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TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM, updated 7y ago

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first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Apr 24 2018, 04:06 PM)
What about your incentive? I can get at least RM 500 in incentives every week. My expenses just use the cash that I got from previous day.
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ive never gotten even one incentives yet since i start. most of the incentives are klia to and fro. i have not taken a single rider to klia/klia 2 yet and i dont think waiting all day over there is a good idea too, because too many other drivers waiting as well. itll affect my overall daily earning if i jsut wait and dont earn anything.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Apr 24 2018, 04:06 PM)
What about your incentive? I can get at least RM 500 in incentives every week. My expenses just use the cash that I got from previous day.
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what kind of incentive are u getting? where do u usually wait for riders? mind sharing some tips? even if just rm500 clean profits from incentive every week is enuf for me to get by the month, unfortunately atm, i have not gotten even 1 incentives done, like the grab share, kila etc. ..
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Apr 24 2018, 04:03 PM)
I  have a friend who also a GRAB driver because his employer did not pay him for 5 months. He told me also 'tak untung...' just enough to survive only. Sorry no tips from me.
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hes probably in same boat as me... someone told me grab is bad ever since they telan uber. now no competition, and they have lots of riders already.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(doncab @ Apr 24 2018, 04:43 PM)
keyword : INCENTIVE

how to maximize the incentive? that's another story...

tips : nearby LRT
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any lrt?
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 24 2018, 05:00 PM)
U work about 11-12 hrs per day, gross income per day is RM250, income per hour is RM20+

There is something wrong with your driving area, try move to hotspot or high demand area.

Another thing is, try drive early in the morning by incentive, morning and evening peak hour is the best time to maximize income and higher possibility to get higher surge.

I'm doing part time can get gross around RM30-40 per hour at nearby city area btw.

Your car fuel consumption is very high too, eating your cost about 40% of your net income. Myself is around 20% using Myvi.
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ahh is that what you think? so rm250 per day is abnormally low then? I drive a saga blm. maybe its high because I kept moving around to chase the ever changing hotspot. any advice on which area I should stick with?
also, what do u mean by drive early for incentive if you dont mind telling me? since a few weeks ago, only incentive bonus that is active in my grab acct is grabshare 15 trips, and kila/klia trip. no other incentive. ive heard people saying that there are incentive for a certain cumulative trips u do everyday, but I dont think I have that in my menu of active incentive.

This post has been edited by Artak: Apr 24 2018, 01:16 PM
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(montyashley80 @ Apr 24 2018, 05:17 PM)
wow did not know its that bad...now should be even worse since no more uber to jump ship to??!!!  console.gif
but some driver that i take are happy with the pay but i did not ask them how much they make la..or maybe they are part time only...
in this case..is it better to get a full time job in the office? at least stable income every month??
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I guess, coming from a full time grab driver thats been having it rough, its best if u get a full time job elsewhere - then do grab as side income.
personally Im falling behind on every monthly commitment I have. and im at a loss to how I can earn more to service my car as well. Im worried...
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:34 PM

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could really use more input. sigh...
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post Apr 24 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ Apr 24 2018, 05:57 PM)
If you chase GS then ur Flexi I assume? Flexi got cashback daily ie: complete 20trips get 20% back. PLease correct me if I'm wrong.

Try Opt in HG? Ur 3months senior, I'm sure you know HG and Flexi. Anyway, keep ur GW high to fish for jerung (RM20 - 50). Your AR above 80%?  U sapu all? Area? KL? MOnt Kiara, Damansara, all those rich + expat stay? It could be location not hot enough.

Pray for rain and the area ur in got red hot? If you can be in a red area with jam and rain but still managed to Pu rider and drop them using inside road in PJ... The fare is double or more...

Anyway... I might teaching u ajaran sesat again...  doh.gif
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OMG believe it or not I have no idea at all of those jargons you guys are using sweat.gif
that explain why i might not be making enuf. im totally new at this omg!

and nope i have no idea what is flexi, hourly guarantee, PU etc etc... ever since I started I jsut hantam accept every call I receive and take passengers whether the fare is high or low. is that where im doing wrong?

u guys told me RM9 and above is counter productive and all these times I thought those are what Im aiming for? rclxub.gif

Oh lord... I might have been doing this wrong since the start...
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post Apr 24 2018, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 24 2018, 06:08 PM)
Go and read the main thread first page, it has a blog and u can opt in Hourly Guarantee (HG) by filling form.

To meet the requirement for HG, u need AR 80% daily.
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omg I dunno about this HG thing! seriously!
can you please show me to the main thread ?
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post Apr 24 2018, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(budi1413 @ Apr 24 2018, 08:53 PM)
what car are you driving?
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saga BLM.

omg I seriously have no idea about most of these stuffs. I dun even know theres a community thread here. so all of these times ive been doing things all wrong, no wonder my expenses so highbut my earnings are below average. everyday I ikat perut makan the most basic of food, sometimes I wanna cry thinking about it. only now I know they are actually grab drivers eating premium food and tengok wayang everyday ohmy.gif

ok i will do more research on this now. thank you very much to all those who responded! I am seriously indebted!
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post Apr 24 2018, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ Apr 24 2018, 08:34 PM)
PLease read the first page here.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4478891

Gradually, read last 100 pages. I trust all your questions will be answered.  thumbsup.gif

If you sapu all, I think ur AR is high... >80%. Do opt in HG to try it out if the plan is good for you. HG Players aim for RM5 trip cos wanna max incen but during B or P block they fish for jerungs or eat good food (go to telegram chat, see what they post for lunch or brunch, heheh) or go tgk wayang....

If you never opt in then ur Flexi now. Flexi players really2 choosy on ping they accept. some set RM20 above only. some KLIA player only. but AR koyak laa... 30% to 50% (if they wanna chase flexi cashback)

Flexi pro I know still bring back RM400 gross daily for 10-12 hours job. Smile and accept that some days is good, some days is bad.

Now... start reading please... If your livelihood depended on GRAB.
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I dont see the HG in my incentive tab. do I need to register for it?
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post Apr 25 2018, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ Apr 24 2018, 08:34 PM)
PLease read the first page here.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4478891

Gradually, read last 100 pages. I trust all your questions will be answered.  :thumbsup:

If you sapu all, I think ur AR is high... >80%. Do opt in HG to try it out if the plan is good for you. HG Players aim for RM5 trip cos wanna max incen but during B or P block they fish for jerungs or eat good food (go to telegram chat, see what they post for lunch or brunch, heheh) or go tgk wayang....

If you never opt in then ur Flexi now. Flexi players really2 choosy on ping they accept. some set RM20 above only. some KLIA player only. but AR koyak laa... 30% to 50% (if they wanna chase flexi cashback)

Flexi pro I know still bring back RM400 gross daily for 10-12 hours job. Smile and accept that some days is good, some days is bad.

Now... start reading please... If your livelihood depended on GRAB.
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btw what doesB block and P Block means? so much jargon haha

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post Apr 25 2018, 10:16 AM

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guys u have no idea how much this means to me. All of this time I had no idea that I have been doing this wrong.

god bless u all. now im motivated to try harder.
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post Apr 25 2018, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ Apr 25 2018, 03:20 PM)
After u earn more... do share with us ur tips... dun larr senyapp saja when money is good... then bising2 when the money is little. We help you so you can help others ya... peace yo!  icon_rolleyes.gif
You be surprise that some driver do not have chat group, or any other unofficial support. All they do is register and drive and listen and watch the youtube videos, the official ones that is.... Kesian la like that...

Their referral if any? dun care oredi...
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I promise Ill keep you guys updated. early this morning i called grab customer service and the operator actually spent quite a lot of time explaining to me what mistake I have done, because I intended to do GRAB full time, and have been doing it like so for 3 months despite deficits in income. he explained to me, because I was ported into GRAB when they bought uber, my default account had always been flexi account. tahts why despite spending long hours everyday, ive been getting so low income because I had 0 incentives for 3 months. also the cashback rewards are seriously ciput... I actually had to spend it for car service.

you guys really have no idea how much this meant to me. and yeah, just like u said, I had no one to turn to. which was why I had to turn to /k/ and found this subforum. i wouldnt be exaggerating if I said i had hit rock bottom. I was soo depressed these past couple weeks. im doing my job like a robot. I had no life. my meal was... well, compared to those succesfull GRAB drivers who posted their meal everyday and watched movies, mine was pathetic...

I hope this thread wont get closed. Ive bookmarked it and Ill post updates after 1, or 2 weeks my HG acct has been activated from flexi acct. Im seriously indebted guys. truly!
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post Apr 25 2018, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(nagasaran @ Apr 25 2018, 09:44 PM)
OMG, 3 months? You're seen still newbie! Check my current table earning! I'm doing this about 2.5 months HG in KL city, being part-time driving and I'm satisfied what I had did over the months! I can easily hit minimum RM250-300 per week just only the incentives. With trip fares, roughly Rm600-RM700 earning, minus car petrol and toll, I could have clean RM550 per week. My car get 2 time fills petrol per week and run me about 630KM per fill and only cost about RM120 and maybe less than that.

Learn how to KAYUH! I drive every morning from 6AM-9AM and then step into office at 10AM.
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apparently, like u said, yes, I had too much to learn still. and truthfully I had no one to turn to for advice. I didnt realized ive been running on flexi acct all these times, and I didnt even realized theyre 2 types of account.
I have so much to learn. once they granted me HG acct, I will post an update here!
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post May 1 2018, 10:05 PM

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guys. i finally got my HG activated. so i was told before that I need to collect money from rider if we pass toll ryte?

what if the rider pays using grabpay. should I collect as well?
because in the amount shown, it shows toll RM 0.00 ... So I dunno whether its already inclusive or not.
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post May 1 2018, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 2 2018, 02:40 AM)
Haha i more than safe with less than RM100
Just key the toll price inside

It will be charged in their credit card

Haha
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oh u could actually do that? i didnt realize!

btw, from your avatar, it just reminded me of that grab ambassador.
I called the call center earlier to inquire, but their answer wasnt helping. can you tell me what is the ambassador thing?

btw, I can only topup grab point by about rm40~rm50 daily. u guys knows my story from this thread first post. I just started 2nd day today of being part of HG incentive haha
so Im still new at this and dunno how it will affect my income. well see next week hehe...

i havent tried anything some guys suggested yet like main incentive, cancel trip, peak hour, idle hours, etc etc... just today I bantai all jobs assigned to me. I finished 20 jobs then decided im done for the day tongue.gif

until I can figure out how to do this right, this week will be like tutorial week. 1st week of me actually doing grab the proper way compared to before, so im hoiping all you sifus are willing to guide me, ill try to return the favor by helping the community the best way I can! (once I figure out how everything works tongue.gif)

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post May 2 2018, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ May 2 2018, 01:40 PM)
Regardless, Grab Pay or not... everytime you pass the toll, please edit the 0.00 amount and put toll charges. Reason being that some of your rider wanna claim the toll cost in the receipt/email grab from their work.  sweat.gif

If the rider complain to GRAB, you collect toll but never edit in the 0.00 tab - it might be an issue for Grab and You...  bye.gif

I mean really larrr your rider feel very untung taking ur rides... toll you settle and they oso keep quiet oni... If they're a responsible rider, they shud tell you that toll rider pay or better, leave a tip more or the same cost as the toll... #riderdiamdiamsebabuntung.  mad.gif
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things I learned the hard way:

since 2 months ago, maybe more than that after uber/grab merge, I have never charged my riders for toll. every single day I belanja my riders minimum rm20 in tolls because i thought, like in uber, all calculations are inclusive... now I know why i take home rm30~rm40 those days i first started. Ive only started collecting toll fees manually from yesterday after u guys told me to do it manually. but even then, i didnt key it in the app because i didnt know the toll slot could be edited...

btw, yesterday i made 20 trips. all long distance, short distance, I sapu semua. i brought home cash about rm 70 untung bersih minus all daily expenses. today i checked my incentive, only got rm59 or so. can anyone tell me if that is a good number or bad number?
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post May 2 2018, 09:18 PM

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also btw today I picked up a model from mont kiara and sent her to studio. i tried to google her name but i guess shes not on that level yet since i didnt get any match haha

her phone number should still be in my call log XD

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