Let's say each splitter connect 32 ONU, each will have 80Mbps.
However, because not everyone sign up 100Mbps, the GPON Line Profile can configure each ONU to have the required subscription speed.

With 10x speed upgrade, even at 100mbps for each ONU, each TDM time slot can only run at 25.6mbps.

Yes I know Wifi, LTE runs on time slot too. However in PON they are fixed interval and must to be provisioned.

Let's say your area is congested, the congestion is upstream in the BNG or metro-e switch (the GPON doesn't congest because time slot is provisioned). What I am describing in the GPON limitation itself

I totally felt your frustration and aggression towards them. Pushing responsibility is their trend, I'm afraid.

- Live chat agent don't seems to be very friendly and everybody given different answered. Hit the poor rating button after the chat conversation, let the management know what their next action to be taken. Meanwhile jeopardize their staff KPI and incentives. Since they are very concern about customer happiness and SMS

Tentatively put to a halt on upgrade @nikrizal shared they will blast on Sept 1 onward. Lets see another 2 week time

Since they given the time frame to upgrade between Aug - Dec and 2019. Let it be for now, this is Malaysia. Our country is far more bigger than Singapore.

- To those who checked on 18th July for Turbo Eligibility on their microsite and to those who received via email.
I m pretty sure , and if they failed to comply what they promised. Take them to court, to claim remunerations

This post has been edited by newbienew: Aug 18 2018, 12:37 AM

It maybe a problem for very congested housing area but most people who used Unifi not because they wanted, is they must use due to this is the only option. So before upgrade and after upgrade their still don't heavily use it. Maybe the OLT only used by 1 or 2 heavy users.
At least when I used 100Mbps plan last time, the speed is always consistent. 😁

This post has been edited by poh880: Aug 17 2018, 11:55 PM

Since 15 Aug everyday I check my speed now they said next month hope later don't say next year.

@kwss he is right somehow, they needs to upgrade their GPON.

- 8 port available in a white box pole, per street usually comes with 4 white box equivalent to 32 residents

I bet a lot will lodge complaint towards TM. Can you imagine if two household on 800 Mbps and they fully utilize and hogging the download speed. What about the other 30 residential surrounding them

NG-PON2 total network output 40gbps, which means able to cater 40 residents at 1gbps . This is the only solution for everyone to enjoy turbo upgrade


Can we put it in this way, if there is an order raise in your unifi activity the day before. The following day will enjoy the free speed upgrade.

This post has been edited by newbienew: Aug 18 2018, 12:14 AM

I am on 100Mbps too and yes, as long as upstream is not congested, you will get full speed.
This is a configuration limitation for the OLT. Let's wait and see how they want to solve it.
Pulling more fiber and breaking up ONU into more splitters / OLT port
- or -
Upgrade to newer technology.

If TM decided not to upgrade today, then we are kind of near the maximum of the GPON.
When TM said they have a lot of unused Unifi port, they really just mean the physical port

But many rural outskirts internet backbone NOT even support 40Gbps yet... just FYI

Nowadays people focus on down stream over upstream. Unless you working in advertising media and fashion line, highly rely on upload. Theoretically to say, 100 mbps per household is more than enough.

I bet the deployment for FTTH, eyes on Central, not countryside. This is why they are confident for the turbo upgrade.

Actually if you were to compare to England, our internet speed and infrastructure is improving. Their end each household getting inconsistent dl and ul , subject to peak hours and promised on certain speed range. The only telco that offered fully fibre optic services is HyperOptic in London. Rest of the place is prove to a nightmare.

As far as I know from a friend who work in Singapore as network engineering. He told me their PON network output to per building is 26gbps per ISP.
- Singtel owned their personal infrastructure
- Starhub and MyRepublic sharing fibre infrastructure
- M1 owned their personal infrastructure

- Assume if there are 50 units in a building, equivalent to said everybody get 500 mbps for 1Gbps signed up. I haven't take into account for those who signed up 10 Gbps and 2 Gbps yet. Can you imagine, how the speed looks like, if everyone using wired connection

Now we can tell, whatever Telco advertised speed is not what we getting. We being con by them for ages , under the sales agreement. There are no guarantee speed set for peak hours. Anyone have insider information, on how they set the QOS

This post has been edited by newbienew: Aug 18 2018, 12:49 AM

Actually TM can reuse their assets by upgrading some area, move the old equipment and redeploy in rural area.
They don't have to go ballistic right from the start. That's how I see it

Maybe they using gfast for building basement to deliver turbo over copper, then can use the old vdsl dslams for subb deployment??

This post has been edited by miloaisdino: Aug 18 2018, 12:46 AM

possible, but it is still very hard for them to provide 300mbps to alot of customer since alot of vdsl2 users cant even get proper 50mbps connection.

The speed is still limited and people will still demand 100mbps to 800mbps upgrade.
Also, that is provided their copper cable is good enough.

In the old times, ADSL requires at least 800 Ohm of cable shield resistance to deliver good experience. Many areas have much lower resistance rating. The blame game then starts, it is not TM who pull the cable, etc etc.

Also as cable age, the sheath degrade and resistance drop.
It is still better to go FTTH from the start. Don't be like Australia's Malcolm Turnbull NBN

Edit: 800 Ohm, not Mega, too used to mega everything

This post has been edited by kwss: Aug 18 2018, 01:21 AM

For them to provide 300mbps and above. Most household is on ONU with a fibre patch cord. VDSL2 is unlikely to happen mate

You have any idea the Fibre cable given by TM. Is on single mode or multi-mode? What will be data rate


We can't take Australia as an example, their country is far more bigger than Europe you know. Every single house, is far away from one another. They are not centralized, like Malaysia.

By injecting Fibre to a population which is less than Malaysia. Can you imagine the ROI

This post has been edited by newbienew: Aug 18 2018, 01:31 AM

of course it is single mode, multi-mode could not exceed 1.2km for gigabit connection.

we are talking about g.fast, whoever saying 300mbps on vdsl2 is possible probably ignorance or cant accept the truth.

Since you claim is a single mode. Can I conclude that, from the pole outside my box to my home ONU. It's less than 100 meter away, the speed transmission is up to 10 Gbps

Typical transmission speed and distance limits are
- 100 Mbit/s for distances up to 2 km (100BASE-FX),
- 1 Gbit/s up to 1000 m,
- and 10 Gbit/s up to 550 m.

I believe it is fused silaca inside but don't quote me on it. So for WDM in NG-PON2, maybe some of the wavelength has very high attenuation.

Yea they are far and apart, but I am specifically referring to dense environment like high rise in my reply to you ya

Actually because Turnbull wanted to save cost, NBN spent billions bought over digital TV HFC cable and found out they are not fit for purpose.
Their VDSL Vectoring deployment doesn't looks good too due to crosstalk.

My point is, on paper everything is good. In the field, macam-macam ada. Those who ended up in non FTTH area became the victim

first of all, you should not take the distance between those GPON box/fiber splitter and your ONT, the actual distance is from OLT (Optical Line Terminal) and your ONT, Splitting fibers also contribute to optical loss as well, meaning losses of potential bandwidth.
second,TM is using the older standard of GPON, it can only goes as high as 2.5Gbps (which this is shared among others user)

I understand each OLT generally planted close to the are we living in. Still <1000 meter to the fibre splitter.

Appreciate some insider expert be able to check and reveal, if TM looking to upgrade their GPON?