so I am stuck with the metal mouth...*sob*

Hmm.... yup. But its okla. There are a lot of ppl still choose the metal system over ceramic system ma.
Which doctor/ clinic u went to? and how much is ur treatment?

Dr Ling & Partners Dental Surgeon at Aman Suria. RM5000 for Damon 3. 50% deposit. The balance can be monthly installment, or one shot in the end of the treatment. Very flexible.

I'm using damon 3. I'm not using innovation C bcoz doctor said ceramic gives slightly slower result. my main concern is fast results. that's y i'd rather choose metal damon 3.

doctor said, for metal, damon 3 and innovation c give same results. as for ceramic, have to go for innovation c.

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Added on July 23, 2009, 5:55 pmso cheap? where's aman suria btw? mine is RM6k for damon 3.

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Added on July 23, 2009, 6:00 pmmy ortho advice me to extract my wisdom tooth. he said it will express up my progress and definitely make my face smaller. however, he quoated me RM500 to extract a lower wisdom tooth. i'm still considering... any cheaper place to get wisdom tooth extracted?

This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jul 23 2009, 06:00 PM

Karyn, which doctor did you go to? I'm planning to get my wisdom teeth extracted also, all 4 of them if possible, even though doctor said it's optional. Just felt that it will provide more jaw space for my teeth. Rm 500 is a lot of money..

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Added on July 23, 2009, 9:59 pmNikki, you mentioned that you could see results after 2 months? I can see a bit of results on my left side, but right side not so much. For our innovation c, is it normal that we could feel the tightness once a while, cus i haven't had any pain or sensation for a few weeks already, but suddenly this week, i could feel that my right side is getting tighter and upon touching the teeth, i could feel intense pain. Is it normal?

This post has been edited by mrchildren: Jul 23 2009, 09:59 PM

I'm going to Dr. How at Bangsar. He said normal price for extracted wisdom at lower jaw is RM650. RM500 is discounted price already... I only have 1 wisdom at, which is at lower jaw. I'm thinking whether it's possible to get my wisdom tooth extracted at some other place with better offer.

Btw, for those who have experience with bite stopper. May I know normally how long it needs to stay there? After having it on for 1 day, I can't stand it anymore. It affects my pronunciation. I can't stand my own pronunciation now. Help!!!

This post has been edited by karynkhoo: Jul 23 2009, 11:28 PM

Hi..i know wat u mean and ur worries... I would say dont worry. It happens to me that way too. I dont see result in my first month, i was so inpatient...but at the end of my second month, i can see the difference edy. Dont even need to compare pix also i realise the changes.

And about the 'once a while pain'. Yah, thats right. I have the same experience also... Its normal. Dont be too worried whether it will pain or not pain. Pain happens for a reason. Just remember that... Pain means movements. U will feel better that way. And its true, the pain only happen for 3 days. After that wont be any pain. And that pain duration actually allows ur teeth to move.

U will be amazed how the pain can switch place cos bit by bit the teeth are moving. R u Dr. How's patient? IF yes, i would advise u that to trust wat Dr. How told u. IF he told u 'thats fine', it will be fine. I'm not sure abt other doctor. But as Dr. How's patient and my experience with him so far. I really trust him. Initially i hav lots of worries also. Always with lots of questions to ask Dr. How

Like when my gum bleeds, i ask him how, or then i feel uncomfortable with, power chain, my extractions, growing wires, bite stopper were crushed cos i too ganas... and more. He will always advice me what i should and should not worry.

My progress so far has been great. Even the lubang where i extracted my teeth also closing quite soon. Somemore i worried so much that the lubang will be there for long. Now not anymore...only the lower jaw lubang on the left is a bit slow... mayb my gum stubborn...

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Added on July 23, 2009, 11:50 pmbite stopper problem ya? I had pronunciation problem even before having bite stopper.. first month i cant pronounce 'braces' and i always whistle due to the braces in mouth. the bite stopper thing, depends on situation. Guess what? i still have half of the stopper with me until now.

why half? hmmm.... usually we should have 2 right? Left and Right. But my right stopper were crushed after one week. Then the left stopper remain until now. But bit by bit its disappearing also. Cos i grind my teeth in my sleep.

Event tho one side gone and imbalance bite, but Dr. how says... "It's ok"

hahahah

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: Jul 23 2009, 11:50 PM

OMG! Nikki... you mean you have been having bite stopper for... 8 months??!! Dr. How did not remove it for you? May I know how did you survive with it? Cannot chew/bite at all right? coz upper and lower teeth cannot touch.

I can survive with it cos like i said, i only hav half of the stopper right now. Its almost gone already actually. The other side totally gone. Of course i can eat, bite and chew. My both left and right also can touch even with bite stopper there now... i also dunno why. Mayb cos nothing much left there....

Near to Tropicana Golf.

Ok now im confused.
Damon 3 not using ceramic? Only Metal?

i think the ceramic one is called innovation C.

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Added on July 24, 2009, 7:57 pmbite stopper sounds irritating. arrgghh.. hopefully i dont have to have that.. My first appointment after installing braces will be in the middle of august as i only need to see my ortho once every two months but i can feel the wire is getting longer and it is very disturbing when i eat.. i use wax all the time on this end of wire .. the other end is ok.. do u all use wax all the time?

This post has been edited by snowy_sharz: Jul 24 2009, 07:57 PM

Damon also got ceramic system. But my doctor say thru his experience, he thinks damon ceramic is not as good compared to Innovation C.
But for metal, both are same.

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Added on July 25, 2009, 9:48 am(Innovation is another brand. Different than Damon. Dont confuse urself.




Wax to avoid poking? ya... i rely on the wax very much also.

This post has been edited by NikkiDaTeddy: Jul 25 2009, 09:48 AM

sorry for confusing other ppl.. haha..

Nikki, can you teach me how you crush your bite stopper? I want to crush mine as well

hahaha...u better dont try. Hehehe... if doctor put the stopper there, i'm sure its for ur own good lo. Maybe just check how long it has to be there lo... then just bear with is a little? No choice la right, for beauty ma.

Just be glad u dont have to install screws and fix ur gum like i did only.

huh?! you installed screws? like how ken did? but i remember ur teeth is not that bad. why do you need screws?

ya...i have the screws same like Ken. My teeth are actually bad. But main reason for me to hav those screws is bcos i have gummy smile. shows lots of gum. So doctor installed these screws to minimize the gum from showing. Which now has improved a lot.

Sorry guys, been too busy on my project works recently. Will seldom log here till sep.. You may PM me if any msg would like attention to me.

For stoper.. some people installed on both side. some just one on the middle (behind teeth of course) like mine.. was installed for few month.

How long the stoper will install? It's depend on your situation. The answer should: till your teeth moved and your teeth no longer hit on the braces.
when full close mouth or chew food.


How to eat ?

Based on my experience, the only way is swallow the food. So, you have to eat real soft food or blend the vege, meat with porridge to ensure you have enough nutrition for that few month. That's why my weight drop (Don't blend too long, else the taste will not nice. Try it, u will get what i means)

Hi guys,
Thanks for the explaination.
Im going for In-Ovation C, the dentist quoted me rm5500 for In-Ovation C (full course plus retainer)
1st appointment i paid rm500, 2nd appointment(bonding) have to rm1500.
Monthly for 18 months rm195.
Is it expansive?
And and after we have completed the treatment and take out the braces, will it change our face also a bit?
Do u guys notice any differences on ur face after the treatment? Example ur face become slimmer or thinner or
maybe ur mouth become smaller or something?

This post has been edited by izdyharz: Jul 29 2009, 02:35 AM