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2019 MacBook Pro





This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 10 2019, 07:15 AM


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I'm glad Apple has finally updated the MacBook Pro.

MacBook Pro 15" available with i9 processor!

Yup even the Retina display has True Tone technology. Look damn nice. 😜 jealous for me who is holding the 2017 13-inch touchbar model.

Hello....!!!

I'm still holding an ancient 2010 15-inch MBP leh...

Ni pun mau jeli kah...?

Haha time to let Apple earned again.... 😜

No more keyboard problem on this???

This post has been edited by JustcallmeLarry: Jul 13 2018, 03:18 AM

Waiting for the review about keyboard

This can be one of the fatal design

And maybe what might be the most anticipated update to the MacBook Pro—in light of class-action lawsuits and a new Apple repair program—Apple is introducing the third generation of its butterfly keyboard. The keyboard, with its low profile and short key travel, has been improved so that it is quieter than before. Whether the keyboard is more reliable and durable remains to be seen, and we’ll definitely make note of the keyboard experience in our upcoming review.

https://www.macworld.com/article/3289624/ma...ro-laptops.html

This post has been edited by Nauts: Jul 13 2018, 06:29 AM

Where is this from?

Apple SG education.

are you changing this round?

i'm aiming 13' non-touch bar version but unfortunately processor upgrade doesnt apply to this model.
13' touch bar version start with 7500, with only 4 core and 8gig ram(2133)

if i upgrade the ram to 16gig + i7 cpu, the price is RM9500, compare to 15'+i7+16+radeon whic only RM9800
why apple? i dun want 15' le

People say it's the same keyboard

The 15" more value compared to the 13"
But many go for 13" because of the form factor and size. Fits in bag nicely. So Apple know how to play the emotion and get more profits per 13" sold.

13" with ddr3 ram... duno why they decided that....

very itchy hand to do so. but won't get crazy. haha. already spent so much last year for my current MBP 13 touch bar with upgraded 16GB ram. not possible to change so fast.

actually macbook can easily use for 5 years or more.

yup. 13" always get lower spec. CP value is already lower than 15".

too bad form factor is my priority, so no choice must stick to 13".

no it is butterfly gen 3 keyboard, it supposed to fix the problems in the earlier gens.

yup, 13" is more expensive. if form factor is not the consideration, go for 15" more worth it. in fact, 15" screen is really nicer for work etc.

I am still using my Jurassic park MBP 2006 tho

Too bad they only updated the touch bar version. Was hoping an upgrade for the baseline model too.

this proves how reliable a macbook pro is.

oh my god!!
i was so close on buying an MBP this month and this came up!!
thanks Apple!!!

so anyone knows ETA of this new MBP in Malaysia market?

yeah, just the screen only barely see, but everything else working perfectly fine

next time u can use macrumor buying guide

just asked Switch staff, and expected mid August will be in Malaysia market

This post has been edited by Shiitake: Jul 13 2018, 02:59 PM

at least 1 to 2 months later only it will be available.

yup, i think any screen without retina, i cannot accept now.

i am following the macrumour website all the time.

how much have u spend for 16gig ram MBP 2017?

thanks guys..
i saw that Apple My also updated their web on new MBP..
now the price..huhuu
i wonder how much will it cost..

price already on the web bro.

walau the price still so high? Thought saw few tech youtuber say this year apple will launch something same price as macbook air???
Rm6508 for a laptop is really to much for me. Was hoping they will release a budget one that will be priced around rm4k...

i was thinking of buying one too,

but i always check mac rumors for buy guides

https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

So I configure the Mac I wanted and it's RM 14k+

15" i9
32GB RAM
SSD I put 256GB since I store files in the cloud these days

Shipping around 4-6 weeks. Really wanted to bite the bullet but a bit worried on the keyboard reports.

I believe it depends on what you do, if you are into heavy content creation or productivity, 6 core is best

Me personally the 4 core is good enough just for normal workload and casual use

Having 6 core is too much for me

Yes but from your linked post, it doesn't say it solves the dust and debris issue(dust easily getting into keyboard holes and making them faulty).

That's what the MBP 2017 users are complaning about,

but once i once configure 13' to 16GB ram, the price go up to ~8.3k,
vs 9.9k for 15' version

the price diff 1.5k will get

i5 vs i7
16gb 2133 ddr3 vs 16GB 2400 ddr4
13inch vs 15 inch
intel GPU vs Ati Radion GPU

worth it?

SGD2980 with free Beats Solo3 Wireless On-Ear Headphones (worth SGD398).

I sold the free beats solo3 wireless on-ear headphones at SGD200. So my net spent on my macbook pro 2017 13-inch touchbar 512GB 16GB RAM is SGD2780.

unlikely they will. since MBP no price changed, i dun think they will lower down the price for the base MBP without touchbar.

and seriously i dun see that apple will really release something that is lower in price.

wait for review from youtubers which it will come soon. but i am sure apple should have fixed it. apple has new recall programme to fix the 2016/2017 affected macbook pro.

given the apple's style, i dun see that they will ignore this problem while they are coming out new gen of keyboard and again need to recall problematic products again especially for known problems. likely that they have fixed it.

if need 16GB ram, i think directly go for 15inch better since it has it default.

if u are not really running VM, actually 8GB is good enough. but of course if budget is not a concern, good to have more RAM for future proof.

personally, if i can choose again, i may upgrade my 2017 MBP 13 TB from i5 to i7 instead of upgrading to 16GB ram.

Ever since I got my iPad, I really enjoyed typing on the on-screen keyboard - no mechanical parts, no sharp keyboard sound, and no need to worry about keyboard issues plaguing the current MBP.

I really hope they would redesigned the MBP with a full-fledged on-screen keyboard instead of the half-baked TouchBar. Maybe 2020 perhaps...?

why? do u think cpu i5>i7 is more importain than 8gb>16gb

currently i'm using 4gb MBA, i dun have much complain about cpu speed, but when i open a few more program, i can feel the bottle neck for my mb are the 4GB memory, so my next purchase must want to have a lot of RAM.

I’m about to buy the existing base spec 15”. Worth to wait for the new version?

how much? still got stock?

I am asking whether to wait for 2018 version or just the old version.

2018 version is far better of course. Its really worth of wait just for the intel coffee lake cpu

You'll notice a huge improve going from 4gb to 8gb rather than 8gb to 16gb.

Nowadays, the sweet spot for ram is 8gb. Like he said, 16gb is of course better for future proof.

I will think that i7 can make more difference for me.

4GB ram is known to be below minimum requirement. no matter what system. one will feel slow and not enough. 8GB is the minimum.

this one all thanks to bloody SIRIM lar...!

my top spec 2017 15" MBP haven't 6 month, Apple already released a 6 core i9 32GB ram version...damn, I could have got this instead

the new keyboard only makes typing more quiet, didnt solve the sticky issue. Apple themselves had confirmed on this

id say go for the new one. its worth it. at least 40% performance increase from gen 7 to gen 8 intel.

Same here super sad.

u're buying late, prev mbp release on June 5, 2017

i bought my 13-ich MBP 2017 on july 20, 2017. so it is still not too bad which it is one year ago.

yup.

so far my 2017 one year old MBP i have no issue with the keyboard yet. (i am using keyboard protector)

now i wonder whether 2017 or 2018 keyboard will be given for the keyboard replacement program

i too found most of the sources saying that 3rd gen butterfly keyboard is only quieter dint actually fix the issue but until i saw this from ifixit, most of them judging too quickly without going deeper as usual

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17570538...esistant-ifixit

That's certainly good news, probably still need to wait for reviews from tech youtubers

the new design should protect against debris but if dust somehow ever gets inside, even more harder to take out

i thought so at first place, but it seems to be kinda easy still as its not fully sealed around the mechanism

watch 1:08


This post has been edited by jackiez: Jul 14 2018, 12:10 PM

Repair program all the while applies to 2017 MBP.

https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-serv...nd-macbook-pro/

yes i mean whether scd gen or new third gen butterfly keyboard will be given to replace the faulty one for this program.

This is for the “2017 or 2018” part of ur qns.

2018 obviously it depends on if the same issues are faced by 2018 users. I dun see that Apple will announce a repair program immediately on their newly refresh products.

But my point is that I do not see that after Apple launch the repair program again they expect to continue service the same old keyboard multiple times for the same machine. If the replacement program is not going to fix the problem, they will lose a lot of time and money for the continuous replacements even for the newly refresh 2018 MBP.

I would think that why apple does not explicitly address this keyboard issue even in the 3rd gen now. It could be due to the fact that this only affects small percentage of their users thus they do not feel it is crucial to fix it. Else, I could not understand why Apple does not fix it which they are definitely capable in doing so.

This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 14 2018, 01:37 PM

Wondering can I send in to replace the keyboard although now don't have any issues yet?

Right, don't see this as a viable long term solution

From what I know is they are under lawsuit and can't suddenly just come out with a new product and say they fixed the issue. It's disappointing to see they marketed a flaw product, yet claim it to be the best given at that price point

u can send for check up la, but if no issue after examined by them of course no replacement, as mentioned only small percentage of keyboard affected

also if the keyboard prob not that serious, they will use fix the particular keypad, fair enough

This post has been edited by jackiez: Jul 14 2018, 03:27 PM

It is bad indeed. However, given that one is in Apple ecosystem, at least you can be assured that Apple will address problems even after warranty. I think this is more important. There were existing cases that Apple is even Replacing a more than 5 years old MacBook Pro with the latest model for free.

This post has been edited by westlife: Jul 14 2018, 04:38 PM

I can foresee it takes min one more year of release of updated MacBook Pro. MacBook Pro sales figure is Super pathetic comparing to iphone. I dun think Apple will refresh the design so soon. It is not their style of direction for MacBook lineup.

that's true however we only have Apple Resellers in Malaysia where there are times they try to push away their responsibility (in the case of iPhone users). If only we can have Apple store itself here, story might be different. Although there are resellers that fully provide after sales services that are equal to Apple but I've never come across one, only heard it from other users

Yes, u are rite. If given a choice, I would prefer to do whatever service at actual Apple store instead of authorised dealer.

lucky my Apple products are all from lion city. 😜

i still hoping for modular mac mini / mac book / mac pro...

2008 - Uni MBP...
2012 - Retina MBP...
2016 - TouchBar MBP...
2020 - TouchScreen Keyboard MBP....???

Not too far fetch eh...?

4 years what can ssd the trend. Now it is 2018. Like I said, minimum one more update before design change.

does not seem like Apple is going to upgrade the MAC mini.

Same like iPad mini, I have been waiting for it to be updated, again no chance.

How come apple are forcing you to get the touch bar models?? No new non touchbar model for 13" 2018???

Dun have. The strategy is clear. One should buy the MBP TB only now.

Probably not, Apple has said if you want touchscreen there's iOS.

lol, good luck with their sales.

is it possible to bank transfer BTO from the malaysia apple store? i only have debit card which means 5k daily limit

I think you misunderstood me...

I'm not referring to the real touchscreen display where SJ says your hands' gonna fall off after use...

I'm referring to the touch screen input where the current touch bar and keyboard area is... SJ said touch surfaces want to be HORIZONTAL... the TouchBar and the keyboard surface area is where touch screen keyboard comes into perfection - no longer have to worry about dust going into keyboard gaps or spoiled keys, no longer have to worry about how loud you type...


Have you ever watch Star Trek...?

This post has been edited by Eithanius: Jul 14 2018, 10:36 PM

ahh i see.

keyboard sometimes problem.. hopefully no more lar in the new one.

touch screen keyboard only good for those who type with needed look at the key, for those who type without looking and solely depend on dot on <F> and <G> will be difficult for them to use as they can't 'feel' the key. Some more hitting on the flat surface while typing gonna hurt ur finger more.

just reallze <ALT+S> in windows doesn't work when reply a forum in LYN.

what is the replacement <ALT+S> send shortcut for Mac OS in safari?

I prefer to have faceID in Mac for login/password which are more practical than iPhone X. Something like windows hello

Then you better start practicing your keyboard skills on the ipad without looking....

ipad i use split keyboard and type with thumb only
nobody can type without looking using flat surface kb

I’m getting the hang of it...

Since Apple updated the processor, is the 2015 MBP still worth it? Considering it's still selling for RM8xxx at this point

totally not worth it. the increase in speed is significant for 2018.

2015
if you are talking about 13-inch retina macbook pro, it is using broadwell (5th gen) processor. For 15-inch it is using Haswell (4th gen) processor.

2018
It is using Coffeelake (8th gen) processor. The extra to pay for a macbook pro on this will definitely be worthwhile.
not to mention other hardware changes such as the SSD (a lot faster read/write speed), display (slimmer bezels and true tone), speaker (a lot better), touchpad (bigger), graphic (a lot better, even for integrated one on 13-inch, dedicated one is also a lot better for 15-inch) and many many many more.

8th gen intel coffee lake is so much better now with additional cores.

So yeah, its better to get the lastest gen for future proof

no... processor upgrade each generation definitely is biggest upgrade of macbook pro...

if you no need the processing power... the efficiency and battery life , techonology alone is worth everything than the processing power...

unless is RM5k or below... then u can consider it la... no no for rm 8k...