Astro Version 13A, All about Astro Malaysia offerings
Astro Version 13A, All about Astro Malaysia offerings
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Sep 29 2019, 01:06 PM
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nice ... thx for the pics
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Oct 1 2019, 12:47 AM
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Oct 1 2019, 01:49 AM
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Why is local tv channels like tv1/2/4 ntv 7 (those FTA channels) looks like crap on Astro, but very good picture quality on DTV?
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Oct 1 2019, 01:59 AM
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Oct 1 2019, 05:55 AM
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Oct 1 2019, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Sep 29 2019, 12:17 PM) Depends on the provider. Likely when showing F1 it will show Fox Sports logo. In any case, they just bundle every 4K broadcast under the Astro UHD bannerQUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Oct 1 2019, 05:55 AM) DTV is encoded straight from the source by the broadcasters themselves, be it RTM or Media Prima. For SD on Astro meanwhile, they usually take the broadcast, and re-encode them with a lower bitrate and resolution. IIRC astro's SD channel are slightly above 360p only in terms of resolution, which is why it looks so shitty compared to DTV which are usually 480pThis post has been edited by linkinstreet: Oct 1 2019, 07:14 AM |
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Oct 1 2019, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 1 2019, 07:10 AM) Depends on the provider. Likely when showing F1 it will show Fox Sports logo. In any case, they just bundle every 4K broadcast under the Astro UHD banner Wow, thanks for your explanation, didn’t realize that DTV have better video quality than AstroDTV is encoded straight from the source by the broadcasters themselves, be it RTM or Media Prima. For SD on Astro meanwhile, they usually take the broadcast, and re-encode them with a lower bitrate and resolution. IIRC astro's SD channel are slightly above 360p only in terms of resolution, which is why it looks so shitty compared to DTV which are usually 480p Feels like astro is ripping us off with this, paid Astro, get lower than FTA DTV quality This post has been edited by yongtjunkit: Oct 1 2019, 08:01 AM |
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Oct 1 2019, 09:50 AM
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Oct 1 2019, 10:30 AM
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Oct 1 2019, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Oct 1 2019, 07:43 AM) Wow, thanks for your explanation, didn’t realize that DTV have better video quality than Astro Tokae Astro SUPER terkenal dgn K E D E K U T !Feels like astro is ripping us off with this, paid Astro, get lower than FTA DTV quality Like sugarcane, press once, then dip in water press for few times again and again ! This post has been edited by nag: Oct 1 2019, 11:26 AM |
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Oct 1 2019, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ Oct 1 2019, 07:43 AM) Wow, thanks for your explanation, didn’t realize that DTV have better video quality than Astro technically it was okay when we are all using CRT + RCA connections. But nowadays as we move on to HD, Astro thought it's a good idea to keep the old output spec in the name of "compatibility". To makes matters worse, every SD channel is 4:3, no matter what the source aspect ratio is, and if the source is 16:9, they "helpfully" added black bars as well, making the picture which is already in a lower resolution much smaller than it really is.Feels like astro is ripping us off with this, paid Astro, get lower than FTA DTV quality |
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Oct 1 2019, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 1 2019, 02:21 PM) technically it was okay when we are all using CRT + RCA connections. But nowadays as we move on to HD, Astro thought it's a good idea to keep the old output spec in the name of "compatibility". To makes matters worse, every SD channel is 4:3, no matter what the source aspect ratio is, and if the source is 16:9, they "helpfully" added black bars as well, making the picture which is already in a lower resolution much smaller than it really is. Astro has removed the letterbox on almost all of its SD channels for quite some time already. The SD channels itself is technically still in 4:3, but they make it fit to screen so that letterbox won't be shown. And yes, Astro still uses MPEG2 4:3 for its SD channels so that legacy Astro boxes can still be used, which supports only the older DVB-S standard and MPEG2 video codec. Previously there are complaints from some legacy STB users whereby if the SD channel video itself is in native 16:9 aspect ratio, it will display only a black screen and audio only. Presumably is due to compatibility issue on the legacy boxes as it "doesn't recognise" or "don't support" 16:9 video. So they got to transmit it in 4:3 from their side, but remove the letterbox so that no black bars will be shown. Meanwhile, there are still a handful SD channels on Astro that still did not remove the letterbox, such as TVB Entertainment (ch313), all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328), CNN (ch511), and others. However, all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328) are found to be the only SD channels on Astro that uses MPEG4 video codec with HE-AAC audio codec. These channels does not appear on the channel list for legacy Astro boxes. |
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Oct 1 2019, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 1 2019, 02:48 PM) Astro has removed the letterbox on almost all of its SD channels for quite some time already. The SD channels itself is technically still in 4:3, but they make it fit to screen so that letterbox won't be shown. What about those HD channels? Those channels are transmitted in mpeg 4? And compared to DTV FTA HD, DTV FTA still better?And yes, Astro still uses MPEG2 4:3 for its SD channels so that legacy Astro boxes can still be used, which supports only the older DVB-S standard and MPEG2 video codec. Previously there are complaints from some legacy STB users whereby if the SD channel video itself is in native 16:9 aspect ratio, it will display only a black screen and audio only. Presumably is due to compatibility issue on the legacy boxes as it "doesn't recognise" or "don't support" 16:9 video. So they got to transmit it in 4:3 from their side, but remove the letterbox so that no black bars will be shown. Meanwhile, there are still a handful SD channels on Astro that still did not remove the letterbox, such as TVB Entertainment (ch313), all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328), CNN (ch511), and others. However, all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328) are found to be the only SD channels on Astro that uses MPEG4 video codec with HE-AAC audio codec. These channels does not appear on the channel list for legacy Astro boxes. |
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Oct 1 2019, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 1 2019, 02:48 PM) Astro has removed the letterbox on almost all of its SD channels for quite some time already. The SD channels itself is technically still in 4:3, but they make it fit to screen so that letterbox won't be shown. And yes, Astro still uses MPEG2 4:3 for its SD channels so that legacy Astro boxes can still be used, which supports only the older DVB-S standard and MPEG2 video codec. Previously there are complaints from some legacy STB users whereby if the SD channel video itself is in native 16:9 aspect ratio, it will display only a black screen and audio only. Presumably is due to compatibility issue on the legacy boxes as it "doesn't recognise" or "don't support" 16:9 video. So they got to transmit it in 4:3 from their side, but remove the letterbox so that no black bars will be shown. Meanwhile, there are still a handful SD channels on Astro that still did not remove the letterbox, such as TVB Entertainment (ch313), all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328), CNN (ch511), and others. However, all Astro AOD (SD) channels, Asian Action Channel (ch327) and TVB Classic Movies (ch328) are found to be the only SD channels on Astro that uses MPEG4 video codec with HE-AAC audio codec. These channels does not appear on the channel list for legacy Astro boxes. ![]() ![]() ![]() just stillposting. |
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Oct 1 2019, 06:25 PM
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Oct 1 2019, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Oct 1 2019, 06:25 PM) Can verify if this is the India feed or Asia Pacific feed? As in are there subtitles and are the promos with Asia times or India time? Colors Tamil HD is not original version,more serials added,movies, and specials have been removed,I guess the same will apply to Colors Hindi |
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Oct 1 2019, 07:46 PM
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Just lurking around the new Hindi channel..
Seems have English subtitles... And if I see the Astro guide.. have movies too (I assume) at noon & late night.. |
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Oct 1 2019, 09:02 PM
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Oct 1 2019, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(chuppachop @ Oct 1 2019, 06:25 PM) Can verify if this is the India feed or Asia Pacific feed? As in are there subtitles and are the promos with Asia times or India time? QUOTE(smileguy @ Oct 1 2019, 06:55 PM) Colors Tamil HD is not original version,more serials added,movies, and specials have been removed,I guess the same will apply to Colors Hindi ![]() ![]() As you can see, not only this is "Malaysia feed", but it is an exclusive "Astro feed" with the channel number indicated there. Also, the person who does the voiceover, saying the programme name, day and time, has a strong Indian accent (similar like the ones you listen from the Indian channels from Videocon d2h). It doesn't sounds like Malaysian Indian accent to me. So, there's a possibility that the advertisement might be taken originally from India's Colors Hindi channel, and then refer to the picture attach above, they just change day and time to follow Astro Malaysia one. |
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Oct 1 2019, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(joshhd @ Oct 1 2019, 10:01 PM) ![]() ![]() As you can see, not only this is "Malaysia feed", but it is an exclusive "Astro feed" with the channel number indicated there. Also, the person who does the voiceover, saying the programme name, day and time, has a strong Indian accent (similar like the ones you listen from the Indian channels from Videocon d2h). It doesn't sounds like Malaysian Indian accent to me. So, there's a possibility that the advertisement might be taken originally from India's Colors Hindi channel, and then refer to the picture attach above, they just change day and time to follow Astro Malaysia one. |
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