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post Aug 16 2022, 08:00 PM

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post Aug 17 2022, 11:36 AM

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you guys did any suspensions mod? previously i used GAB lowered springs for 4 years then changed back 3 years back to original. Now gatal again wanna lower the car
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post Aug 18 2022, 09:49 PM

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Anyone have experience with leaking brake fluid from the master cylinder cap? I don't have any abnormalities when braking, just happen to notice there's brake fluid leaking. The cylinder cap was loose - usually it's a real bitch to take it off but today it comes off easily.
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post Aug 19 2022, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(McFcker @ Aug 17 2022, 11:36 AM)
you guys did any suspensions mod? previously i used GAB lowered springs for 4 years then changed back 3 years back to original. Now gatal again wanna lower the car
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 18 2022, 09:49 PM)
Anyone have experience with leaking brake fluid from the master cylinder cap? I don't have any abnormalities when braking, just happen to notice there's brake fluid leaking. The cylinder cap was loose - usually it's a real bitch to take it off but today it comes off easily.
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Got a bit. I'll just wash the container and tighten it.
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post Aug 19 2022, 03:39 PM

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Guys, lately when start car, it 'tak' for 1 second, then can start as normal. I thought battery weak, after change new battery, once a while still happen, 1st crank, like 1 second not enough power, then will crank & start as normal.

What could be the problem?
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post Aug 19 2022, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 18 2022, 09:49 PM)
Anyone have experience with leaking brake fluid from the master cylinder cap? I don't have any abnormalities when braking, just happen to notice there's brake fluid leaking. The cylinder cap was loose - usually it's a real bitch to take it off but today it comes off easily.
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yes, few years back happened to me. No matter how tight i turn still will leak slowly. At the end is the gasket on the cover. But the worse part is very hard to find just the gasket. Every spare part shop sell whole set.
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post Aug 19 2022, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 03:39 PM)
Guys, lately when start car, it 'tak' for 1 second, then can start as normal. I thought battery weak, after change new battery, once a while still happen, 1st crank, like 1 second not enough power, then will crank & start as normal.

What could be the problem?
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Same as mine. I just treat it as non issue. Some times turn on the ignition, nothing, no crank. 2nd time engine crank and start like normal. Happened just now lol.

QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 03:42 PM)
yes, few years back happened to me. No matter how tight i turn still will leak slowly. At the end is the gasket on the cover. But the worse part is very hard to find just the gasket. Every spare part shop sell whole set.
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After 2 hours driving, looks like the reservoir is dry. Confirmed leak is from cap not properly tightened after major service early this week.

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post Aug 19 2022, 04:29 PM

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Always a new problem with this car...

This morning I drive the car, nothing unusual. 1 hour drive highway. On the afternoon, I noticed that the steering wheel is pointed to the left when going straight. Like maybe 10 degree off from the center and very noticeable.

Stopped by the usual wheel shop. Ask to look why this thing happen, because last alignment did was few days ago. They pump some air for the wheels, 5 minute test drive and put the car on the alignment machine... found out nothing was abnormal. The boss said probably bad steering rack or the 3 years old tire is about time for a change. During test drive they said the car is normal and steering wheel is centered. I declined tire change because I'm broke already for the month.

When I drive home from the shop, suddenly now the steering wheel is centered. what just happened here?? lack of tire pressure?


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post Aug 19 2022, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 19 2022, 04:29 PM)
Always a new problem with this car...

This morning I drive the car, nothing unusual. 1 hour drive  highway. On the afternoon, I noticed that the steering wheel is pointed to the left when going straight. Like maybe 10 degree off from the center and very noticeable.

Stopped by the usual wheel shop. Ask to look why this thing happen, because last alignment did was few days ago. They pump some air for the wheels, 5 minute test drive and put the car on the alignment machine... found out nothing was abnormal. The boss said probably bad steering rack or the 3 years old tire is about time for a change. During test drive they said the car is normal and steering wheel is centered. I declined tire change because I'm broke already for the month.

When I drive home from the shop, suddenly now the steering wheel is centered. what just happened here?? lack of tire pressure?
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Some shop after machine alignment will use the road test to benchmark alignment result, and do minor adjustment like adjust tire pressure to give car correct alignment result. This is usually to offset the effect of our road, which indeed usually is slanted in order to flow rain water to roadside.

To see if they did this or not, you can measure tire pressure to see if they are different between lefts and rights.
In fact when there's an alignment issue, we can always rule out tyre pressure issue first.
Then proceed to next possible cause, which is alignment lari after hitting potholes, or commonly on persona, spoiled steering rack bush.
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post Aug 19 2022, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 19 2022, 04:16 PM)
Same as mine. I just treat it as non issue. Some times turn on the ignition, nothing, no crank. 2nd time engine crank and start like normal. Happened just now lol.
After 2 hours driving, looks like the reservoir is dry. Confirmed leak is from cap not properly tightened after major service early this week.
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I guess is the sign of weak starter. Just price to replace is not cheap. I call up Proton RM530. If refurbish out side shop is RM130 to RM290. Still wonder which 1 to choose or just leave it until become worse.

Just worry sudden can't crank then problem.
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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Aug 19 2022, 06:29 PM)
Some shop after machine alignment will use the road test to benchmark alignment result, and do minor adjustment like adjust tire pressure to give car correct alignment result. This is usually to offset the effect of our road, which indeed usually is slanted in order to flow rain water to roadside.

To see if they did this or not, you can measure tire pressure to see if they are different between lefts and rights.
In fact when there's an alignment issue, we can always rule out tyre pressure issue first.
Then proceed to next possible cause, which is alignment lari after hitting potholes, or commonly on persona, spoiled steering rack bush.
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Didn't do any alignment today tho. Just put on machine, see the reading all within spec. Test drive also nothing. Really weird. blink.gif

QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 08:01 PM)
I guess is the sign of weak starter. Just price to replace is not cheap. I call up Proton RM530. If refurbish out side shop is RM130 to RM290. Still wonder which 1 to choose or just leave it until become worse.

Just worry sudden can't crank then problem.
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Nah don't worry. It has been like this for years on my car. Just roll with it.
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post Aug 19 2022, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 19 2022, 08:10 PM)
Didn't do any alignment today tho. Just put on machine, see the reading all within spec. Test drive also nothing. Really weird.  blink.gif
Nah don't worry. It has been like this for years on my car. Just roll with it.
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Really-ah? Can last that long? My is only initial weak to crank for 1 or 2 second, then after that ok. But before this all this while no such issue. Lately, change timing belt before last few months, but shouldn't be related.

I shouldn't change my battery so soon.

About your alignment, could it be bush or lower arm issue? My haven't change yet.
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post Aug 19 2022, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 09:00 PM)
Really-ah? Can last that long?  My is only initial weak to crank for 1 or 2 second, then after that ok. But before this all this while no such issue. Lately, change timing belt before last few months, but shouldn't be related.

I shouldn't change my battery so soon.

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I think this is one of the problem that only replace when it finally really not working. No use worrying about it, if really cannot start, can call insurance towing service no problem.

QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 09:00 PM)

About your alignment, could it be bush or lower arm issue? My haven't change yet.
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All the bushes on the front end is quite new. Barely 2 years old at this point.
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post Aug 21 2022, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 19 2022, 08:01 PM)
I guess is the sign of weak starter. Just price to replace is not cheap. I call up Proton RM530. If refurbish out side shop is RM130 to RM290. Still wonder which 1 to choose or just leave it until become worse.

Just worry sudden can't crank then problem.
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If financial ok then can do preventive maintenance. If not can use until cannot use then tow. Anyway try to use new one, either OEM or original. i typically avoid recon parts.


QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 19 2022, 08:10 PM)
Didn't do any alignment today tho. Just put on machine, see the reading all within spec. Test drive also nothing. Really weird.  blink.gif
Nah don't worry. It has been like this for years on my car. Just roll with it.
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Then maybe the tyre pressure lari only.
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post Aug 22 2022, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 19 2022, 09:59 PM)
I think this is one of the problem that only replace when it finally really not working. No use worrying about it, if really cannot start, can call insurance towing service no problem.
All the bushes on the front end is quite new. Barely 2 years old at this point.
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Do you notice it will become more serious? such as happened more frequent or take longer time to start? At least some indicator or warning to me. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Aug 21 2022, 11:09 AM)
If financial ok then can do preventive maintenance. If not can use until cannot use then tow. Anyway try to use new one, either OEM or original. i typically avoid recon parts.
Then maybe the tyre pressure lari only.
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Ya, bro. This month spent a lot, and i didn't expect the price for the starter so high. shocking.gif
The refurbish i mean here is there are few shop can service the starter by changing internal part at KL, how good after that, I have no idea. Now will monitor and see how frequent it happen.
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post Aug 22 2022, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 22 2022, 11:01 AM)
Do you notice it will become more serious? such as happened more frequent or take longer time to start? At least some indicator or warning to me.  biggrin.gif
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never noticed it become serious.

however i do notice some funny little clunking noise when i put the car on accessory mode coming from under the engine. doesnt happen all the time. definitely not coming from the throttle body.
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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Aug 18 2022, 09:49 PM)
Anyone have experience with leaking brake fluid from the master cylinder cap? I don't have any abnormalities when braking, just happen to notice there's brake fluid leaking. The cylinder cap was loose - usually it's a real bitch to take it off but today it comes off easily.
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I changed my masters twice. Bodo punya design i think from the heat, the cap warps, the cap becomes oval shape. Get brake cleaner in mr DIY and spray all over it.
Brake fluid will eat paint
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Aug 22 2022, 11:01 AM)
Do you notice it will become more serious? such as happened more frequent or take longer time to start? At least some indicator or warning to me.  biggrin.gif
Ya, bro. This month spent a lot, and i didn't expect the price for the starter so high.  shocking.gif
The refurbish i mean here is there are few shop can service the starter by changing internal part at KL, how good after that, I have no idea. Now will monitor and see how frequent it happen.
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No pt buying refurbished parts when proton parts are cheap, and refurb one they swapped worn parts out but that doesnt mean internally other parts are ok.
Just need to find it urself in Segambut, or a few spare part shops.
My APM original one is only RM300. Alternator is the expensive one almost 600 APM.
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post Aug 23 2022, 11:55 AM

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A bit of general talk, how often do you change the engine oil and ATF?

I'm using shell fully synthetic 5w40, noticed the engine running a bit rough after 7000km and 10 months.

ATF I use Aisin AFW+. After 1 year and 8 months I change because the auto gear shifting starts to feel like crap. Mileage was 15000km. I was targeting for the ATF to last 2 years or 20,000km.

After this I'm thinking maybe ATF should change once every year and full synthetic engine oil only for 6000km.

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