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TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM, updated 7y ago

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first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:03 PM

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I have a friend who also a GRAB driver because his employer did not pay him for 5 months. He told me also 'tak untung...' just enough to survive only. Sorry no tips from me.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM)
first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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What about your incentive? I can get at least RM 500 in incentives every week. My expenses just use the cash that I got from previous day.

This post has been edited by Mirrors_Edge23: Apr 24 2018, 12:06 PM
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:06 PM

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from what I heard, you need to know when and where the hotspot is...

basically, you need to know peak hours so that the rate will be double or triple...

TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Apr 24 2018, 04:06 PM)
What about your incentive? I can get at least RM 500 in incentives every week. My expenses just use the cash that I got from previous day.
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ive never gotten even one incentives yet since i start. most of the incentives are klia to and fro. i have not taken a single rider to klia/klia 2 yet and i dont think waiting all day over there is a good idea too, because too many other drivers waiting as well. itll affect my overall daily earning if i jsut wait and dont earn anything.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Mirrors_Edge23 @ Apr 24 2018, 04:06 PM)
What about your incentive? I can get at least RM 500 in incentives every week. My expenses just use the cash that I got from previous day.
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what kind of incentive are u getting? where do u usually wait for riders? mind sharing some tips? even if just rm500 clean profits from incentive every week is enuf for me to get by the month, unfortunately atm, i have not gotten even 1 incentives done, like the grab share, kila etc. ..
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Apr 24 2018, 04:03 PM)
I  have a friend who also a GRAB driver because his employer did not pay him for 5 months. He told me also 'tak untung...' just enough to survive only. Sorry no tips from me.
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hes probably in same boat as me... someone told me grab is bad ever since they telan uber. now no competition, and they have lots of riders already.
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post Apr 24 2018, 12:43 PM

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keyword : INCENTIVE

how to maximize the incentive? that's another story...

tips : nearby LRT

TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(doncab @ Apr 24 2018, 04:43 PM)
keyword : INCENTIVE

how to maximize the incentive? that's another story...

tips : nearby LRT
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any lrt?
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM)
first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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U work about 11-12 hrs per day, gross income per day is RM250, income per hour is RM20+

There is something wrong with your driving area, try move to hotspot or high demand area.

Another thing is, try drive early in the morning by incentive, morning and evening peak hour is the best time to maximize income and higher possibility to get higher surge.

I'm doing part time can get gross around RM30-40 per hour at nearby city area btw.

Your car fuel consumption is very high too, eating your cost about 40% of your net income. Myself is around 20% using Myvi.

This post has been edited by yhtan: Apr 24 2018, 01:01 PM
TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 24 2018, 05:00 PM)
U work about 11-12 hrs per day, gross income per day is RM250, income per hour is RM20+

There is something wrong with your driving area, try move to hotspot or high demand area.

Another thing is, try drive early in the morning by incentive, morning and evening peak hour is the best time to maximize income and higher possibility to get higher surge.

I'm doing part time can get gross around RM30-40 per hour at nearby city area btw.

Your car fuel consumption is very high too, eating your cost about 40% of your net income. Myself is around 20% using Myvi.
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ahh is that what you think? so rm250 per day is abnormally low then? I drive a saga blm. maybe its high because I kept moving around to chase the ever changing hotspot. any advice on which area I should stick with?
also, what do u mean by drive early for incentive if you dont mind telling me? since a few weeks ago, only incentive bonus that is active in my grab acct is grabshare 15 trips, and kila/klia trip. no other incentive. ive heard people saying that there are incentive for a certain cumulative trips u do everyday, but I dont think I have that in my menu of active incentive.

This post has been edited by Artak: Apr 24 2018, 01:16 PM
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(DoomHammer @ Apr 24 2018, 12:03 PM)
I  have a friend who also a GRAB driver because his employer did not pay him for 5 months. He told me also 'tak untung...' just enough to survive only. Sorry no tips from me.
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wow did not know its that bad...now should be even worse since no more uber to jump ship to??!!! console.gif
but some driver that i take are happy with the pay but i did not ask them how much they make la..or maybe they are part time only...
in this case..is it better to get a full time job in the office? at least stable income every month??
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(montyashley80 @ Apr 24 2018, 05:17 PM)
wow did not know its that bad...now should be even worse since no more uber to jump ship to??!!!  console.gif
but some driver that i take are happy with the pay but i did not ask them how much they make la..or maybe they are part time only...
in this case..is it better to get a full time job in the office? at least stable income every month??
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I guess, coming from a full time grab driver thats been having it rough, its best if u get a full time job elsewhere - then do grab as side income.
personally Im falling behind on every monthly commitment I have. and im at a loss to how I can earn more to service my car as well. Im worried...
TSArtak
post Apr 24 2018, 01:34 PM

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could really use more input. sigh...
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 01:20 PM)
I guess, coming from a full time grab driver thats been having it rough, its best if u get a full time job elsewhere - then do grab as side income.
personally Im falling behind on every monthly commitment I have. and im at  a loss to how I  can earn more to service my car as well. Im worried...
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how's grab since uber no longer available? more tough for driver since more driver is looking for job?
grab use to give lots of incentives..what happen now?
as said for better future get full time jon during daytime and grab during night..but make sure you get enough rest and sleep ok..take care bro
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM)
first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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Where is ur location ? U used rm30 toll to travel home from your last drop off point? FYI, toll is paid by rider.

Since u are full timer, u should focus hourly guarantee(HG) and start at 6am. Look at the incentive table to learn more.

With the HP, UP, MP block in HG , u should get average RM25 nett per hour from grab for those block.

This post has been edited by crixalisrox: Apr 24 2018, 01:57 PM
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post Apr 24 2018, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 01:34 PM)
could really use more input. sigh...
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If you chase GS then ur Flexi I assume? Flexi got cashback daily ie: complete 20trips get 20% back. PLease correct me if I'm wrong.

Try Opt in HG? Ur 3months senior, I'm sure you know HG and Flexi. Anyway, keep ur GW high to fish for jerung (RM20 - 50). Your AR above 80%? U sapu all? Area? KL? MOnt Kiara, Damansara, all those rich + expat stay? It could be location not hot enough.

Pray for rain and the area ur in got red hot? If you can be in a red area with jam and rain but still managed to Pu rider and drop them using inside road in PJ... The fare is double or more...

Anyway... I might teaching u ajaran sesat again... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 11:54 AM)
first of all, salute to fellow GRAB drivers out there.

I have quite a bit of dilemma doing GRAB. ive been doing this for the past 3 months, full time, and I'm seeing a worrying pattern to my income. I thought I might be doing something wrong, because my own experience and what I read over the internet and hearsay taht people can easily makes clean income nett profit above rm3k per month by doing GRAB.

so my daily routine is usually like this, and my expenses.
I started working from 9am and I usually do it till 9 or 10pm everyday. Sometimes I take 1 day off every week, sometimes none at all.

Expenses:
RM80+ Everyday Fuel
RM50 Everyday for GRAB Cash topup
RM20~RM30 Toll
RM20~RM30 Miscellaneous (food/tidbits)

other miscellaneous costs not included like phone bills/cleaning/car maintenance/tyres etc...

So this is pretty much my daily expenses doing GRAB from 9am~9 or 10pm everyday

with the RM50 topup, I can make RM210~RM250 gross salary everyday. Minus my expenses, I bring home less than RM50 home everyday nett profit.
At this rate I'm getting around RM1.5 only nett profit every month working my ass off everyday from morning to night with no life.
Ive heard other drivers bragging that this isnt the case and theyre making much more money than me.

Please, I beg of anyone that can help me. what am I doing wrong? How can I improve myself? I desperately need to improve... Im seriously at a loss.
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Hourly guarantee

Make sure you hantam HP MP UP blocks with RM5-RM8 x 4 trips every hour

RM9 and above is loss in incentive

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post Apr 24 2018, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Artak @ Apr 24 2018, 01:14 PM)
ahh is that what you think? so rm250 per day is abnormally low then? I drive a saga blm. maybe its high because I kept moving around to chase the ever changing hotspot. any advice on which area I should stick with?
also, what do u mean by drive early for incentive if you dont mind telling me? since a few weeks ago, only incentive bonus that is active in my grab acct is grabshare 15 trips, and kila/klia trip. no other incentive. ive heard people saying that there are incentive for a certain cumulative trips u do everyday, but I dont think I have that in my menu of active incentive.
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Go and read the main thread first page, it has a blog and u can opt in Hourly Guarantee (HG) by filling form.

To meet the requirement for HG, u need AR 80% daily.
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post Apr 24 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(shyghost @ Apr 24 2018, 05:57 PM)
If you chase GS then ur Flexi I assume? Flexi got cashback daily ie: complete 20trips get 20% back. PLease correct me if I'm wrong.

Try Opt in HG? Ur 3months senior, I'm sure you know HG and Flexi. Anyway, keep ur GW high to fish for jerung (RM20 - 50). Your AR above 80%?  U sapu all? Area? KL? MOnt Kiara, Damansara, all those rich + expat stay? It could be location not hot enough.

Pray for rain and the area ur in got red hot? If you can be in a red area with jam and rain but still managed to Pu rider and drop them using inside road in PJ... The fare is double or more...

Anyway... I might teaching u ajaran sesat again...  doh.gif
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OMG believe it or not I have no idea at all of those jargons you guys are using sweat.gif
that explain why i might not be making enuf. im totally new at this omg!

and nope i have no idea what is flexi, hourly guarantee, PU etc etc... ever since I started I jsut hantam accept every call I receive and take passengers whether the fare is high or low. is that where im doing wrong?

u guys told me RM9 and above is counter productive and all these times I thought those are what Im aiming for? rclxub.gif

Oh lord... I might have been doing this wrong since the start...

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