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post Aug 27 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 27 2019, 01:26 PM)
that is a china domestic model.

the chipset is the same as q5pro/q10pro but i do not know if the firmware and native player is same or similar or diff altogether.

i think i read somewhere that the china model does NOT have hd audio pass through capability, but not entirely sure.

so, u gotta try n see.

for int'l models, they can do all the audios - dd, dd+, ddtruehd, ddatmos, dts, dtshdma, dtsx.

as for google, china domestic market sets will not have them becos google/youtube/chrome is prohibited there.

only int'l models have them, they work fine.
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I have Q5 Quad Core, China domestic model.
It can't play TrueHD, but DTS-HD and Dolby Digital Plus are fine, and domestic model can do audio pass through.

International model is much expensive than the domestic model.

This post has been edited by pcteck19: Aug 27 2019, 04:48 PM
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post Aug 30 2019, 01:54 PM

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Just changed my TV to a 4K model. But it shows that is receiving 1080p signal from my Q10 Pro eventhough the content I am playing is 2160p HVEC file. I am using an unknown HDMI cable brand connected directly from Q10 to the 4K TV without going through any AVR.

What could be the problem? Is it due to my TV settings or Himedia settings?

Thank you.
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post Aug 30 2019, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(HHCC @ Aug 30 2019, 01:54 PM)
Just changed my TV to a 4K model. But it shows that is receiving 1080p signal from my Q10 Pro eventhough the content I am playing is 2160p HVEC file. I am using an unknown HDMI cable brand connected directly from Q10 to the 4K TV without going through any AVR.

What could be the problem? Is it due to my TV settings or Himedia settings?

Thank you.
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check box display settings.

cable usually not a problem.
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post Aug 30 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 30 2019, 02:07 PM)
check box display settings.

cable usually not a problem.
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Thanks. What is the correct settings I should used?
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post Aug 30 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(HHCC @ Aug 30 2019, 02:33 PM)
Thanks. What is the correct settings I should used?
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2 considerations:

1. what do u usually watch with the box-TV?
if mostly 2160p hevc playback, set to 2160p 24hz as this is most common.

if mostly 1080p playback and other apps... best to set to 1080p 50hz... becos most live streams are in 25hz, some 30hz.
if yr firmware is up to date (2.1.4), it does auto frame switching; so this part is actually taken care of.
only that it is annoying to see the messages flashing on the tv every time there is a hz change when u change a video stream.

2. how good is yr TV upscaling?
if v good, u might want to set to 1080p for 1080p/lower streams, let TV upscale.
the box can be set to 2160p to upscale too but it may come out not as good on yr tv - this u gotta try and see.
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post Aug 30 2019, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 30 2019, 03:37 PM)
2 considerations:

1. what do u usually watch with the box-TV?
if mostly 2160p hevc playback, set to 2160p 24hz as this is most common.

if mostly 1080p playback and other apps... best to set to 1080p 50hz... becos most live streams are in 25hz, some 30hz.
if yr firmware is up to date (2.1.4), it does auto frame switching; so this part is actually taken care of.
only that it is annoying to see the messages flashing on the tv every time there is a hz change when u change a video stream.

2. how good is yr TV upscaling?
if v good, u might want to set to 1080p for 1080p/lower streams, let TV upscale.
the box can be set to 2160p to upscale too but it may come out not as good on yr tv - this u gotta try and see.
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Thanks again @AVFAN. Great info.

Mostly 2160p HVEC files.




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post Aug 31 2019, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 30 2019, 03:37 PM)
2 considerations:

1. what do u usually watch with the box-TV?
if mostly 2160p hevc playback, set to 2160p 24hz as this is most common.

if mostly 1080p playback and other apps... best to set to 1080p 50hz... becos most live streams are in 25hz, some 30hz.
if yr firmware is up to date (2.1.4), it does auto frame switching; so this part is actually taken care of.
only that it is annoying to see the messages flashing on the tv every time there is a hz change when u change a video stream.

2. how good is yr TV upscaling?
if v good, u might want to set to 1080p for 1080p/lower streams, let TV upscale.
the box can be set to 2160p to upscale too but it may come out not as good on yr tv - this u gotta try and see.
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Just to add...

My box usually set to 1080p in the past. Recently some tweaking here and there and found that for me, when the setting has been changed to 2160p...

My reaction is WOW thumbup.gif
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post Sep 6 2019, 10:57 AM

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hi guys, Q10pro able to support 4k HDR and DV, right? i assume no issue on DA and DTS-X as well, right? but i heard some one said Q10 only able to support 8bit HDR but not 10bit HDR, is that true? thank you
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post Sep 6 2019, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 10:57 AM)
hi guys, Q10pro able to support 4k HDR and DV, right? i assume no issue on DA and DTS-X as well, right? but i heard some one said Q10 only able to support 8bit HDR but not 10bit HDR, is that true? thank you
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4k HDR 10bit - yes.
DV - no - DV does not licensed too many products.
Atmos, DTSX - yes.

u may also want to know it has auto framerate switching and can do full BDMV menus (access "extras, the making"), etc.
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post Sep 6 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 6 2019, 11:07 AM)
4k HDR 10bit - yes.
DV - no - DV does not licensed too many products.
Atmos, DTSX - yes.

u may also want to know it has auto framerate switching and can do full BDMV menus (access "extras, the making"), etc.
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thank you smile.gif

what will happen if i play a 4k DA file (example >80G 4k bluray files)? connection from this box -> receiver with DV -> TV with DA
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post Sep 6 2019, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 11:11 AM)
thank you smile.gif

what will happen if i play a 4k DA file (example >80G 4k bluray files)? connection from this box -> receiver with DV -> TV with DA
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before i attempt to answer, can u confirm the DA and DV are written correctly for each piece?

the receiver with DV would have DA, yr speakers set up for DA too?
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post Sep 6 2019, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 6 2019, 11:17 AM)
before i attempt to answer, can u confirm the DA and DV are written correctly for each piece?

the receiver with DV would have DA, yr speakers set up for  DA too?
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ops...i assume no issue to play any 4k files with Dolby Atmos since this box support it (connection from this box to receiver with Dolby Atmos)

what will happen if i play a 4k Dolby Vision file (example >80G 4k bluray files)? connection from this box -> receiver with Dolby Vision -> TV with Dolby Vision

thanks again
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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 11:24 AM)
ops...i assume no issue to play any 4k files with Dolby Atmos since this box support it (connection from this box to receiver with Dolby Atmos)

what will happen if i play a 4k Dolby Vision file (example >80G 4k bluray files)? connection from this box -> receiver with Dolby Vision -> TV with Dolby Vision

thanks again
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not sure what will happen as the box doesnt support for dolby vision.
my guess u might ended up black screen
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post Sep 6 2019, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 11:24 AM)
ops...i assume no issue to play any 4k files with Dolby Atmos since this box support it (connection from this box to receiver with Dolby Atmos)

what will happen if i play a 4k Dolby Vision file (example >80G 4k bluray files)? connection from this box -> receiver with Dolby Vision -> TV with Dolby Vision

thanks again
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4k hdr10 atmos will be fine.

i have little experience with DV files, can't comment.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 27 2019, 01:43 PM)
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this box will do DV, pay 3x price...
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4828768#bottom
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post Sep 6 2019, 12:46 PM

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any one try Dolby Vision file with this player? will it still able to play or black screen? some of the 4k bluray movie files already come with Dolby Vision....
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post Sep 6 2019, 12:49 PM

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by the way, the seller posted this player support Dolby Vision 4k.....

> [WTS] HIMEDIA Q10 Pro Quad Core Android 7 TV Box, 64 bits high performance Dolby Vision 4K
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...7510&hl=himedia

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 12:49 PM)
by the way, the seller posted this player support Dolby Vision 4k.....

> [WTS] HIMEDIA Q10 Pro Quad Core Android 7 TV Box, 64 bits high performance Dolby Vision 4K
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...7510&hl=himedia
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that was due to come confusion from himedia during the launch.

it has since been changed, no DV.

i will do some tests later... see what i find...
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post Sep 6 2019, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 12:46 PM)
any one try Dolby Vision file with this player? will it still able to play or black screen? some of the 4k bluray movie files already come with Dolby Vision....
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The DV file will play as HDR10 (its a standard that if either the source player or the display is not DV compliant the HDR10 layer will playback). No issues with playback, just u will not get DV.

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post Sep 6 2019, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 6 2019, 01:34 PM)
The DV file will play as HDR10 (its a standard that if either the source player or the display is not DV compliant the HDR10 layer will playback). No issues with playback, just u will not get DV.
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post Sep 6 2019, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Sep 6 2019, 12:46 PM)
any one try Dolby Vision file with this player? will it still able to play or black screen? some of the 4k bluray movie files already come with Dolby Vision....
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i ran some tests with below files on my equipment... 4k HDR (non Dolby vision) tv, 4k HDR (non-Atmos AVR).

user posted image

Q10pro (hdmi 2.0a) deliver HDR10, DDTrueHD - expected. Not blank screen or broken audio.

below explanation says it all. and i am quite sure Atmos works the same way - a layer of meta data on top of DD+ or DDtrueHD.

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A Dolby Vision title is encoded in 12-bit PQ (PQ: Perceptual Quantizer SMPTE ST2084 EOTF).
At the encoder stage level, the Dolby Vision signal is splitted into a base layer and an enhancement layer:
. Base layer = SDR or HDR10
. Enhancement layer = (12bit Dolby Vision – SDR) or (12bit Dolby Vision – 10bit HDR10)
Dolby Vision base layer and Dolby Vision enhancement layer are encoded by standard encoders like the 10-bit HEVC encoder.


At the decoder stage level (i.e., at the Q10 Pro), the 12-bit Dolby Vision is recombined.
12-bit Dolby Vision = base layer + enhancement layer (+ metadata)
This is carried out by the HiSilicon Hi3798C V200 SoC of the Q10 Pro.
http://armdevices.net/?s=dolby+vision+

At the TV stage level, the 12-bit Dolby Vision video signal (i.e., EDR Video + EDR Metadata) is processed by a Dolby Vision Display Management.
The Dolby Vision display manager is tuned for the target TV: it knows the maximum and minimum brightness, color gamut, and other characteristics. Metadata that accompanies the 12-bit Dolby Vision video signal carries information about the original system used to grade the content and any special information about the signal. Using this metadata, the Dolby Vision display manager intelligently transforms the 12-bit signal to produce the best possible output on the target TV with a 10-bit / 10-bit dither / 12-bit panel.
10-bit panel rendering < 10-bit dither panel rendering < 12-bit panel rendering
https://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?t...msg4844#msg4844

if u r shopping for a new TV, and i think u r... get a copy of some of those files on thumbdrive/HDD, take it to test on the shop TV USB playback.
those files work fine on my TV direct usb playback, get 4k HDR as expected.
my understanding is the TV need to be HDCP2.2, hdmi 2.0a compliant to deliver HDR10 and DV (need license).
need hmdi 2.0b for HLG.
many 4kHDR tv's cost rm3-4K, no DV... some people even say they are "fake"... u can shop for those 8-10K, i guess. biggrin.gif
latest hdmi2.1 with much higher bandwidth will take care of everything... sure.. if u have the $$$ to replace everything!
it's all about $$$... how fat yr wallet is for avantgarde tech.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Sep 6 2019, 07:38 PM

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