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QUOTE(ahwang12321 @ Sep 17 2018, 07:56 AM)
Hi guys
Can recommend me which iPhone to buy

No matter hw many times I change to Android, I still prefer iPhone..I think because of app quality..also tired with android bugs..phone will slow/lag after a year plus..using pixel 2 now.. still fast but so many problem with the phone..screen blue tint prob is still ok for me..but then come another bug..latest is no notification sound which is really annoying..only advantage of android is their camera and fast charging

Last highest model iPhone I used ip7 plus.. reason selling.. too huge.I think those bezel really big make it uncomfortable but then when I change to iphone se I feel like toy phone so small, change to 6s ..feels ok but the battery really sucks after iOS 11 .other reason is the Touch ID didn’t work that well for me but I think my finger hard to register..even pixel 2 also sometime not work.. only Samsung phone works well with my finger for some weird reason
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If you think iPhone 7plus is too huge, then u should opt for an iPhone x or xs...smaller phone size with reasonably nice screen size...
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post Sep 17 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 17 2018, 09:13 AM)
I have both the IPhone X and Oneplus 5t. But in the real world speedtest comparison, the Oneplus 5t still wins over the IPhone X.


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i have only iphones and 'will' only have iphones so for myself I do no need to do any comparison. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ahwang12321 @ Sep 17 2018, 07:56 AM)
Hi guys
Can recommend me which iPhone to buy

No matter hw many times I change to Android, I still prefer iPhone..I think because of app quality..also tired with android bugs..phone will slow/lag after a year plus..using pixel 2 now.. still fast but so many problem with the phone..screen blue tint prob is still ok for me..but then come another bug..latest is no notification sound which is really annoying..only advantage of android is their camera and fast charging

Last highest model iPhone I used ip7 plus.. reason selling.. too huge.I think those bezel really big make it uncomfortable but then when I change to iphone se I feel like toy phone so small, change to 6s ..feels ok but the battery really sucks after iOS 11 .other reason is the Touch ID didn’t work that well for me but I think my finger hard to register..even pixel 2 also sometime not work.. only Samsung phone works well with my finger for some weird reason
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I have a similar problem. At the moment, it’s Best to go for iPhone 8 or X due to the heavy price reduction. Else wait for the XR or the Xs which is due to arrive in mid Oct.

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post Sep 17 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(sramesh @ Sep 17 2018, 10:38 AM)
I have a similar problem. At the moment, it’s Best to go for iPhone 8 or X due to the heavy price reduction. Else wait for the XR or the Xs which is due to arrive in mid Oct.
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the price difference between iphone 8 and iphone XR is not significant. it is more worth it to go for XR due to the better hardware and bigger screen.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 17 2018, 10:21 AM)
i have only iphones and 'will' only have iphones so for myself I do no need to do any comparison.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 16 2018, 10:12 PM)
yes, exactly. many just simply compare on paper spec, but apple actually uses much better hardware. like the ssd on macbook pro, it is insanely faster than any ssd that can be found on any other windows laptop.
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Nah... not so much on comparing the both, but rather myth busting. tongue.gif

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post Sep 17 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 17 2018, 10:47 AM)
the price difference between iphone 8 and iphone XR is not significant. it is more worth it to go for XR due to the better hardware and bigger screen.
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The iPhone 8 RRP is 2899 and Plus version 3299. IMHO The XR will be priced much higher...at least 4K++.
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 17 2018, 09:13 AM)
I have both the IPhone X and Oneplus 5t. But in the real world speedtest comparison, the Oneplus 5t still wins over the IPhone X.


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Cannot compare bro... The apple ecosystem is far ahead of Android
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post Sep 17 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ahwang12321 @ Sep 17 2018, 07:56 AM)
Hi guys
Can recommend me which iPhone to buy

No matter hw many times I change to Android, I still prefer iPhone..I think because of app quality..also tired with android bugs..phone will slow/lag after a year plus..using pixel 2 now.. still fast but so many problem with the phone..screen blue tint prob is still ok for me..but then come another bug..latest is no notification sound which is really annoying..only advantage of android is their camera and fast charging

Last highest model iPhone I used ip7 plus.. reason selling.. too huge.I think those bezel really big make it uncomfortable but then when I change to iphone se I feel like toy phone so small, change to 6s ..feels ok but the battery really sucks after iOS 11 .other reason is the Touch ID didn’t work that well for me but I think my finger hard to register..even pixel 2 also sometime not work.. only Samsung phone works well with my finger for some weird reason
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Surprised to read about your problems with Pixel 2, since it had rave reviews. Anyways, it is the one phone I will never try as long as Google doesn't make it official here.

I'd probably go for a heavily discounted iPhone X now if I were you, but if you can wait, then why not wait and check out the Xs and Xr when it launches here.
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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Sep 17 2018, 01:32 PM)
Cannot compare bro... The apple ecosystem is far ahead of Android
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How can it be far ahead of android when it is slower than android? hmm.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway, enough of this. Lets get back to the discussion of the Iphone Xs, Xs Max. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(attw @ Sep 17 2018, 02:31 PM)
Surprised to read about your problems with Pixel 2, since it had rave reviews. Anyways, it is the one phone I will never try as long as Google doesn't make it official here.

I'd probably go for a heavily discounted iPhone X now if I were you, but if you can wait, then why not wait and check out the Xs and Xr when it launches here.
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Bro... Pixel 2 memang a lot of issues bro. Tak boleh pakai also. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sramesh @ Sep 17 2018, 11:47 AM)
The iPhone 8 RRP is 2899 and Plus version 3299. IMHO The XR will be priced much higher...at least 4K++.
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I think the base XR will go for RM3699 or RM3799 here, won't make sense to go above RM4000, based on the world wide pricing of the Xr announced in the first wave countries so far.

QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 17 2018, 02:34 PM)
Bro... Pixel 2 memang a lot of issues bro. Tak boleh pakai also.  laugh.gif
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Is it? Really curious. Anyways, no more trying Huaweis and Samsungs for me next year. Don't tag me with anymore Qoo10 deals ya, hahaha...
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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 17 2018, 12:03 AM)
The IPhone Xs and Xs Max is not running on Ufs 3.0. So how better is Apple's hardware particularly on storage on the XS and Xs Max?
For your info,

Samsung is bringing Ufs 3.0 to the S10/ S10+
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In my previous comment, I included "any" phone that utilize these 2 main components, will pay a premium price. Even Iphone X is using Toshiba 64gb storage and they are expansive. You cannot imply iphone cheap hardware justifies the price. Iphone X example costs $370 and the OLED screen alone is 1/3 of the price $110.

So as a company who will support you for the next 5 years in OS update, buttery smooth in the end user experience, a must-optimized software development, a top notch CPU which beats others SD and exynos in better margin. Apple for sure will sell them in premium.


I wont bother buying an Iphone since I always sell them back after year a and get at minimum 70%-80% of the purchased value.


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QUOTE(afiqsabri @ Sep 17 2018, 02:49 PM)
In my previous comment, I included "any" phone that utilize these 2 main components, will pay a premium price. Even Iphone X is using Toshiba 64gb storage and they are expansive. You cannot imply iphone cheap hardware justifies the price. Iphone X example costs $370 and the OLED screen alone is 1/3 of the price $110.

So as a company who will support you for the next 5 years in OS update, buttery smooth in the end user experience, a must-optimized software development, a top notch CPU which beats others SD and exynos in better margin. Apple for sure will sell them in premium.
I wont bother buying an Iphone since I always sell them back after year a and get at minimum 70%-80% of the purchased value.
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Just as a matter of discussion, how can you claim above when there is no fact to suggest so? Have you watched the video i posted in the post above? nod.gif

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post Sep 17 2018, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Sep 17 2018, 03:08 PM)
Just as a matter of discussion, how can you claim above when there is no fact to suggest so? Have you watched the video i posted in the post above? nod.gif
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I purchased top flagship android phone (which currently Note 9) every single year and I changed my iphone every year.

IOS Update

Iphone 5S (9/2013) will get the IOS 12, while S7 Edge (6/2016) might not be getting android Pie

CPU

A11 beats SD 845 in every corner...imagine how A12 can do.

Touch

You will have 120hz touch input which the note 9 wont have

IOS smoothness

this is a bit subjective, but person who use both phone can experiences the differences

If you consider best for bucks, than iphone will be out this league, they are not meant for it.
If you consider long term use with years of support, then Iphone ftw.


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QUOTE(afiqsabri @ Sep 17 2018, 03:27 PM)
I purchased top flagship android phone (which currently Note 9) every single year and I changed my iphone every year.

IOS Update

Iphone 5S (9/2013) will get the IOS 12, while S7 Edge (6/2016) might not be getting android Pie

CPU

A11 beats SD 845 in every corner...imagine how A12 can do.

Touch

You will have 120hz touch input which the note 9 wont have

IOS smoothness

this is a bit subjective, but person who use both phone can experiences the differences

If you consider best for bucks, than iphone will be out this league, they are not meant for it.
If you consider long term use with years of support, then Iphone ftw.
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This would be a never ending argument. Apple will claim it has a better chipset and android will claim vice versa. Point is, Im not here to proof which is better or who pawns who. Im here just to point out that modern day androids will not be outperformed by IOS compared to yesteryears. What you have claimed above would be true, if it was 3-4 years ago but the same could not be said for now. nod.gif

And for the ever increasing price of Apple Iphones, I would really like to see how it would remain competitive in the smartphone market. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(afiqsabri @ Sep 17 2018, 03:27 PM)
I purchased top flagship android phone (which currently Note 9) every single year and I changed my iphone every year.

IOS Update

Iphone 5S (9/2013) will get the IOS 12, while S7 Edge (6/2016) might not be getting android Pie

CPU

A11 beats SD 845 in every corner...imagine how A12 can do.

Touch

You will have 120hz touch input which the note 9 wont have

IOS smoothness

this is a bit subjective, but person who use both phone can experiences the differences

If you consider best for bucks, than iphone will be out this league, they are not meant for it.
If you consider long term use with years of support, then Iphone ftw.
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5s with ios 12? Is it still relevant? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(afiqsabri @ Sep 16 2018, 09:34 PM)
they are 2 component in ANY phone that made them expensive, the storage type and screen.
I would say the combination of Super AMOLED + UFS 3.0 Storage..
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Apple did not use UFS. They use NVME Pcie for their internal storage. Also Apple having absolute control on the software and hardware have always been a bonus. This is why they trail-blazed the competition in internal storage.

QUOTE(westlife @ Sep 16 2018, 10:12 PM)
yes, exactly. many just simply compare on paper spec, but apple actually uses much better hardware. like the ssd on macbook pro, it is insanely faster than any ssd that can be found on any other windows laptop.
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The good news is Apple adapted their SSD controller used on the macbook pro and optimized it for their iPhone. This is why u have insanely superior, never seen before internal storage speeds on a phone.
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Sep 17 2018, 04:39 PM)
Apple did not use UFS. They use NVME Pcie for their internal storage. Also Apple having absolute control on the software and hardware have always been a bonus. This is why they trail-blazed the competition in internal storage.
The good news is Apple adapted their SSD controller used on the macbook pro and optimized it for their iPhone. This is why u have insanely superior, never seen before internal storage speeds on a phone.
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We'll know more after this week... all the tear down videos will start cropping up...

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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Sep 17 2018, 04:39 PM)
Apple did not use UFS. They use NVME Pcie for their internal storage. Also Apple having absolute control on the software and hardware have always been a bonus. This is why they trail-blazed the competition in internal storage.
The good news is Apple adapted their SSD controller used on the macbook pro and optimized it for their iPhone. This is why u have insanely superior, never seen before internal storage speeds on a phone.
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Yes, I also believe that Apple iPhone internal ssd should be fastest.

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