Introduction: GRAB mistakes that I did

so when I started off doing grab, i remembered just to test the water, I did grab only for 3 days the first week. then gradually I increased the number of days, but I still try to limit my working days. if possible at least 1 week, i must rest for 1 day. usually ill take 2 days off.

so during the first month, or specifically the first 7 weeks I did GRAB, here are the mistakes that I did:

1. Everyday I spent rm20~rm30 covering up for tolls of my passenger!

*when I did uber, toll was inclusive in the fare. so when I started doing grab, imagine everyday I "subsidized" my riders for their tolll. everyday my poket bocor rm20~rm30 covering for their tolls, and they know they had to pay for tolls, but nobody even mentioned it to me. not even once! so in the end, I calculated my loss here about roughly rm500~rm700 those first 7 weeks...

2. I was on a flexi plan instead of Hourly Guarantee

*so I only learned about the existence of HG the moment I first started this thread, imagine my noobness lol...

when I was still on flexi, everyay I received jobs and I noticed that GRAB fare is much lower than uber. but the only thing that I can say is better than uber is grab has a policy of rm5 minimum fare. when doing uber, I was getting as low as 20 cents per trips (of course they reimburse the full amount later but that takes times, and my wallet is as empty as they can be. my acct was already negative at taht time, I had to borrow money from sister...)

but I noticed in incentive tab, theres incentive of cashabck from low 10% to highest 20% IF i get to drop riders as specific part at klia1 and klia 2 dafuq... imagine me doing flexi grab for 7 weeks, dropping people off at klia, and not even once those klia/klia2 cashback incentive qualified tab ever increased. it kept staying at 0... dafuq?!

I remembered before this when reading forums or from hearsay, grab players always says "main insentif, main insentif, etc etc..."

but as u guys can deduce now, from my first 7 weeks of doing grab, I have no idea how this incentive system works, probably because i never get any... and even if I get max incentive of 20% cashback from klia, imagine if I make a steady rm200~rm300 back then, my cashback would only be rm20~rm40++ every week PROVIDED IF I actually scored it, in which case, I never did...

so imagine the depression I was having at this time, with lower fare than uber, almost non existent incentives, my debt stacking up, my maxis main number already barred cuz I havent paid bills for 2 months, (I have that smartphone maxisone oackage so i am paying rm300+ per month), my house bill is overdue 1 month even tho I just rented the place for 3 months, and to top it off, back then my income was a steady rm500+ nett profit working my ass off from 7am till 11pm, 6 days a week...

imagine me giving fake smiles to riders saying i must be making lots of money doing grab full time, but only I know the truth that I only can barely make rm1500 every month! and my meals everyday is below pathetic! those gardenia bread are staple food.

I remembered 1 night I actually lost it, while eating my gradenia with leftover mineral water in my car, I just started crying for a long time. I was sobbing like a child that lost his favorite toy. I was totally heartbroken and helpless. That night was the night I hit rock bottom, when I decided this is it... theres no future for me doing grab.

thats about 2 or 3 nights before I opened this thread. I stopped doing grab for a couple days after that night. I had already lost my will.

When I hang out having coffee in Coffee bean Cyberjaya with a client of mine I saw the same Grab Car driver picking up and dropping off passenger 4 times within less than 60 minutes.

I Got Back Up Again

after I opened this thread, I saw the usual /k/ bs in here as well, thats totally normal. then some of the sifus here actually started asking me questions that I have no answers to, such as the jargons they used: MP/UP/P and HG, Time Blocs and Incentives etc etc

with more questions being asked at me, more questions arose from their questions to me in my head, so I started researching again and kept asking in here, then the sifus 1 by 1 started helping me (probably they realized I wasnt exaggerating and wasnt kidding about my bad predicament... and probably they realized at taht time I really didnt know anything, which was true lol)

everyone is still adamant talking about incentives and calculating and showing their spreadsheets of making rm20~rm30 clean profit per hour (whilst I was making clean rm20+ profits every night before bed working from 7am till 11pm everyday, seriously, imagine how I was feeling back then... its like these sifus are throwing salt in my gaping wound, only thing is they dun realized theyre doing it lol)

So I decided. Im gonna play whatever games these sifus are playing. Im gonna try this and give grab 1 more chance. I started researching HG. the next morning I called grab customer service. the person who answered my call was super helpful (probably because it was so early in the morning), he explained to me everything that is to know about HG. and he kept scolding me too, telling me adamantly and specifically that FLEXI plan is for PART TIMER who works according to their mood, while HOURLY GUARANTEE is for FULL TIMER! (imagine how dumbfounded i was ahahaha)... so the guy arranged for my transfer to HG from flexi, but he told me this part is most important:

** In order to opt in to HG from FLEXI, you must do the application between monday~wednesday every week before 12pm on wednesday. after that the application to transfer for that week is closed, and then you need to wait for next week.

IF your application is a SUCCESS, it will only happen on FRIDAY of that same week, BUT it wont be activated yet in your grab driver apps that you have changed to HG. it will still remain as flexi. you will only have your HG started of the following week on MONDAY!

but he also told me, in order to opt in to HG, GRAB HQ will do assessment to your behavior whether youre qualified to opt in to HG or not. they will assess you from your acceptance rating, your activeness (days youre working every week), and your cancellation rate. lastly they will see your star ranking, it must be above 4.8 or was it 4.7? I forgot...

so after I learned about that, I opted to change to HG. to make sure I pass their test, I kept doing what Ive been doing kaw kaw that particular week even tho im still eating gardenia, im still making about rm20~rm30 nett profit everyday, I kept on going for that 1 last week!

so next monday arrives, and I jumped in joy and I remembered shouting happiliy that I got my status changed to HG now haha

(but I didnt start wrking immediately that monday. I took another day off and decided im gonna do more homework and learn more about grabs from reading the official grab thread that someone directed me to read in this forum. I did exactly that!)

Dear Bro,

I feel sad and sorry for the situation you are facing right now. I honestly quite skeptical if someone can make good income doing Grab for full time (some even relying from Grab income to pay living cost, car loan, car maintenance, etc)
With the price hike and competition right now I would say very tough for someone to rely only on Grab.
If I were you, I will be very friendly with passenger and start having quality conversation which might lead to full time employment (we hire one of our staff for customer service because one manager ride his car and have a good conversation, found out he actually in the middle of looking for job, expecting baby in few months, used to work in call centre, etc)
- Obviously not by interviewing your passenger but more to casual discussion to widen your network and open new opportunity and knowledge for you.
If you feel your passenger not interested to have a chat or even annoyed you need to stop and not discussing it further.
- You might try offer personal chauffeur to tourist or someone visiting Malaysia on daily rate or flat rate (calculate it wisely ofcourse)
- Ask your passenger who use your personal chauffeur service to recommend to his/her family friend or relative to contact you if they want to visit Malaysia. even if they need bigger car you can rent the car.
- Make a personal business card so you can pass it incase your passenger need you in the future

It's good for you to Grab, but you will not have the benefits of full time employment. moreover the risk is quite high if anything happen to you or your vehicle.
- What if you fall sick
- What if your car need to do major maintenance
- What if your car involve in accident and unable to GRAB
you will have no income, and yet expenses is a must.

Good luck and keep fighting bro

HG started!

so the first week of doing HG, I only worked 4 days taht week. nothing changes. I still carry home about rm20~rm30 everyday nett profit. on good days ill get slightly above rm50 back home if i get jobs at sending people to klia/klia 2...

then I doubted myself again. nothing has changed... wtf? is this it for me?
then I started to get curious the following week, I looked at my history and past earning from last week, then I SAW IT!!!

on those days that I brought home rm20~rm30 home every night, I realized I have received incentives! everyday I earned rm50++ from incentives! so from those 4 days of working, I earned rm200++ from incentives! WOW!!!

I started to smile then. I see what the sifus are talking about! so these are the LEGENDARY INCENTIVES that everyone has been talking about, that I first had the taste of!

so finally, that first week of doing HG, I started seeing a dim lightt at the end of the tunnel. before this, I got rm150++ per week, now im earning 350++ per week. im gonna learn more of this!

I started using my weekend to absorb as much information as I can, religiously while I kept bothering the sifus here with super noobish questions (sorry sifus!)

so yeah, that was my first week. My 2nd week, I did better! and I just realized something at this time...

back when I was doing FLEXI, grab kept throwing me with short distance jobs, but what I wanted was long distance jobs! thats why I kept taking so little money back home every night.

now, after I opted to HG, I started getting lots of jobs! like, really, seriously lots more jobs! from low fare to long distance jobs! before this, id be lucky to get even 6 or 7 jobs everyday. now im getting lots more!

then I realized how much of a jackass GRAB was being to me. then I remembered reading in some threads, that GRAB actually gamed their drivers with ratings/bans and even jobs... grab will throw long distance jobs to those full time HG drivers so they cant profit max from HG etc etc...

so tahts it. thats the trick. the moment I opted to HG, GRAB started spamming me with 3 or 4 times more jobs than when I was doing FLEXI! waht an asshole! AHAHHAHA

ok, entering 2nd week, Ive came to terms taht GRAB had actually farked me upside down the first 7 weeks. cuz im flexi, they threw me short distance jobs. GG Grabs... so after realizeing this, and realizing im getting more jobs now, come 2nd week, ive managed to get more jobs done, ive understood their game, and ive pretty much learned some of the do's and dont's now... lol

btw, my 2nd week of doing HG was last week aka election week. my first week of doing HG, I was earning rm500++ nett worth inclusive incentive. as for this 2nd week, let me upload this picture:

that is my weekly statement of the 2nd week im doing HG! yes, you read that right. only 2nd week!
and taht amount is only the collected money that is "registered" on GRAB!

theres also unbilled money as well from sedekah from generous riders. one time i was having a good chat with this old lady and her husband from usa and she enjoyed our chat, she actually donated rm100 to me! (she just took the money without looking, close her eyes and put it in my hand! she doesnt wanna know how much she was getting from her purse!). etc etc...

so, my total earnings from that particular week is way higher than the rm1.7k I originally stated, I jsut realized... hmm, my bad

this amount hasnt included amount in grabpay payment yet amounting to rm200+ just on wednesday alone! theres also unadded amount from incentive yet in here btw! now that I think back, I might have scored around rm2k or more during that 2nd week of doing HG. hmm... In any case, I might have messed up some numbers from my general recollections of how much i actually earned, so I apologized fr that! maybe I was too excited to tell you guys the good news, and I was jsut trying to recall everything off the top of my head!

btw this week is my 3rd week doing HG!

in any case, to the guy that I asked me how is my daily schedule now, this is what im doing currently:

1. I take it as my first daily quest, to obtain rm60 for FUEL ONLY. I set that money aside as soon as I get them. I will not exceed rm60 in fuel everyday!

2. DO NOT TOUCH the money in cash wallet now matter what! (I only use those money to topup my grab wallet)

3. I make sure everyday I earn minimum nett profit rm100 (already minus fuel). If I spend some money on toll, then ill do more jobs to exceed rm100 again for that day! after I hit rm100 daily target, I will check the time, if its not 9pm yet, ill keep going till I get rm150 nett profit! (I will take my last job if its past 8:50pm or something...)

4. Once I reached home, Ill calculate my earnings. If it doesnt exceed rm150, ONLY THEN will I withdraw the money from cash wallet to topup my cash earning so it become rm150 for that day!

5. Chasing for jobs in hotspot area is fine, but heres a trick: DO NOT USE TOLL ROAD! the point is to get jobs along the way! if you use toll road, what if you already pay for toll then suddenly u got an rm5 job that requires you to exit the highway? worse, what if u had to make a u-turn? then deficit already... If u dun accept, ur AR will be affected. not to mention your CR... so my tip is, lets say ure in a cold spot, and u wanna move to subang for example that is red hot atm, set your waze to go there, but go to routes, and choose the one that doesnt go thru toll. chances are, within 5 minutes of driving to ur destination, u will get a job. just accept whatever job that is handed to you!

6. I learned the hard way that everyday, after 4pm, KL is a nightmare. so today is the first time, I earned rm150 nett profit by 6.30pm!!! trick is, after my ordeal of ragequitting early yesterday and earning only rm30+ after stuck in traffic jam in kl from morning till efternoon lol what I did was, today I became selective. Any job that headed towards KL, I mati-mati tak mau accept hahaha. It was totally worth it! today I didnt enter KL at all and I finish much faster and consumed much less fuel! (I only spent rm50 on fuel today!)

7. ATM, dont just do HG even if youre on the scheme! do both flexi and HG, but decide carefully where you wanna go and when to avoid certain places. grab has so many drivers now, that competition is crazy! you are in no position to be choosy.

8. I should probably add that im doing this grab full time atm, and I started before 7am and my deadline is 9pm everyday. I stopped at 9 cuz usually itll take me sometimes 1 hour to go back to my place.

ps: this is only my 3rd week of doing HG. as i move farther down this line, and learn more stuff, ill keep updating my progress and sharing whatever I can! THANK YOU VERY MUCH again to all the sifus taht helped me stood back up after I fell down! I owe you guys so much, you have no idea! Also I should probably mention that im only doing grab full time atm, because I will have a full time job starting august or september, maybe as early as july, who knows. Im just doing this grab to fill in the void before my full time job started! (btw my full time job I will earn less than I can potentially earn if I do grab full time lol. so Ill probably still do grab part time in the future!)

This post has been edited by Artak: May 16 2018, 10:19 PM

Haha this is pretty much so MLM except small scale unlike amway

I been approached by plenty of amwayers but my answer 2 them is NO because i not able 2 sembah their products sadly but i will never deny there are successful amwayers out there some after 40 retired happily hahahaha

As 4 the 3 questions just pray very hard to GOD for protection lorh😄😄😅😅🙌🙌🙏🙏

happy for you TS as now you are one of the happy Grab driver.
with steady income to settle the debt was dragged weeks and months, i can feel you, so much relief of burdens on your shoulder all these while..

also would like to thank you personally as I also just joined Grab not long ago, reading at your thread brings a lot of questions in my mind got unlocked automatically.. hope for your success and be safe on the road all the time.. cheers

This crap very crap

Today was forced 2 illegal turn left from middle lane because ping condo is just next the road but with cement blocks in the middle

Thks goodness the car gave way and not misinteprating that i want 2 potong his jalan

Next time better ignore even if that block hour i still no job yet

This post has been edited by skylinelover: May 18 2018, 09:01 PM

Haha like chariots of fire movie your story😄😄😁😁but useful 4 other upcoming kayuh kings👍👍👍👍

This is my daily dinner taking after end shift



All above RM20 easily😆😆More than your net profit✌✌

Who say grab kayuh is bad...actually its great bcuz you are serving big communities from different backgrounds...for me its not a job...its the big sense of satisfactory 2 servicing communities hahahaha

This post has been edited by skylinelover: May 18 2018, 09:13 PM

damn what the hell is that?! looks awesome!!!
btw, today I started out early, but in just a couple hours i changed my mind and ddecided ill just to enuf to refuel my tank to the max today haha. in anycase, today I kept looking at grab map, theres so few red spots. and even the green spots are scattered around. is it slow day today?

Mini claypot rice

Haha obviously save your strength better

This post has been edited by skylinelover: May 20 2018, 03:34 AM

may I know the official grab link for "learn more about grabs from reading the official grab thread that someone directed me to read in this forum" ?

This post has been edited by propusers: May 20 2018, 03:49 PM

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4478891

have fun!

glad to hear that your earning increase, i hope your financial situation can be improve in the future

I got grab kaki keep promoting their amway

And i keep rejecting their offer

They really are financially free based on their report😄😄😄👏👏👏

They drive grab just 2 search more downline hahahaha

your sharing is encouraging.
please keep sharing your grab experience...