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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V34, READ 1ST PAGE FOR TURBO SPEED INFO!

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post Aug 17 2018, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(nikrizal @ Aug 17 2018, 07:38 AM)
Latest info:

Active & full blast Turbo Upgrade will commence on 1st September 2018.
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My dear 1st September is on saturday
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post Aug 17 2018, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(one1002 @ Aug 17 2018, 11:21 AM)
So I got the email that i'm eligible for the upgrade.. From 30mbps to 300mbps.. Got phone call from tm for "free" upgrade to 50mbps but since I did not reveal my 4-last digit my ic, so the lady said cannot leyyy.. I was like okkk no problem punn haha..

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But my current router tplink ac1200 can handle the speed upgrade of 300mbps?

Haven't tested the speed lol.. Always forgot..
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Hi, you received this email today??
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post Aug 17 2018, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Aug 17 2018, 01:33 PM)
This is equal to the DIR850L. Bottom line, all TM issued stock router is crap. Get your own.
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rclxs0.gif Very true mate..

Understand quite a lot people received Nokia ONU as a replacement. Does it act as a router or modem? Can it support POE.

I might request them to change it, if all credential possible to configure in optical modem over router. Easily for me to manage ubiquiti AP router


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post Aug 17 2018, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Aug 17 2018, 01:45 PM)
modem
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So credential and VOIP is all configure inside? 4 of the LAN port will have connection
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post Aug 17 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(poh880 @ Aug 17 2018, 01:49 PM)
Replacement for what? It is just a replacement for Alcatel Lucent ONU due to Nokia buy in, can say is 1-to-1 brand name change only. tongue.gif
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Replacement of faulty unit?? Anyway it's depend on the exchange be able to support only. I heard from some FT, some of the locations only support huawei or ericsson.

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post Aug 17 2018, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Aug 17 2018, 01:53 PM)
Yes. Only a single LAN port will be dedicated from receiving /sending digital signals from/to the router.
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I need 4 LAN port to receiving and sending signal. Any possible? Since I m running AP.
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post Aug 17 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jjuggler @ Aug 17 2018, 02:14 PM)
Buy a router bro. BTU cannot be router and vice versa unless the one supplied to you was modem+router. If you're using a separate devices modem and router, just buy a new router and you can use all the given ports in the router for your AP's.
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I had enough router mate, my only concern is.

The ONU itself act as a modem already, I look into manufacturing configration. Defo you can configure the PPPoe inside. Then LAN 2-4 should be work by then.

If I bought any AP or Router . Just configure in AP mode and plug and play.
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post Aug 17 2018, 05:28 PM

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So the turbo upgrade tentatively put to a halt until further notice? Anyone getting upgrade yesterday or today.?

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post Aug 17 2018, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(tolorati @ Aug 17 2018, 05:03 PM)
am i right to assume that if i'm getting the turbo, they'll change my fiberhome modem? i just checked my router, it says it is connected to the modem @ 100mbps only.. and i thought my fiberhome is gigabit ready.. lol
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Change to cat5e and above cable. Hope it helps
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post Aug 17 2018, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 17 2018, 10:12 PM)
it's wrenching to read... after so many pages and post aug15...

not even sure if ANYONE got turbo-ed for real!! laugh.gif
all this anxiety, expectations, hope, faith.... all looks like evaporating.

seriously... has TM said everything is in order, anyime now?

or it has said suspended, forget the whole turbo myth?

or zipped mouth, nothing... see no evil, talk no evil?!!
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I totally felt your frustration and aggression towards them. Pushing responsibility is their trend, I'm afraid.

- Live chat agent don't seems to be very friendly and everybody given different answered. Hit the poor rating button after the chat conversation, let the management know what their next action to be taken. Meanwhile jeopardize their staff KPI and incentives. Since they are very concern about customer happiness and SMS

Tentatively put to a halt on upgrade @nikrizal shared they will blast on Sept 1 onward. Lets see another 2 week time

Since they given the time frame to upgrade between Aug - Dec and 2019. Let it be for now, this is Malaysia. Our country is far more bigger than Singapore.

- To those who checked on 18th July for Turbo Eligibility on their microsite and to those who received via email.
I m pretty sure , and if they failed to comply what they promised. Take them to court, to claim remunerations innocent.gif

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post Aug 18 2018, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(poh880 @ Aug 17 2018, 11:54 PM)
It maybe a problem for very congested housing area but most people who used Unifi not because they wanted, is they must use due to this is the only option. So before upgrade and after upgrade their still don't heavily use it. Maybe the OLT only used by 1 or 2 heavy users.
At least when I used 100Mbps plan last time, the speed is always consistent. 😁
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@kwss he is right somehow, they needs to upgrade their GPON.

- 8 port available in a white box pole, per street usually comes with 4 white box equivalent to 32 residents

I bet a lot will lodge complaint towards TM. Can you imagine if two household on 800 Mbps and they fully utilize and hogging the download speed. What about the other 30 residential surrounding them

NG-PON2 total network output 40gbps, which means able to cater 40 residents at 1gbps . This is the only solution for everyone to enjoy turbo upgrade


QUOTE(techmania @ Aug 18 2018, 12:01 AM)
Since 15 Aug everyday I check my speed now they said next month hope later don't say next year.
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Can we put it in this way, if there is an order raise in your unifi activity the day before. The following day will enjoy the free speed upgrade.

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post Aug 18 2018, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(kwss @ Aug 18 2018, 12:14 AM)
I am on 100Mbps too and yes, as long as upstream is not congested, you will get full speed.
This is a configuration limitation for the OLT. Let's wait and see how they want to solve it.
Pulling more fiber and breaking up ONU into more splitters / OLT port
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Upgrade to newer technology.

If TM decided not to upgrade today, then we are kind of near the maximum of the GPON.
When TM said they have a lot of unused Unifi port, they really just mean the physical port
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Nowadays people focus on down stream over upstream. Unless you working in advertising media and fashion line, highly rely on upload. Theoretically to say, 100 mbps per household is more than enough.

QUOTE(wilson1stop @ Aug 18 2018, 12:15 AM)
But many rural outskirts internet backbone NOT even support 40Gbps yet... just FYI  sweat.gif
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I bet the deployment for FTTH, eyes on Central, not countryside. This is why they are confident for the turbo upgrade.

Actually if you were to compare to England, our internet speed and infrastructure is improving. Their end each household getting inconsistent dl and ul , subject to peak hours and promised on certain speed range. The only telco that offered fully fibre optic services is HyperOptic in London. Rest of the place is prove to a nightmare.

As far as I know from a friend who work in Singapore as network engineering. He told me their PON network output to per building is 26gbps per ISP.
- Singtel owned their personal infrastructure
- Starhub and MyRepublic sharing fibre infrastructure
- M1 owned their personal infrastructure

- Assume if there are 50 units in a building, equivalent to said everybody get 500 mbps for 1Gbps signed up. I haven't take into account for those who signed up 10 Gbps and 2 Gbps yet. Can you imagine, how the speed looks like, if everyone using wired connection

Now we can tell, whatever Telco advertised speed is not what we getting. We being con by them for ages bangwall.gif , under the sales agreement. There are no guarantee speed set for peak hours. Anyone have insider information, on how they set the QOS

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post Aug 18 2018, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 18 2018, 01:06 AM)
possible, but it is still very hard for them to provide 300mbps to alot of customer since alot of vdsl2 users cant even get proper 50mbps connection.
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For them to provide 300mbps and above. Most household is on ONU with a fibre patch cord. VDSL2 is unlikely to happen mate
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QUOTE(kwss @ Aug 18 2018, 01:12 AM)
The speed is still limited and people will still demand 100mbps to 800mbps upgrade.
Also, that is provided their copper cable is good enough.

In the old times, ADSL requires at least 800 Ohm of cable shield resistance to deliver good experience. Many areas have much lower resistance rating. The blame game then starts, it is not TM who pull the cable, etc etc.

Also as cable age, the sheath degrade and resistance drop.
It is still better to go FTTH from the start. Don't be like Australia's Malcolm Turnbull NBN

Edit: 800 Ohm, not Mega, too used to mega everything
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You have any idea the Fibre cable given by TM. Is on single mode or multi-mode? What will be data rate


We can't take Australia as an example, their country is far more bigger than Europe you know. Every single house, is far away from one another. They are not centralized, like Malaysia.

By injecting Fibre to a population which is less than Malaysia. Can you imagine the ROI

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 18 2018, 01:30 AM)
of course it is single mode, multi-mode could not exceed 1.2km for gigabit connection.
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Since you claim is a single mode. Can I conclude that, from the pole outside my box to my home ONU. It's less than 100 meter away, the speed transmission is up to 10 Gbps

Typical transmission speed and distance limits are
- 100 Mbit/s for distances up to 2 km (100BASE-FX),
- 1 Gbit/s up to 1000 m,
- and 10 Gbit/s up to 550 m.

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post Aug 18 2018, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 18 2018, 01:43 AM)
first of all, you should not take the distance between those GPON box/fiber splitter and your ONT, the actual distance is from OLT (Optical Line Terminal) and your ONT, Splitting fibers also contribute to optical loss as well, meaning losses of potential bandwidth.
second,TM is using the older standard of GPON, it can only goes as high as 2.5Gbps (which this is shared among others user)
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I understand each OLT generally planted close to the are we living in. Still <1000 meter to the fibre splitter.

Appreciate some insider expert be able to check and reveal, if TM looking to upgrade their GPON?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 18 2018, 01:48 AM)
no... i have no agression towards them, been ok over the years.

and not so frustrated since i am quite ok with 100mbps now.

it's just that it's so low level to announce and nothing happens; set up website  for customers to check, took it down; call or chat, u get no firm answers, etc.

communicating with customers and public at large is way too lacking... don't the managers and directors feel shameful?!! biggrin.gif

and everyday here, a couple of dozen people will ask "do i get or not", "when coming?", "my cable ok or not?"....

quite laughable, really...
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Their staff answered like a robot.
- The implementation by stages. Rollout 1st phases starting August 2018 until December 2018. Phases 2 started 2019, changed of equipment is necessary.
- We are now rolling out our turbo upgrades as pilot phase first to selected existing unifi customers to the new high speeds of 100 Mbps, 300 Mbps, 500 Mbps and 800 Mbps. We will keep you updated once this pilot phase is completed and when we are ready to roll out to our existing customers nationwide. The eligible customer will be contacted via phone call and SMS upon the confirmation of appointment for the free speed upgrade.
- We cannot check our microsite, and our intranet is down since 18th July.

Put Malaysia to shame. Boo on YOU, every chat agent a story teller. The best they could tell you 'It's management decision' we cannot do anything

- If your case go to their director, means very serious mate
- I deal with most their managers previously. Very poor knowledge, should send them for more training. I think they seriously need to appoint foreign skill workers to guide them on this


QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 18 2018, 01:51 AM)
if they are going to upgrade to 10-GPON, they need to upgrade their OLT as well as all costumer equipment, we can safely said they will not upgrade anytime soon.  biggrin.gif
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Can you describe further. By upgrading their OLT, what are the impact to existing ONT/ONU?

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Aug 18 2018, 02:04 AM)
simple, it cant work. Your ONT are not sensitive enough to receive light running at 10GHz frequency.

but im not sure if the 10-GPON ONT/OLT are backward compatible with older standard.
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Possible they will deploy 10-GPON and NG-PON2. Depends on the population and user.
- There a chances 10GPON and NG-PON2 is already compatible to older standard. There is no necessary for a change in ONT

Let me dive into deeper . I will let you know tomorrow

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ Aug 18 2018, 02:20 AM)
Hi,

How i do setup dual band for my default unifi router?

It only shows 1 wifi network.

I noticed other house have 2.4 and 5.0ghz wifi network
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Which router are you using ?

You needs AC wireless card to use 5ghz..

- disabled band steering on most router will split up 2.4ghz and 5ghz SSID
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QUOTE(miloaisdino @ Aug 18 2018, 07:25 AM)
If i remember correctly myrepublic doesnt use nucleus connect anymore? So their backhaul bandwidth is actually from singtel, not starhub...

All isps rent their dark fibre and last mile from Singtel, through a company called Netlink Trust (govt appointed).
Tm can play Singtel's role in malaysia in this case

As the backhaul from buildings to central office is dark fibre, the bandwidth is greatly dependent on the isp and their equipment in general
For example, netlink trust have a lot of spare dark fibre in their ducts, that you can even sign up a dedicated fibre (sfp+) 10gbps internet straight from your house to central office without splitters, for only sgd189/mth (superinternet residential activeethernet  plan)

Oh, and singapore isps dont use pppoe. Instead they limit the number of usuable onu ports to one only (hoping u dont connect yr own network switch). What happens when u do that tho is u can get multiple public ip smile.gif
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Nucleus used by Starhub, I'm not too sure about MyRepublic. I recall they run their dedicated fibre cable, maybe not now.

NLT used to belong to Singtel. IDA force Singtel to divest the business. For now they are minority shareholder at 20 %.

Singtel belong to Temasek, and Temasek belong to government. Towards the end the money channel back to themselves.

- This will exercise by TM from time being once Fibre is fully deployed in Malaysia.
- Meanwhile TM will contract with other rivals . If were to use their infrastructure pay them a certain amount of fund. Regardless how many customer sign up with them

Charges we expecting in future
- FTP activation is currently charged at Singapore 56.71 SGD per signed up and per relocation. Effective from 2018
- Maybe installation charge.
- Some people might hack the wall and remove the FTP during renovation. So they will charge for rewiring.
- One premises entitle for one time wiring only . Think wisely where you looking to put your FTP to avoid blindspot and poor WI-FI Coverage

10Gbps current charged SGD 189 by Singtel, doesn't mean they are on dedicated Fibre line. They still sharing the same bandwidth with the building and units.
- You have any clue how much a dedicated line only serve to your home ? With multiple mode. Only multinational company can afford that
- Also are you looking to invest in PCI Express 10 Gigabit Ethernet Network Card . Cost you are fortune at USD 250

Consumer grade motherboard, do not have any Ethernet support 10 Gigabit till date.

True, I have no idea why Malaysia still exercise PPPoE. Most countries Obtain ISP address automatically, with credential patch in ONT.
- In Malaysia the IP address more or less the same, if you notice. The IP address given on that area, will be recycle from time to time once reboot.
- I rang once for Static IP, they ask me to fork out another MYR 200 for it. They should look into this, M1 is offering 2 dollar for Static IP.


QUOTE(SilentVampire @ Aug 18 2018, 12:15 PM)
Haha, I only recommend the router I think is the best for price and stability. Thank you for trusting my recommendation. Hope you got the v4.
RG4400. But, I would recommend you switch to the Archer C7 v4, if you want something more stable, and that can support 800Mbps on 5GHz.
Can’t agree more. I have lost the DIR850L, and the C1200 v1 is just horrible. V3, which is the newest one in the market, is okay.
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I would recommend to buy cheap ASUS Router AC86U and AC88U. Please obtain from Amazon

Tips
- Sign up their amazon PRIME 30 days with credit card. Select Expedited delivery to Malaysia.
After that live chat with agent. They will absorb the import tax and delivery charges.
- Travel here most time, mostly bought from Amazon US and UK. They offered a lot voucher for every 100 USD purchase .. at about 15-30 USD per time. After currency conversion, still a great bargain.

Alternatives, please get in Carousell Brand New in Sealed Box comes with 3 year local warranty. Request any friend who work in Singapore to buy it usually 230-300 SGD and carry to Malaysia. Depends on the model you getting


QUOTE(rehohk @ Aug 18 2018, 12:33 PM)
are u trying to say telco is cheating on u? letsay with the 800Mbps speed, do u expect u can download file 1G in 2s?
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How you derived this calculation. at 800mbps with a 1G file . Takes 10second.
- What I trying to say on my previous post. You won't be getting full speed advertise by them.

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