first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.

OMG, 3 months? You're seen still newbie! Check my current table earning! I'm doing this about 2.5 months HG in KL city, being part-time driving and I'm satisfied what I had did over the months! I can easily hit minimum RM250-300 per week just only the incentives. With trip fares, roughly Rm600-RM700 earning, minus car petrol and toll, I could have clean RM550 per week. My car get 2 time fills petrol per week and run me about 630KM per fill and only cost about RM120 and maybe less than that.

Learn how to KAYUH! I drive every morning from 6AM-9AM and then step into office at 10AM.
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just my thought, newbie please dont do full time

because now incentive is much more lower compare with 1 year ago, so full time need alots of strategy to maximise their earnings i.e at which block to accept what kind of job and also to use cancellation at the right time and right rider (without being complain)

btw, i am doing part time and I also cut down driving a lots as many HP become P...

bros and sifu,
A noob question, normally how much should you keep in the credit balance,
Gonna start driving for grab soon, previously from Uber.

Its safer above RM100, got one time forgot reload during MP hour.. epay not working(maybe my account bug) delay until 20min only find Petronas to buy reload card.

guys. i finally got my HG activated. so i was told before that I need to collect money from rider if we pass toll ryte?

what if the rider pays using grabpay. should I collect as well?
because in the amount shown, it shows toll RM 0.00 ... So I dunno whether its already inclusive or not.

sorry for not explaining earlier..but sad to say that this happen b4 and was highlighted in FB..college student ordered 3 cars to see which one come first then cancel the rest...the best thing is that they are so proud of it..they never think what if this happen to their family member who is a driver...

oh also, does the schedule for the hourly blocks changes every week? Must i keep a copy of latest one always?

thanks for the advice!

these past few days, I still use the same game plan. remember when I said I will try to shoot for 20 trips daily? these past few days I managed to reach this!

when I was about to give up on GRAB and first opened this thread to appeal to you guys, I made home everyday about rm20~rm40 (on a good day) nett profit.
Im glad to say last week, my first week of doing HG, I managed to rake in over rm1,000! atm, my average daily earnings are RM150++ (with incentives included, and all expenses already deducted!)

so from your advice, I made even more than rm100 that you recommended, but I still havent made the calculations using the formula that someone left in here, so I dunno how much I make per hour yet.
just so u know, highest amount of incentives I ever earned from flexi before this was like rm17 only... and they always gave me short trips. Now after I opted for HG, they spammed me with long trips 

I dunno whether thats a good thing or not 
for now, I still dunno yet how to maximise the HG system using the pick and choose method. I just accept all works given to me, and i only reject (long) trips during MP blocs, and not other blocs!
Im still trying to learn, so give me time to see how its done 

btw, my incentives from last weeks job, I still havent gotten it. how will they pay me? and when?

ahaha tyvm! to call myself sifu is just downright wrong. im still learning left from right lol
I still havent figured out how incentives works yet, and I still havent done the selective jobs thinghy yet. like doing only short trips during MP and go vietmoi massat during B blocks etc etc lol

yeah. on Wednesday I did grab. thats the first time in my entire life ive seen KL/Selangor so empty like my hometown Kuching on certain days. Now I can imagine what people meant when they said KL during raya is ghost town. so thats how itll be like. Last election day, Wednesday was extremely fruitful! I did 57 jobs on that day! I brought home nett profit RM300+ (f I include incentives, I got 300+ from incentives)... and those rm400+ is only from cash in hand! I got lots of payment on grabpay as well, around rm200+ almost rm300 but my habit is to not bother the money in grab wallet because i think its easier if i use those money for topup.

now my habit is I sapu every job, as long as I can reach my daily nett profit of RM150. if on certain days I didnt get rm150, only then will I deduct money from my grab wallet so I can tally the amount to rm150 for that day. (fuel and toll expenses already minus. rm150 is clean profit only). this week im expecting payout incentives of around rm 300++ almost rm400.

my focus for now is to use every penny I have made to catch up on my outstanding bills and rental/utilities. If you guys remember correctly, I did mentioned that I was in a financial predicament and I was looking for salvation, which was how I started begging for help from you guys for advice and counsel    ... now I have used first HG week payments to catch up on my rental for house. now this week I plan to use my incentives and profit for smaller miscellaneous bills like telco/utilities/unifi etc... (my main maxis number already been barred cuz I cant afford to pay my bills for 3 months. thats how bad I was doing before I seek help here...)

only 1 thing im not sure tho, is how come I didnt get my weekly statement? where do u get it? is it in driver app or email directly to u? in any case, for last 2 week statement, my first week of doing HG, I didnt get my statement. is this normal?

lastly, just for an update, last week only 5 days working, I managed to obtain nett profit of rm 1.3k ... if I include incentives that hasnt been credited yet for that week, I will get around rm1.7k ... if I keep this up, ill be able to get rm5k~rm6k per month, which means, after I cleared all my financial problem this month, starting next month ill be able to actually turn my acct book around

again, I cant emphasize how much you guys here have helped me! I hope the day will come soon when I can repay your kindness and pass on knowledge to newer members who needs help!

edit** forgot to mention. I did job whole day from morning till night on friday. my mistake I didnt expect our people to be so dilligent on cuti day, they cuti kaw kaw haha. I made like 13 trips on that day (friday) and brought home only rm30 nett profit. but at least  my fuel tank was full haha. on thursday I took a break. I was celebrating PH win XD

Ahem... Ahem... He (Artak) is well on his way of becoming a HG SIFU already. RM1.7Knett per week, 57trips on polling day, daily intake of Rm150nett, all the bells and whistle of a Sifuuu... Hahaha...    You all see his renewed energy and enthusiasm for grab. No more 7-11 dry cream bread for him... starting to eye those juicy breakfast and lunch spread... Greeting riders with a genuine happiness instead of a painted smile with a heartache inside... Hehehe...  Congratulations... 

Weekly Statement or weekly structure incentive, all will be sent to notification in driver app. Do take notice on the red dot in your notification bar. 

Part timer (PT) can never come close to Full timer (FT) income. While the effort to earn the same, the difference in the scoring those morning and evening M U H Hour incen block will greatly make FTer earn more than PTer. Fare wise depends on your area of operation and situation of the hour. 

And... if ever sum1 ever comes to you saying Grab no untung... Please direct them to this thread... And TS can school them... :thumbsup:

Dear Bro,

I feel sad and sorry for the situation you are facing right now. I honestly quite skeptical if someone can make good income doing Grab for full time (some even relying from Grab income to pay living cost, car loan, car maintenance, etc)
With the price hike and competition right now I would say very tough for someone to rely only on Grab.
If I were you, I will be very friendly with passenger and start having quality conversation which might lead to full time employment (we hire one of our staff for customer service because one manager ride his car and have a good conversation, found out he actually in the middle of looking for job, expecting baby in few months, used to work in call centre, etc)
- Obviously not by interviewing your passenger but more to casual discussion to widen your network and open new opportunity and knowledge for you.
If you feel your passenger not interested to have a chat or even annoyed you need to stop and not discussing it further.
- You might try offer personal chauffeur to tourist or someone visiting Malaysia on daily rate or flat rate (calculate it wisely ofcourse)
- Ask your passenger who use your personal chauffeur service to recommend to his/her family friend or relative to contact you if they want to visit Malaysia. even if they need bigger car you can rent the car.
- Make a personal business card so you can pass it incase your passenger need you in the future

It's good for you to Grab, but you will not have the benefits of full time employment. moreover the risk is quite high if anything happen to you or your vehicle.
- What if you fall sick
- What if your car need to do major maintenance
- What if your car involve in accident and unable to GRAB
you will have no income, and yet expenses is a must.

Good luck and keep fighting bro

Introduction: GRAB mistakes that I did

so when I started off doing grab, i remembered just to test the water, I did grab only for 3 days the first week. then gradually I increased the number of days, but I still try to limit my working days. if possible at least 1 week, i must rest for 1 day. usually ill take 2 days off.

so during the first month, or specifically the first 7 weeks I did GRAB, here are the mistakes that I did:

1. Everyday I spent rm20~rm30 covering up for tolls of my passenger!

*when I did uber, toll was inclusive in the fare. so when I started doing grab, imagine everyday I "subsidized" my riders for their tolll. everyday my poket bocor rm20~rm30 covering for their tolls, and they know they had to pay for tolls, but nobody even mentioned it to me. not even once! so in the end, I calculated my loss here about roughly rm500~rm700 those first 7 weeks...

2. I was on a flexi plan instead of Hourly Guarantee

*so I only learned about the existence of HG the moment I first started this thread, imagine my noobness lol...

when I was still on flexi, everyay I received jobs and I noticed that GRAB fare is much lower than uber. but the only thing that I can say is better than uber is grab has a policy of rm5 minimum fare. when doing uber, I was getting as low as 20 cents per trips (of course they reimburse the full amount later but that takes times, and my wallet is as empty as they can be. my acct was already negative at taht time, I had to borrow money from sister...)

but I noticed in incentive tab, theres incentive of cashabck from low 10% to highest 20% IF i get to drop riders as specific part at klia1 and klia 2 dafuq... imagine me doing flexi grab for 7 weeks, dropping people off at klia, and not even once those klia/klia2 cashback incentive qualified tab ever increased. it kept staying at 0... dafuq?!

I remembered before this when reading forums or from hearsay, grab players always says "main insentif, main insentif, etc etc..."

but as u guys can deduce now, from my first 7 weeks of doing grab, I have no idea how this incentive system works, probably because i never get any... and even if I get max incentive of 20% cashback from klia, imagine if I make a steady rm200~rm300 back then, my cashback would only be rm20~rm40++ every week PROVIDED IF I actually scored it, in which case, I never did...

so imagine the depression I was having at this time, with lower fare than uber, almost non existent incentives, my debt stacking up, my maxis main number already barred cuz I havent paid bills for 2 months, (I have that smartphone maxisone oackage so i am paying rm300+ per month), my house bill is overdue 1 month even tho I just rented the place for 3 months, and to top it off, back then my income was a steady rm500+ nett profit working my ass off from 7am till 11pm, 6 days a week...

imagine me giving fake smiles to riders saying i must be making lots of money doing grab full time, but only I know the truth that I only can barely make rm1500 every month! and my meals everyday is below pathetic! those gardenia bread are staple food.

I remembered 1 night I actually lost it, while eating my gradenia with leftover mineral water in my car, I just started crying for a long time. I was sobbing like a child that lost his favorite toy. I was totally heartbroken and helpless. That night was the night I hit rock bottom, when I decided this is it... theres no future for me doing grab.

thats about 2 or 3 nights before I opened this thread. I stopped doing grab for a couple days after that night. I had already lost my will.

I Got Back Up Again

after I opened this thread, I saw the usual /k/ bs in here as well, thats totally normal. then some of the sifus here actually started asking me questions that I have no answers to, such as the jargons they used: MP/UP/P and HG, Time Blocs and Incentives etc etc

with more questions being asked at me, more questions arose from their questions to me in my head, so I started researching again and kept asking in here, then the sifus 1 by 1 started helping me (probably they realized I wasnt exaggerating and wasnt kidding about my bad predicament... and probably they realized at taht time I really didnt know anything, which was true lol)

everyone is still adamant talking about incentives and calculating and showing their spreadsheets of making rm20~rm30 clean profit per hour (whilst I was making clean rm20+ profits every night before bed working from 7am till 11pm everyday, seriously, imagine how I was feeling back then... its like these sifus are throwing salt in my gaping wound, only thing is they dun realized theyre doing it lol)

So I decided. Im gonna play whatever games these sifus are playing. Im gonna try this and give grab 1 more chance. I started researching HG. the next morning I called grab customer service. the person who answered my call was super helpful (probably because it was so early in the morning), he explained to me everything that is to know about HG. and he kept scolding me too, telling me adamantly and specifically that FLEXI plan is for PART TIMER who works according to their mood, while HOURLY GUARANTEE is for FULL TIMER! (imagine how dumbfounded i was ahahaha)... so the guy arranged for my transfer to HG from flexi, but he told me this part is most important:

** In order to opt in to HG from FLEXI, you must do the application between monday~wednesday every week before 12pm on wednesday. after that the application to transfer for that week is closed, and then you need to wait for next week.

IF your application is a SUCCESS, it will only happen on FRIDAY of that same week, BUT it wont be activated yet in your grab driver apps that you have changed to HG. it will still remain as flexi. you will only have your HG started of the following week on MONDAY!

but he also told me, in order to opt in to HG, GRAB HQ will do assessment to your behavior whether youre qualified to opt in to HG or not. they will assess you from your acceptance rating, your activeness (days youre working every week), and your cancellation rate. lastly they will see your star ranking, it must be above 4.8 or was it 4.7? I forgot...

so after I learned about that, I opted to change to HG. to make sure I pass their test, I kept doing what Ive been doing kaw kaw that particular week even tho im still eating gardenia, im still making about rm20~rm30 nett profit everyday, I kept on going for that 1 last week!

so next monday arrives, and I jumped in joy and I remembered shouting happiliy that I got my status changed to HG now haha

(but I didnt start wrking immediately that monday. I took another day off and decided im gonna do more homework and learn more about grabs from reading the official grab thread that someone directed me to read in this forum. I did exactly that!)

damn what the hell is that?! looks awesome!!! 
btw, today I started out early, but in just a couple hours i changed my mind and ddecided ill just to enuf to refuel my tank to the max today haha. in anycase, today I kept looking at grab map, theres so few red spots. and even the green spots are scattered around. is it slow day today?

glad to hear that your earning increase, i hope your financial situation can be improve in the future

wew nice story you had. i've read them all since i also being fired last month and jobless for 1+month

now im eyeing on doing grab. but didnt have any car. so im looking to rent first. what you think?

im looking for bezza or myvi. maybe cost about 400-450 per week.

is it worth it? i try to do grab at usj21 area. since i can rent at there (friends house).

The best and fastest is thru an Alpha. In my case it was 24 hours. First get ready all your documents, submit to the alpha. Answer 20 questions online after viewing tutorial and within 24 hours can start driving. I submitted my documents and answered the online questions on Sunday and by Monday I started driving. All done online and by phone and whatsapp. I've never met him in person.  :confused:

Anybody can register but the trick is to get the right amount of support via the unofficial line not CS. An Alpha should have a whatsapp group for his downline, from there we help each other and share all things about grab. I am satisfied with my alpha. Either he or the others will answer all my question and settle my fears about driving grab in the first week. 

whoa guys! today was crazy. I accumulated highest collected profit today, even higher than that time in election!

hope I can do this everyday cuz I need money for raya haha

guys, heres an update I forgot to mention:

I dunno about you guys, but I personally will never ever accept job if it is GrabShare. even if I accept it, Ill cancel it immediately later depending on how much AR I have atm lol

its not worth doing guys. imagine driving 1 hour for an rm10 jobs. just dont do it.
also, 99% of the time, u will never get matched. which means, ure stuck with minimal pay for driving long distance.