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Steponlego
post Nov 16 2020, 11:54 AM

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Need help. Which type of power steering rack Persona 2007 uses? Looks different from the IAFM, Elegance, SV model. Looks similar to Gen2. Some shop say use the same steering rack as old Waja, Wira and even Satria. Some say cannot use.

Edit: can confirm, can use same as Waja MMC and Wira.

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wklow28
post Dec 4 2020, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Nov 6 2020, 03:08 PM)
Guys, is it worth keeping a 2008 Persona? Replaced the engine 5 years ago because the timing belt snapped. Now I replaced almost all the front suspension parts, costs me almost 2K already. It still drives wonderfully, sometimes the engine makes some funny noises, but other than that it's still okay with aircond sejuk gila.
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Mine is 2009.
Due to overheat problem, chg almost everything of the engine parts.
I will keep it for few years more probably.
Auto 4-speed for our car is far more better is drive than the current CVT~ thumbup.gif
Steponlego
post Dec 4 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Dec 4 2020, 11:01 AM)
Mine is 2009.
Due to overheat problem, chg almost everything of the engine parts.
I will keep it for few years more probably.
Auto 4-speed for our car is far more better is drive than the current CVT~ thumbup.gif
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blown head gasket?
wklow28
post Dec 4 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 4 2020, 02:43 PM)
blown head gasket?
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Haha, ya....
U got it right~ bangwall.gif
Steponlego
post Dec 5 2020, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Dec 4 2020, 04:07 PM)
Haha, ya....
U got it right~ bangwall.gif
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Oof. That probably costs about RM1k at least? I got lucky last year when engine overheat, quickly went to workshop. Only need to replace radiator. A year before that blown head gasket... the feeling when I see exhaust air shooting out from the radiator cap is just horrifying. After that I always make sure to check coolant condition and level.
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post Dec 8 2020, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 5 2020, 12:25 AM)
Oof. That probably costs about RM1k at least? I got lucky last year when engine overheat, quickly went to workshop. Only need to replace radiator. A year before that blown head gasket... the feeling when I see exhaust air shooting out from the radiator cap is just horrifying. After that I always make sure to check coolant condition and level.
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Total close to 3.5K, top overhaul, include crank shaft, etc.... rclxub.gif
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post Dec 11 2020, 03:42 PM

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Any brand of heavy duty shock absorbers to recommend? My July 2019 installed left front Excel-G leaking oil.
Steponlego
post Dec 12 2020, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Dec 11 2020, 03:42 PM)
Any brand of heavy duty shock absorbers to recommend? My July 2019 installed left front Excel-G leaking oil.
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what happened, hit a pot hole ke? i thought that KYB brand good and will last for some time?

I just recently changed my front absorber. The workshop replaced it with Tokico when I ask for quality part that will last long. Costs about RM400 for a pair I think. Unfortunately I can't say if it feels good or not because I've been driving around with a bad shock absorber for too long that I forgot what it supposed to feel to drive with good shocks.
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post Dec 12 2020, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 12 2020, 03:01 AM)
what happened, hit a pot hole ke? i thought that KYB brand good and will last for some time?

I just recently changed my front absorber. The workshop replaced it with Tokico when I ask for quality part that will last long. Costs about RM400 for a pair I think. Unfortunately I can't say if it feels good or not because I've been driving around with a bad shock absorber for too long that I forgot what it supposed to feel to drive with good shocks.
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I don't recall hahahah but could be possible. I drive on trunk road quite often due to staying in second line city. But could be I thrash on corners quite often too. Been on Performax before this so probably i need to go back to either Performax or try the new KYB Ultra. I'll keep Tokico in view. Thanks a lot bro...
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post Dec 12 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Dec 11 2020, 03:42 PM)
Any brand of heavy duty shock absorbers to recommend? My July 2019 installed left front Excel-G leaking oil.
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If u have a budget of RM1.2-RM1.5k, i recommend changing to IMP Comfort Sport series. Lasted me more than 120k km, after that i rebuild it at PRS suspension in Balakong for RM800.

Since your shocks are relatively new, i recommend going to PRS for a full service. probably cost u 600-800 tops and u have an absorber thats better than new. Btw u can tweak ur settings at PRS, as he can adjust the oil pressure, flow rate for u to make it better.
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post Dec 12 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 12 2020, 03:11 PM)
If u have a budget of RM1.2-RM1.5k, i recommend changing to IMP Comfort Sport series. Lasted me more than 120k km, after that i rebuild it at PRS suspension in Balakong for RM800.

Since your shocks are relatively new, i recommend going to PRS for a full service. probably cost u 600-800 tops and u have an absorber thats better than new. Btw u can tweak ur settings at PRS, as he can adjust the oil pressure, flow rate for u to make it better.
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Argh bro I'm in Johor Bahru hahahha. Changed to KYB RS Ultra just now since its relatively new to market, and my mechanic complained he see more and more Excel-G leaking prematurely compared to last time. This month very painful, clutch, engine mounting and absorber one shot kong.
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post Dec 13 2020, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Nov 6 2020, 02:43 PM)
Jerking when stopping could be the front lower control arm. The rubber bushing probably already busted or no longer can absorb movement and shocks. Buy from shopee, one pair about RM150.

Could also be the driveshaft/CV axle, so go under your car and check if the rubber boot is still intact or leaking grease.
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Thanks for your advised.
I need check my lower control arm condition again. You mean rubber bushing attach lower arm or power steering bush ?


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post Dec 13 2020, 04:11 AM

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QUOTE(NAX3383 @ Dec 13 2020, 01:18 AM)
Thanks for your advised.
I need check my lower control arm condition again. You mean rubber bushing attach lower arm or power steering bush ?


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The lower control arm bushing I mean. Just replace the whole thing, I doubt that any workshop would want to spend time replacing only the bushings.

I replaced mine few months ago, it certainly reduces the jerking when the car comes to stop. However, I think the jerking comes mostly from the transmission hard shifting to gear 1. I've found that slowly pressing the brakes helps to reduce the jerking. In other words, it's not really a problem unless you found that the lower arm bushing is completely torn - it's just one of the many quirks of driving Persona/Gen.2. Same like the rough engine braking during coasting downhill. You might feel the jerking as a driver, but as a passenger, the jerking is surprisingly hardly noticeable.

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ashangel39
post Dec 17 2020, 05:56 PM

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Hi everyone. I have a 2010 Persona (Auto) with about 130k mileage. Lately, the gears aren't shifting as smoothly as before. The workshop that I take it to check says that it's the gearbox problem and I'll have to overhaul my gearbox. They say by overhauling it I'll have about another 100-200k to go

Cost of it will be RM 3k plus. Is that normal? Some advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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post Dec 18 2020, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(ashangel39 @ Dec 17 2020, 05:56 PM)
Hi everyone. I have a 2010 Persona (Auto) with about 130k mileage. Lately, the gears aren't shifting as smoothly as before. The workshop that I take it to check says that it's the gearbox problem and I'll have to overhaul my gearbox. They say by overhauling it I'll have about another 100-200k to go

Cost of it will be RM 3k plus. Is that normal? Some advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Nearing 19k here with 2007 Auto, shifts fine for most of the time. Please describe your auto transmission problem, I'm interested to hear from another user. If it's a serious issue, might be time to junk the car..

You can try Lucas Transmission Fix, about RM100 on shopee per bottle. Proven to fix auto transmission problems. Then there's a local product too called JV Lube Auto Transmission Fix by a quite famous transmission specialist workshop in Shah Alam. Same price as Lucas. Had a friend use that one, said that it helps the gears to shift better, but it won't make the transmission feel like new.


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post Dec 18 2020, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 18 2020, 01:01 AM)
Nearing 19k here with 2007 Auto, shifts fine for most of the time. Please describe your auto transmission problem, I'm interested to hear from another user. If it's a serious issue, might be time to junk the car..

You can try Lucas Transmission Fix, about RM100 on shopee per bottle. Proven to fix auto transmission problems. Then there's a local product too called JV Lube Auto Transmission Fix by a quite famous transmission specialist workshop in Shah Alam. Same price as Lucas. Had a friend use that one, said that it helps the gears to shift better, but it won't make the transmission feel like new.
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It has been driving fine all this while. Just that lately while driving, you'll feel that the gear doesn't shift as smoothly anymore. And when you're on a stop/go situation it will take a moment for the gear to kick in when you let go of the brake pedal.

Once had the engine cut off while going up a parking ramp because the gear failed to engaged.

Think the irregular change of gear oil is the main culprit because I don't really have a regular workshop that I take my car to and I'm not very well verse with cars though my car is service regularly but the gear oil might be one of the thing that was overlooked so now I have to pay for it. cry.gif

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post Dec 18 2020, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ashangel39 @ Dec 18 2020, 08:12 AM)
It has been driving fine all this while. Just that lately while driving, you'll feel that the gear doesn't shift as smoothly anymore. And when you're on a stop/go situation it will take a moment for the gear to kick in when you let go of the brake pedal.

Once had the engine cut off while going up a parking ramp because the gear failed to engaged.

Think the irregular change of gear oil is the main culprit because I don't really have a regular workshop that I take my car to and I'm not very well verse with cars though my car is service regularly but the gear oil might be one of the thing that was overlooked so now I have to pay for it.  cry.gif
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That does sounds like a major issue. When was the last time you changed the transmission fluid?

Try asking around at main fast & furious forum or FB proton persona groups for more users opinion. Nobody stops here anymore. For me I will maybe try the cheap and easy fix first with Lucas Transmission Fix + new transmission fluid. If that didn't work, I'll probably junk the car. I'm a bit skeptical about rebuilding/overhauling transmission because you never know the extent of the damaged parts until they take the transmission apart. Replacing the gearbox would be an option too.
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post Dec 18 2020, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(ashangel39 @ Dec 17 2020, 05:56 PM)
Hi everyone. I have a 2010 Persona (Auto) with about 130k mileage. Lately, the gears aren't shifting as smoothly as before. The workshop that I take it to check says that it's the gearbox problem and I'll have to overhaul my gearbox. They say by overhauling it I'll have about another 100-200k to go

Cost of it will be RM 3k plus. Is that normal? Some advise is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Usually those who worked on gearbox will be gearbox specialist. You can try to consult a few more specialist to estimate the cost of repair. Another option is actually to swap to mitsubishi gearbox from halfcut. But i have no idea how much will this cost.

Our owner manual recommends gear oil change every 25,000km, be it manual or automatic tramsmission.

I'm driving a manual and currently on 402,000km. Think i got some syncro wear but still drivable.
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post Dec 18 2020, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 18 2020, 11:31 AM)
That does sounds like a major issue. When was the last time you changed the transmission fluid?

Try asking around at main fast & furious forum or FB proton persona groups for more users opinion. Nobody stops here anymore. For me I will maybe try the cheap and easy fix first with Lucas Transmission Fix + new transmission fluid. If that didn't work, I'll probably junk the car. I'm a bit skeptical about rebuilding/overhauling transmission because you never know the extent of the damaged parts until they take the transmission apart. Replacing the gearbox would be an option too.
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Our car model want to sell also no price... Hahahahaha...
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post Dec 18 2020, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(inferno_17_85 @ Dec 18 2020, 11:33 AM)
Our car model want to sell also no price... Hahahahaha...
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don't say like that la makes me sad... cry.gif i love my old junker. should can sell easy for RM7k if no problem.



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