Dunno about long term use of Markus. Most say good but the price is half of 1k.
The one I am using currently is Ikea Millberget: https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/millberget-swi...black-50339414/
@RM300 or so. Bought around 280 iirc.
Quite nice. Been using it for more than a year now, and it's alright for me to sit on it for the whole day if I've got nothing to do. The back is fairly tall enough that I could rest my head on it also. Thigh support is alright for me, and it's wide enough to sit cross-legged. The downside is its full leather, so on hot day I'll put a seperate lumbar mesh support so that my back won't all touch the leather and has some room to breath. For me berbaloi la, as my previous chair was those chair you see at majlis ones.

There's also the cheaper one I tried: https://www.ikea.com/my/en/p/renberget-swiv...black-60339418/
. It's okay, the lumbar support is a bit straight than I hoped and the arms doesn't have padding.

Still I think for chairs better go try physical.

Yeh, I didn't use the shope pay , i didn't know the small misguide on fix amount statement is so sentimental.Normal for buyer like me who just read the shope help guide easily to get misunderstand.I apologize to you. That is why someone like this forum member can re guide some mistaken by some member like me by you.

As for full body scan it's true, i did mention it's not appropriate especially for a girl or ladies , lucky not include lower part of the body/leg.The scan needed on withdraw and upgrade to premium account as you mention.
Tell me if they change their system again in t&c if only head scan rather than body scan ? but as I read on their help page it require body scan on upgrade premium.

https://shopee-help.force.com/my/s/article/...-I-verify-my-IC
edited : On the withdraw ,did they change their t&c help page again ? it updated this year 8 of Jan.I didn't see it require body or head scan anymore.Need someone help to verify withdraw no need body scan. https://help.shopee.com.my/my/s/article/How...my-bank-account

The daily limit , hellsphinx user claim it is RM200. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4775281 .Anyone can verify it's not Rm200 limit ?
btw , when did I compare the daily limit from shope Indonesia daily limit ?

As for android version , why do this message appear ? On a samsung phone.Do they have different set of t&c on what phone to use since you are using huawei ? Phone got different t&c ? Samsung vs Huawei ?


I also get confuse , what you claim Android 6.0 can function well with shope pay with no daily limit rm200 but at the help page it said daily limit purchase is Rm200 for android 6.0.
https://help.shopee.com.my/my/s/article/Is-...using-ShopeePay
t&c change again ?

I repeat , I am confuse on shope pay.I hope someone can clear out the question here.I think you are mistaken by my question interpreted to sabotage by defame shope pay.It looks like their T&C keep changing until everything came to misleading.

There are only 2 queries I am currently in question but whether they change the t&c today , I don't know.One is body scan and not following ekyc .Secondly shope never claim on how the Data Protection Act on our information IC , CC , bank account is keep secure by 3rd party since shope is a large and well establish ecommerce online.
If you understand what i mean , i google search this news too on data leak.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...data-protection
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...for-10-million/

Sorry , I hope I didn't offended you , I think i need to mark some question on my post again.

talking about me ? , since when i mention on against shope pay.Actually , I don't know how to describe a half body holding an IC to take a selfies of yourself called so I just name it "body Scan".Do you know a better phase to describe holding and IC and selfies ? . Ekyc on our face vs Holding IC and selfie your body is different as I know.Correct me if I am wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmBGr5DPmoQ you can browse through the video.

Maybe in future there will be something scan like this but as for now , i didn't see any of other apps require the scan like shope pay.I don't know whether it consider as security or privacy gathering since shope is own by China Tencent , wechat.You know what i mean.

The conflict here is , if Security to identified a real personal with varies method scan , why does there are so much of fake seller still allow selling without getting caught even with numerous report ?

Obviously I am doubt on which are their main concern.As for me , there are too many confusion on shope pay where i hope someone will beware of the information on those varies scan.

You used to accuse Shopee's full body scan, no scan no shoeepay, daily limit RM200, blah blah blah...

The root cause, you cannot enter Shoeepay caused by lower android version, then create some fabulous accuses.

Why don't get a new phone and keep you mouth shut? Please don't be a freak.

I'm a silent user, frequently notice a si beruk yell here yell there with all fake accuses.

I have to voice up something about Shopeepay. It make payment promptly and easier, no more stuck at bank payment or refund.

I enjoy the Shopeepay without any scan. I never withdraw $$ as I am a buyer, not seller.

GG. died. rm1 only.

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Jan 15 2020, 12:20 PM

Yeh, another win for 121 coins

kantoi last q... was choosing between A or C.

Agree with you.

My >50% transactions are paid using ShopeePay. So rewarding (coin cashback) and convenient (no need OTP), and given extra free-shipping-vouchers (RM40) for buying Shopee Mall items.

Sama. Kantoi Q8.

Main atas LRT. Gerabak goyang. Susah naik lihat betul-betul.

Tikam C. Kantoi.

Same, but 90% of my purchases

so, yeah ! usually i use CC more than Shopee Pay. with the coupon offered, they encourage you to use Shopee Pay.
so when i topup and proceed to pay, i got this msg



of course, then i went to have a little chat with CS and found out i cant proceed as i was on Android 6.



just want to verify if this is indeed BNM requirement.

Indeed ,you mention already shope pay premium and withdraw require body scan and IC.This is correct.
I never accuse no scan no shope pay.I am well aware months ago before 11.11 , basic shope pay doesn't need to scan for IC and face.You even remind me that time.
Maybe I never add the word premium or withdraw which I somehow delivery the wrong message as "accuse".

As for daily limit on shope pay did display on the help site. https://help.shopee.com.my/my/s/article/Is-...using-ShopeePay
Thanks for boygenetic also help us all to verify asking CS about it which I did before.
I wonder why you can pass though shope pay RM200 limit on your android 6.0 huawei p lite ? Can share the trick to bypass shope apps detection ? I think it will benefits everyone too.

Again , you make an assumption of an accuse to me about cannot enter shope pay. .The picture I provide regrading on lower android version is not acceptable by shope pay because you didn't believe in me mentioning lower android version can't use shope pay saying it's BNM.Nothing more than that.

As for a new phone , I did have a phone running 9.0 pie.It works well with shope pay.

I just point out something that shope pay system which have limitation and keep hiding and changing their t&c by not telling or information buyer for changes.
So what other t&c Bank Negara require ? I don't know since they never mention it until we encounter and ask the CS.
The following-
BNM - doesn't allow lower Android Phone run shope pay
BNM - Limit shope pay rm200 for lower android phone
BNM - Require a half person scan holding IC on premium upgrade
I don't wanted to comment much since i didn't ask bnm , I leave someone to confirm whether it is shope t&c or bnm really require the standard of Security.

I think I was too aggressive pointing out the requirement for shope pay.I hereby those who get offended my post in sincerely apologize.

I admit I make a mistake comment on shope pay fix limit.I also apologize.You no need to call me like this.

btw , shope pay is much easier since less user use but when it gets a lot of people using may still have stuck issue.Just like T&G connection time out and offline https://www.lowyat.net/2020/203839/e-tunai-...nal-rm30-perks/ once it's on the peak.

You never withdraw before ? I though you did before commenting need the IC scan and etc ? You mean there is a different on seller withdraw and buyer withdraw ?

Technically older OS are prone to have more bugs and securities issues.
So BNM says you show make sure your wallet is always up to date with security or face harsh penalty, so they have to stop lower versions OS on their app.
So u have an old phone? Its your problem mate.

Btw even bank apps (and recently the infamous Whatsapp for older IOS) does that (disallowing old OS) why dont u go make noise?

okok, calm down everyone

I've tried sitting on ikea Markus chair before. I don't like it at all (I know many love it). I don't like most of the chairs that are designed for tall or fat people because I'm small size. I need chair with adjustable seat pan depth. Kinda hard to find.

Buying yeos or oranges all shipped cost lot money even with free shipping. I guess I need to do it physical shops no online shopping.

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