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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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Steponlego
post Aug 23 2022, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ Aug 23 2022, 09:24 AM)
I changed my masters twice. Bodo punya design i think from the heat, the cap warps, the cap becomes oval shape. Get brake cleaner in mr DIY and spray all over it.
Brake fluid will eat paint
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I scared brake cleaner will be bad for the plastic parts. I just give a good wipe with a cloth rag. For the brake fluid that got onto the lower arm, I spray brake cleaner but at some part it just won't come off.
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post Aug 23 2022, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 23 2022, 11:59 AM)
I scared brake cleaner will be bad for the plastic parts. I just give a good wipe with a cloth rag. For the brake fluid that got onto the lower arm, I spray brake cleaner but at some part it just won't come off.
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Soaked too long. And it wont be bad for plastic parts, it evaporates almost instantly.
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post Aug 24 2022, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 03:39 PM)
Guys, lately when start car, it 'tak' for 1 second, then can start as normal. I thought battery weak, after change new battery, once a while still happen, 1st crank, like 1 second not enough power, then will crank & start as normal.

What could be the problem?
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 08:01 PM)
I guess is the sign of weak starter. Just price to replace is not cheap. I call up Proton RM530. If refurbish out side shop is RM130 to RM290. Still wonder which 1 to choose or just leave it until become worse.

Just worry sudden can't crank then problem.
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 09:00 PM)
Really-ah? Can last that long?  My is only initial weak to crank for 1 or 2 second, then after that ok. But before this all this while no such issue. Lately, change timing belt before last few months, but shouldn't be related.

I shouldn't change my battery so soon.

About your alignment, could it be bush or lower arm issue? My haven't change yet.
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is it caused by alternator problem? just sharing... there is 1 expert shop repair alternator discussed here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2537796/+500


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post Aug 24 2022, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 23 2022, 11:55 AM)
A bit of general talk, how often do you change the engine oil and ATF?

I'm using shell fully synthetic 5w40, noticed the engine running a bit rough after 7000km and 10 months.

ATF I use Aisin AFW+. After 1 year and 8 months I change because the auto gear shifting starts to feel like crap. Mileage was 15000km. I was targeting for the ATF to last 2 years or 20,000km.

After this I'm thinking maybe ATF should change once every year and full synthetic engine oil only for 6000km.
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semi synthetic 5,000 km
ATF 20,000 km
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post Aug 24 2022, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ Aug 23 2022, 09:29 AM)
No pt buying refurbished parts when proton parts are cheap, and refurb one they swapped worn parts out but that doesnt mean internally other parts are ok.
Just need to find it urself in Segambut, or a few spare part shops.
My APM original one is only RM300. Alternator is the expensive one almost 600 APM.
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Alright, let me check with normal Workshop. Can't identify is Alternator related?

QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 23 2022, 11:55 AM)
A bit of general talk, how often do you change the engine oil and ATF?

I'm using shell fully synthetic 5w40, noticed the engine running a bit rough after 7000km and 10 months.

ATF I use Aisin AFW+. After 1 year and 8 months I change because the auto gear shifting starts to feel like crap. Mileage was 15000km. I was targeting for the ATF to last 2 years or 20,000km.

After this I'm thinking maybe ATF should change once every year and full synthetic engine oil only for 6000km.
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For ATF I still stick back to Proton original change every 20k, Engine oil was using Shell semi, 5w30.

QUOTE(propusers @ Aug 24 2022, 09:04 AM)
is it caused by alternator problem? just sharing... there is 1 expert shop repair alternator discussed here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2537796/+500
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ya, I found this shop & Sentul as well. Just I not sure how reliable is this, and relate to alternator or not?
I know while changing battery, they ask me start the engine, then swap the engine, and even before change battery my SOC is 98%, so can conclude that alternator is still ok?
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post Aug 24 2022, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 02:17 PM)
Alright, let me check with normal Workshop. Can't identify is Alternator related?
Confirm its not alternator. Either battery too weak, connection to starter loose or starter worn out
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post Aug 24 2022, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ Aug 24 2022, 03:12 PM)
Confirm its not alternator. Either battery too weak, connection to starter loose or starter worn out
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Thanks. Then i have the answer already. Battery just change, so must be starter. So far happened twice in the past 2 months. Will see how it goes.
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post Aug 24 2022, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 03:51 PM)
Thanks. Then i have the answer already. Battery just change, so must be starter. So far happened twice in the past 2 months. Will see how it goes.
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If its more than few years old confirm dy. I just changed mine few months ago.
Car aged at 10 years. Alternator too giving noises. Wallet sakit
I needed the knocking treatment to crank ahahhha

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post Aug 24 2022, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ Aug 24 2022, 03:54 PM)
If its more than few years old confirm dy. I just changed mine few months ago.
Car aged at 10 years. Alternator too giving noises. Wallet sakit
I needed the knocking treatment to crank ahahhha
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so before you change also same symptom? how bad is it?
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 05:27 PM)
so before you change also same symptom? how bad is it?
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not sure mine similar to yours, sometimes mine crank liao engine will mati the 1st round, then crank again will be back to normal.
But been like this for few years.
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post Aug 24 2022, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Aug 24 2022, 04:29 PM)
not sure mine similar to yours, sometimes mine crank liao engine will mati the 1st round, then crank again will be back to normal.
But been like this for few years.
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Engine die off? This 1 never happened. Once a while 1st crank cannot get, then need to crank longer only can start, this happened many years already, mostly on engine is hot like after refuel petrol or tapao time.

This round is like 1 second no power to crank, after that back to normal & is powerful as my battery is new. That's why hold me not to replace my starter yet. hmm.gif
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post Aug 24 2022, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 05:37 PM)
Engine die off? This 1 never happened. Once a while 1st crank cannot get, then need to crank longer only can start, this happened many years already, mostly on engine is hot like after refuel petrol or tapao time.

This round is like 1 second no power to crank, after that back to normal & is powerful as my battery is new. That's why hold me not to replace my starter yet.  hmm.gif
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yeah, once crank it start few second then slowly macam dying ada engine light then mati liao need to recrank then back to normal.
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post Aug 24 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Aug 24 2022, 04:47 PM)
yeah, once crank it start few second then slowly macam dying ada engine light then mati liao need to recrank then back to normal.
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This not seems like Starter. Fuel pump or Spark plug? See any expert answer here.
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post Aug 24 2022, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 04:27 PM)
so before you change also same symptom? how bad is it?
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If the starter doesnt crank i just whack with hammer. 10 years i figure just change it

QUOTE(McFcker @ Aug 24 2022, 04:47 PM)
yeah, once crank it start few second then slowly macam dying ada engine light then mati liao need to recrank then back to normal.
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Mine does happen, reported by alot of campro owners. I experienced twice in 10 years it died while driving. Not exactly dangerous but people would panic haha
It can also mean u have vacumm leaks, valves not seating properly etc. Mine hates hot start, cold start damn good.
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post Aug 24 2022, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(stupidcar @ Aug 24 2022, 05:18 PM)
If the starter doesnt crank i just whack with hammer. 10 years i figure just change it
How you do it? Can do alone? Open up the bonnet can easily reach?

Need to learn or emergency.
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post Aug 24 2022, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 24 2022, 07:54 PM)
How you do it? Can do alone? Open up the bonnet can easily reach?

Need to learn or emergency.
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Yeap, right below the intake manifold, under the throttle body.
If u know how a starter looks like, its easy.
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QUOTE(McFcker @ Aug 24 2022, 04:47 PM)
yeah, once crank it start few second then slowly macam dying ada engine light then mati liao need to recrank then back to normal.
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One of it here. After change starter still will have but now i just let fuel pump prime nice nice only start to avoid that.

Maybe fuel pump lemah already.
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post Aug 26 2022, 01:27 PM

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Hi guys wanna ask, can u all shift the gear from P to R or to D even u don't press on the brakes?
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post Aug 28 2022, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Aug 26 2022, 01:27 PM)
Hi guys wanna ask, can u all shift the gear from P to R or to D even u don't press on the brakes?
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I think can, but i wouldn't do that.

I once put from D to P when trying to diagnose my car. Good thing car was on jack stand, just the wheels spinning.
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post Aug 28 2022, 01:59 AM

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If anyone need a new meter for Auto Non ABS Persona/Gen2, I think I'm selling mine. PW855505. New-ish with about 250km on odometer. Used for a week.

Why? Because this new meter acting weird with my car. Mornings when the engine cold, the fuel meter refuses to move. Fuel meter will become normal after drive the car few minutes and restart the engine. At times when turning the key to accessory mode, engine not started, the RPM meter moved a bit.

Currently I'm trying to return the meter to the seller, but I don't think guy would accept the return. Waiting for the seller to confirm with the supplier because usually these part don't come with warranty.

I really don't know if the problem is with the meter or my car. Because as the seller said, this is the first time a new meter doesn't work right. Now I'm using my old meter that was repaired 2nd time - and the repair guy said, this is also his first time customer return to him for 2nd round meter repair.

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