Hailed as a sport-tourer, it is comfortable and easy to ride.
Priced RM13,788 (basic selling price with 6% GST) for a limited time it is set to dominate that market segment.



Modenas Dominar 400, cheapest 400cc bike
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Modenas has launched the Dominar D400. seriously tough looking bike
Hailed as a sport-tourer, it is comfortable and easy to ride. Priced RM13,788 (basic selling price with 6% GST) for a limited time it is set to dominate that market segment. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Apr 19 2018, 04:44 PM) Modenas has launched the Dominar D400. seriously tough looking bike For a limited time? How long is it?Hailed as a sport-tourer, it is comfortable and easy to ride. Priced RM13,788 (basic selling price with 6% GST) for a limited time it is set to dominate that market segment. ![]() ![]() <img src='https://s2.<link removed>/image/2017/10/MUZ_6494-e1506956836323-630x457.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> |
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Quite nice, price of Fz150i.
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Cheaper than some 250's bike too...
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Reason why it has lesser horses compare KTM DUke 390 becauseeee
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for first 400 bikes. after that i tink it would be 15900
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Are there any showroom that are active in promoting this bike?
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A 185kg bike... difficult to push if had a flat tyre.
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use the foam to temp inflate, then ride slowly to get help. it works for most puncture. not a permanent fix.
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I'm tempted with this bike...seriously. The price is super cheap. Cant get bikes of such cc with that price. Used also can't find many choices unless the very old ones.
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Price is cheap
How about quality And what about sparepart Top speed also not that high (148kmph) Need to upgrade license to B Full |
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QUOTE(matrix123 @ May 1 2018, 07:07 AM) Allianz Bike Warrior insurance plus a whole lot of towing services available. Moto aid... Just join the bike groups you see on FB and there'll be lots of towing services available from there. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 2 2018, 09:04 AM) change with smaller sprocket laa.. it was designed for engine durability even though came from the same brood mother KTM.. some I seen the complaint of KTM 390 (1st gen) the engine oil leaks perhaps due higher tuning stateAnd in the Indian road, 145 km/h consider high speed already, so the gearing of the bike tune for acceleration than top speed. This post has been edited by ajaibman: May 2 2018, 10:05 AM |
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ May 2 2018, 09:55 AM) Ah, ok. Read it somewhere that smaller sprocket helps - which one? Front or Back?. Hahahaha, I'm pretty noob when it comes to mods.I'm ok with the acceleration. Just that the top speed is a bit meh for a 400 Haizzz, just read somewhere that it is not very corner happy too. Might need mods...might as well forget it lah...too much work This post has been edited by lowpro: May 2 2018, 10:12 AM |
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QUOTE(wingbee @ Apr 30 2018, 12:04 PM) If had a flat tyre, just call towing. this should be expected when buying motor with cc 250 and above. yeah sure.If you had no money for the tow, dont buy this motor. not logic to manual towing 250cc above bike if tyre are flat or engine cant start. unless u are commando type |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 2 2018, 10:02 AM) Ah, ok. Read it somewhere that smaller sprocket helps - which one? Front or Back?. Hahahaha, I'm pretty noob when it comes to mods. Edited my previous post dear..I'm ok with the acceleration. Just that the top speed is a bit meh for a 400 This post has been edited by ajaibman: May 2 2018, 10:09 AM |
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QUOTE(yoshiki81 @ May 1 2018, 08:01 AM) Price is cheap top speed 148kmh ride superbike are not same with 148kmh ride kapchai.How about quality And what about sparepart Top speed also not that high (148kmph) Need to upgrade license to B Full no point if u can speed up to 200kmh but the stability is out. u will feel the environment 148kmh with superbike is same like speed 80kmh with kapchai. still can makan kacang within 148kmh. no big shake |
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QUOTE(otai_g @ May 2 2018, 10:10 AM) top speed 148kmh ride superbike are not same with 148kmh ride kapchai. Yes i know what u mean by speed between kapcai n big bike..i own r25 and cbr1000..no point if u can speed up to 200kmh but the stability is out. u will feel the environment 148kmh with superbike is same like speed 80kmh with kapchai. still can makan kacang within 148kmh. no big shake What i mean is need to upgrade B full just because of 400cc but speed not that high..BUT.... I already watch the video in youtube and i saw it can go more than 148kmh..the comment i write is before watching the video.. p/s waiting for yamaha m-slaz lel |
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Bro yoshi, jom ride together, i wanna test yr cbr1k, ehhh.
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contemplating to get this or just a rs150/y15..
in dilemma.. price wise just not that much though.. (i mean just top up a bit only) |
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153xx otr cash.
rdtax, insurance , fuel consumption difference compare to kapchai ? |
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Saw this bike on flesh.. it is big bike for sure.. on par the size as CB500 Honda.. (the naked version)...
Just change the sprocket to smaller tooth should be able to regain those lost top speed... in Malaysia you don't need to runaway that fast from oto Rickshaws and free roaming animals. |
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Anyone tested this bike already? There are new colours as well just released. After speaking to a Modenas insider, it seems that the new batch has already been snapped up by their dealers.
The bikes with the new colour and gold rims is said to have a slightly different injection map - giving it better response. I'm not sure about this. Can anyone confirm? Yup, after speaking to some friends, only need to change the rear sprocket from 45 to 43 to give it a better top speed. The new map should be able to compensate for the sprocket change. Waiting to hear of some reviews from owners here |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 7 2018, 10:31 AM) really depend on ur requirements.. at last i bought the z650if u dont mind changing bike often.. not ngam.. trade in get other bike.. still i choose ABS on top of everything.. z will have 2 rotors up front.. reason being, not that dominar is no good, but z650 is more drooling.. |
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QUOTE(croomaniac @ Jul 16 2018, 09:26 AM) at last i bought the z650 good to hear that still i choose ABS on top of everything.. z will have 2 rotors up front.. reason being, not that dominar is no good, but z650 is more drooling.. for the price z650 is worth it.. my only complain is the look.. why kawa dont do a different design... haih.... |
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New 2018 model, not bad .. already in Malaysia ..
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dump away the stock tyre. go put in T31 or whatever, as long as not stock tyre
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any video from india that shows the Dominar can ride / sound like this.... |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 12 2018, 04:29 PM) Got the blue one. Sprocket changed from 45 to 42. Sweet ride and corners well too. Very manoeuvrable. Next will be changing to Battlax! I got the blue one too.What is the effect after 45 to 42? how much and where to do it? Kindly advise! it wont void warranty right |
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QUOTE(Ferryking @ Sep 12 2018, 05:35 PM) I got the blue one too. Actually I dunno how is the difference is before and after the sprocket change as I got it changed immediately by the shop before taking the bike. Warranty ah? Hmmm, gotta be friendly with the shop lor What is the effect after 45 to 42? how much and where to do it? Kindly advise! it wont void warranty right But on a recent ride to Lukut from Seremban over the long weekend, it was fine on corners and could keep up with my friends on much bigger bikes, 650, 900, 1,000, 1,200. On the way back to Seremban, I really opened it up (as I was riding alone) and found it was a sweet bike to ride. Had sweet handling and good torque to pull out of corners. Slipper clutch, well, I didn't notice much about it. Only thing is if it had better tyres, I would have been more confident. But no scares anyway. This post has been edited by lowpro: Sep 12 2018, 05:48 PM |
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hows d feel compared to ur fz6?
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 12 2018, 05:47 PM) Actually I dunno how is the difference is before and after the sprocket change as I got it changed immediately by the shop before taking the bike. Warranty ah? Hmmm, gotta be friendly with the shop lor Nice!But on a recent ride to Lukut from Seremban over the long weekend, it was fine on corners and could keep up with my friends on much bigger bikes, 650, 900, 1,000, 1,200. On the way back to Seremban, I really opened it up (as I was riding alone) and found it was a sweet bike to ride. Had sweet handling and good torque to pull out of corners. Slipper clutch, well, I didn't notice much about it. Only thing is if it had better tyres, I would have been more confident. But no scares anyway. I haven't full throttle my bike as light still blinking at 6k rpm. Can feel the pull around 6-7k also So now I feel my bike not enough power |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 12 2018, 08:58 PM) It felt a bit like the G310R. Light, nimble but not as sharp as the G310R. Still, its light weight made it feel much more manoeuvrable and flickable than my 600 which feels like a whale after riding the 400. It's something that will do well on twisties and in the city but not so much on highways unless it is kept around 150kph and below. I haven't brought it out on a highway yet though. But vs my FZ6R, well, for one, my 4-cylinder is way smoother and certainly more top end but for low speed bursts of speed, the 400 can easily keep up. My 600 also feels way bulkier and a bit more cumbersome to move around. The 400 does have a big bike feel which is nice and it handles nice too. Nice fat and thick seat. I'm sure it will be more comfy than my 600 on a long but 'relaxed' ride. Another thing is there is more legroom too. So, the riding triangle is bigger in the 400 than my 600 which makes for a more upright and also a bit more comfortable position. The suspension is a bit bouncy though on stock tyre pressures. Oh another thing is vibration. But then I guess it is normal for a single.After all considerations, for RM13k, it does its job well and has specs to back it up. This post has been edited by lowpro: Sep 13 2018, 02:03 PM |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 13 2018, 08:14 AM) It felt a bit like the G310R. Light, nimble but not as sharp as the G310R. Still, its light weight made it feel much more manoeuvrable and flickable than my 600 which feels like a whale after riding the 400. It's something that will do well on twisties and in the city but not so much on highways unless it is kept around 150kph and below. I haven't brought it out on a highway yet though. But vs my FZ6R, well, for one, my 4-cylinder is way smoother and certainly more top end but for low speed bursts of speed, the 400 can easily keep up. My 600 also feels way bulkier and a bit more cumbersome to move around. The 400 does have a big bike feel which is nice and it handles nice too. Nice fat and thick seat. I'm sure it will be more comfy than my 600 on a long but 'relaxed'ride. Another thing is there is more legroom too. So, the riding triangle is bigger in the 400 than my 600 which makes for a more upright and also a bit more comfortable position. The suspension is a bit bouncy though on stock tyre pressures. Oh another thing is vibration. But then I guess it is normal for a single. Thanksgiving for sharing. This is my first bike so not much previous experience..lolAfter all considerations, for RM13k, it does its job well and has specs to back it up. Already eyeing mt-09 next haha How much you both yours. Me 14.7 otr. |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 21 2018, 11:49 AM) You can check out this linkhttps://youtu.be/JcLpyLkGSkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcLpyLkGSkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pultJixUs8A This post has been edited by etgeno: Sep 13 2018, 04:43 PM |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 2 2018, 11:02 AM) Ah, ok. Read it somewhere that smaller sprocket helps - which one? Front or Back?. Hahahaha, I'm pretty noob when it comes to mods. Divide the number of teeth on your rear sprocket with the number of teeth on your front to get your ratio.I'm ok with the acceleration. Just that the top speed is a bit meh for a 400 Haizzz, just read somewhere that it is not very corner happy too. Might need mods...might as well forget it lah...too much work The lower the ratio, the better your top speed but it reduces your acceleration. The higher the ratio, vice versa. So the trick is, to get better top speed you must increase the size of your rear sprocket by 1-2 teeth. Or if you want a more dramatic difference, the math says decrease the front sprocket size by 1 tooth. You'll be able to cruise at higher speeds at lower RPM at the expense of acceleration. Beware that in the end, the final result is always influenced by how much power the engine makes in the first place. So if ur engine is small, don't expect miracles. Try out small changes in ratio first until u get a feel for where you are in relation to the performance you want. My TNT600 would rev past the redline, indicating it was under-geared from the factory. When my chain wore out, I increased the gearing by lowering the sprocket ratio. Now it does 150km/h at just 7000rpm, which is better for my highway commute. Good luck. This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Sep 13 2018, 04:50 PM |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Sep 13 2018, 04:48 PM) Divide the number of teeth on your rear sprocket with the number of teeth on your front to get your ratio. Actually, to increase speed, you drop the number of teeth at the rear sprocket or increase the number of teeth in the front sprocket. To get better acceleration, you increase number of teeth at the rear sprocket and drop the number of teeth at the front. My 2 cents worth. The lower the ratio, the better your top speed but it reduces your acceleration. The higher the ratio, vice versa. So the trick is, to get better top speed you must increase the size of your rear sprocket by 1-2 teeth. Or if you want a more dramatic difference, the math says decrease the front sprocket size by 1 tooth. You'll be able to cruise at higher speeds at lower RPM at the expense of acceleration. Beware that in the end, the final result is always influenced by how much power the engine makes in the first place. So if ur engine is small, don't expect miracles. Try out small changes in ratio first until u get a feel for where you are in relation to the performance you want. My TNT600 would rev past the redline, indicating it was under-geared from the factory. When my chain wore out, I increased the gearing by lowering the sprocket ratio. Now it does 150km/h at just 7000rpm, which is better for my highway commute. Good luck. |
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hi all, after some consideration between cb250r, versys x and d400, i go for dominar 400 early this month. currently clock around 380km.
however i notice one of the fork seal for the front suspension is leaking fork oil now. my first time ever seeing such issue sigh. any recommended shop to service the fork , other than modenas official SC ? reason is the waiting list is really long, need to wait till OCT for warranty claim/service at official sc, and i just wanna get this fixed asap before another front fork give up . |
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go to any authorise modenas sc...
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 13 2018, 11:42 PM) go to any authorise modenas sc... nah i tried some authorized modenas sc, so called "Pusat Servis Modenas Service Plus". wana claim oso need to wait long.. can change first then later claim? when ask, their answer is : # no part for the fork seal (ok fine i buy this reason since this is possible) , but... # no tools to open the fork <---- LOL really ? |
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Sep 13 2018, 04:00 PM) You can check out this link thx for sharing ! https://youtu.be/JcLpyLkGSkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcLpyLkGSkE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pultJixUs8A |
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hyper riding a style of sport motorcycle riding. ‘hyper’ is a sport rider term used for experienced twistie riders. as in those that have basic skills, that generally don’t like racing or being chased or chasing track tails. hyper is slow, within the comfort zone, based upon one’s skill level, but well within the design parameters of using a sport bike to slam into a twist, and roll on the exit. This is what the Dominar was designed for, HYPER RIDING |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2018, 11:23 AM) where u get this 'copy' Hahahaha.....The indians market it as a hyper rider, so if you check the actual definition of hyper riding, you'll find that definition.... dominar is designed to built like an ox for indian usage... but too bad.... here got member facing fork seal leak on new bike.... very frustrating.... |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 14 2018, 11:23 AM) where u get this 'copy' for the record, if you go through their forum and youtube, at india, they too are facing fork seal leaking issue. dominar is designed to built like an ox for indian usage... but too bad.... here got member facing fork seal leak on new bike.... very frustrating.... and coincidentally , this is a shared issue with ktm, so, hmmmm .... here, the main reason why sc claim too long time is because lack of man power at sc. i heard that some official modenas sc only have 2 person handling all the servicing work load. if this is true, im kinda pity the sc staff, that is way under staff if you ask me, judging on how much people is getting pulsar and dominar. |
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Sep 14 2018, 10:42 AM) hyper riding a style of sport motorcycle riding. ‘hyper’ is a sport rider term used for experienced twistie riders. as in those that have basic skills, that generally don’t like racing or being chased or chasing track tails. hyper is slow, within the comfort zone, based upon one’s skill level, but well within the design parameters of using a sport bike to slam into a twist, and roll on the exit. This is what the Dominar was designed for, HYPER RIDING ![]() |
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Sep 13 2018, 05:12 PM) Actually, to increase speed, you drop the number of teeth at the rear sprocket or increase the number of teeth in the front sprocket. To get better acceleration, you increase number of teeth at the rear sprocket and drop the number of teeth at the front. My 2 cents worth. Bless for those can play around with the final gear.... my bike can't |
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any one got issue with their coolant?
my coolant drop beyond min when my bike reaches 1000km... then i change the coolant, removed all and use new one...then seems like decreasing also... maybe got leaking |
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Sep 22 2018, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(Freestyling @ Sep 22 2018, 04:11 PM) any one got issue with their coolant? Colleague of mine, having the same issue.. his bike just over 1100km in odometer. coolant level almost at the very bottom of the stripe.my coolant drop beyond min when my bike reaches 1000km... then i change the coolant, removed all and use new one...then seems like decreasing also... maybe got leaking He said its common problem with Dominar in Indian owner forum (he can read Hindi). best to bring it to the Authorized SC. |
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Hi guys. I was actually ocnsiderj gthe this bike , but after reading through the comments here and reviews. What are your final thoughts on this bike ? Is there still many of the aforementioned problems like leaking , etc..? Thanks
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Sep 23 2018, 09:07 PM
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Sep 23 2018, 09:15 PM
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@ youtube search dominar leaking / coolant issues / quality /... seems got alot...
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Sep 23 2018, 09:33 PM
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For those who kena the coolant leaking issue, was it taken care off by the service center?
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Sep 24 2018, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Sep 13 2018, 04:48 PM) Divide the number of teeth on your rear sprocket with the number of teeth on your front to get your ratio. Please do not mislead the readers. You're right on the first point but the next you're totally off. The lower the ratio, the better your top speed but it reduces your acceleration. The higher the ratio, vice versa. So the trick is, to get better top speed you must increase the size of your rear sprocket by 1-2 teeth. Or if you want a more dramatic difference, the math says decrease the front sprocket size by 1 tooth. You'll be able to cruise at higher speeds at lower RPM at the expense of acceleration. Beware that in the end, the final result is always influenced by how much power the engine makes in the first place. So if ur engine is small, don't expect miracles. Try out small changes in ratio first until u get a feel for where you are in relation to the performance you want. My TNT600 would rev past the redline, indicating it was under-geared from the factory. When my chain wore out, I increased the gearing by lowering the sprocket ratio. Now it does 150km/h at just 7000rpm, which is better for my highway commute. Good luck. To increase top speed (or reduce RPM) you decrease rear sprocket teeth, not increase them. You said it yourself increase in ratio number helps with acceleration but now you're indicating otherwise. |
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Sep 26 2018, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(julianpang @ Sep 23 2018, 09:33 PM) For those who kena the coolant leaking issue, was it taken care off by the service center? went to autorized dealer, they cant solveAny more leaking after it was fixed? then went to subang u5 modenas for warranty... they just fixed the connection joint which is leaking, so far ok... need to continue monitoring.. if u are considering this bike, i will say go ahead, worth for it's price. |
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QUOTE(minmin @ Sep 26 2018, 11:12 AM) went to autorized dealer, they cant solve Thanks.then went to subang u5 modenas for warranty... they just fixed the connection joint which is leaking, so far ok... need to continue monitoring.. if u are considering this bike, i will say go ahead, worth for it's price. |
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where to test drive?, thinking of getting one end of year, of january..huhu
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Sep 28 2018, 02:10 PM
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Bought this bike out of impulse, coz abs was tempting but pricr increase already la was quoted 16k
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Oct 6 2018, 09:06 PM
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anyone already test ride? i already register, when modenas will contact me?
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Oct 6 2018, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Oct 6 2018, 09:32 PM) I purchased without test drive, coz its value for money, abs slipper clutch and big cc good torque engine at below 20k i agree, dominar 400 is worth the price, especially ABS, it is very important for me. but modenas have test ride for dominar400 / pulsar rs&ns 200 now, so why not do a test ride before i buy it https://modenas.my/dominard400/ |
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QUOTE(sks1986my @ Oct 6 2018, 10:01 PM) i agree, dominar 400 is worth the price, especially ABS, it is very important for me. Go ahead bro, i believe its worth it.but modenas have test ride for dominar400 / pulsar rs&ns 200 now, so why not do a test ride before i buy it https://modenas.my/dominard400/ |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Oct 8 2018, 10:49 AM) Do like I did, go there (went to Shah Alam/Sg. Buloh Modenas center) and ask to test ride the Dominar 400... I drove there and didnt wear riding attire or Helmet, the counter guy still give me the key without asking for my details with note: only ride on the shoplot parking compound.. And that was it, rode Dominar 400 up to 80 kmph on straight line of the carpark area and turn lipat |
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Oct 8 2018, 02:24 PM) Do like I did, go there (went to Shah Alam/Sg. Buloh Modenas center) and ask to test ride the Dominar 400... Like that should just ride the bike home I drove there and didnt wear riding attire or Helmet, the counter guy still give me the key without asking for my details with note: only ride on the shoplot parking compound.. And that was it, rode Dominar 400 up to 80 kmph on straight line of the carpark area and turn lipat |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Oct 8 2018, 02:45 PM) No guts to become instant criminal, only does that in Video Games Aaronnnnnn liked this post
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Oct 8 2018, 02:24 PM) Do like I did, go there (went to Shah Alam/Sg. Buloh Modenas center) and ask to test ride the Dominar 400... understood, thanks broI drove there and didnt wear riding attire or Helmet, the counter guy still give me the key without asking for my details with note: only ride on the shoplot parking compound.. And that was it, rode Dominar 400 up to 80 kmph on straight line of the carpark area and turn lipat |
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Actually, it is a good bike that can easily take on 10 to 15 more horsepower. Best is if they can give it a 2-cylinder engine. Then it will really be competitive and be able to hold its own against the Japanese 2-cylinder 250 sport bikes.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Oct 8 2018, 08:05 PM) Actually, it is a good bike that can easily take on 10 to 15 more horsepower. Best is if they can give it a 2-cylinder engine. Then it will really be competitive and be able to hold its own against the Japanese 2-cylinder 250 sport bikes. If can get duke 390 tuning should be ok |
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Oct 8 2018, 08:52 PM) That should give an additional 8hp I think. But I wonder how it will work as the Dominar uses a 3 spark plug system while the Duke 390 uses just one for the 43hp that it has. For cars it is common but I wonder if people do engine swaps for bikes |
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Oct 9 2018, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Oct 9 2018, 09:18 AM) That should give an additional 8hp I think. But I wonder how it will work as the Dominar uses a 3 spark plug system while the Duke 390 uses just one for the 43hp that it has. Is the chasis the same ? If not the mounting points might be differentFor cars it is common but I wonder if people do engine swaps for bikes |
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QUOTE(nabelon @ Oct 9 2018, 10:07 AM) Yup, The chassis is definitely different but not sure about the mounting points. If the points are the same, the potong motor shops can expect good business for used Duke 390 engines with low mileage |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Oct 9 2018, 09:18 AM) That should give an additional 8hp I think. But I wonder how it will work as the Dominar uses a 3 spark plug system while the Duke 390 uses just one for the 43hp that it has. Bajaj learned the lesson of 44 horse Power failure on Duke 390 before... the single bore 375cc engine de-tuned 35 horses for longevity....For cars it is common but I wonder if people do engine swaps for bikes |
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dominar vs truck....seriously 5 star ncap....hahaha
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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ Oct 17 2018, 01:26 PM) dominar vs truck....seriously 5 star ncap....hahaha Wow! http://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/mode...-this-showdown/ ![]() |
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the bike got sondol frm behind, and it got stucked n was pushed forward... therefore din show any damage on the frame.. |
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Dec 6 2018, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(Freestyling @ Dec 6 2018, 11:06 PM) How much is the damage? Oh did it your self? The existing exhaust can connect nicely with the original piping? Did it myself, ordered a Midpipe rm 185, from lazada, vendor from KL, and the muffler from lazada China rn 105. Removed the cat and ori exhaust. Took me about 1.5 hours. If you got whatsapp, I can send you the sound of the pipe. |
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Dec 6 2018, 11:50 PM) Did it myself, ordered a Midpipe rm 185, from lazada, vendor from KL, and the muffler from lazada China rn 105. Removed the cat and ori exhaust. Took me about 1.5 hours. If you got whatsapp, I can send you the sound of the pipe. Any improvement after changing to the after market exhaust? |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Dec 7 2018, 10:51 AM) Didnt get to take it out for a run, cos after installing, it started raining. i'll probably take it for a run on Saturday if the weather is ok. From idle it seems more responsive when I'm free revving it, but it could be psychological.....you know...with louder pipes, it feels more powerful..... The bike is definitely lighter though, as the original cat and muffler weighs close to 7kg, while the new midpipe and muffler weighs less than half of that. So at least, even if there is no power gains, there is weight loss....hahaha |
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Dec 7 2018, 11:57 AM) Didnt get to take it out for a run, cos after installing, it started raining. i'll probably take it for a run on Saturday if the weather is ok. From idle it seems more responsive when I'm free revving it, but it could be psychological.....you know...with louder pipes, it feels more powerful..... The bike is definitely lighter though, as the original cat and muffler weighs close to 7kg, while the new midpipe and muffler weighs less than half of that. So at least, even if there is no power gains, there is weight loss....hahaha Did you change to a smaller sprocket for the rear? |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Dec 7 2018, 10:51 AM) There is noticeable difference in response after the change, better midrange and high end but I lose a bit of low end torque. So i have to keep it in the right gear/within the power band and its a lot more fun but there is definitely a loss in the low end. It pulls better though and sounds more aggresive. |
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QUOTE(Hamacci @ Dec 11 2018, 11:08 PM) yesterday i did try book test ride session ; https://modenas.my/dominard400/#enquiryand this morning i got sms, mentioning my test ride will be from 17-21 Dec, from 10-11AM |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Dec 12 2018, 12:09 PM) yesterday i did try book test ride session ; https://modenas.my/dominard400/#enquiry Better call them for bike availability, as like time i also received this message.and this morning i got sms, mentioning my test ride will be from 17-21 Dec, from 10-11AM Go there Demo bike not available. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Dec 12 2018, 12:09 PM) yesterday i did try book test ride session ; https://modenas.my/dominard400/#enquiry Last time I did registration online as well, seems not reliable because I only receive the confirmation message weeks after and it only mention someone will call me to arrange time but never did. and this morning i got sms, mentioning my test ride will be from 17-21 Dec, from 10-11AM |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Dec 12 2018, 10:46 AM) Just called up and they said demo bike is there for test ride this Friday. But has to be after 2.30pm which I'm OK with it... Haha. Gosh, I'm actually quite keen on Z650 / MT07 actually. But my wife don't fancy me spending that much money... Budget kena chopped by more than half... |
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actually .. one fine day during weekdays.. I just drove there then ask for a test ride on the Dominar, without any pre-book schedule whatsoever, and the guy manning the counter just give the key.. provided only goes around their shop lot area.. since i Drive there and not even bring a helmet..
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QUOTE(etgeno @ Dec 11 2018, 08:52 AM) There is noticeable difference in response after the change, better midrange and high end but I lose a bit of low end torque. So i have to keep it in the right gear/within the power band and its a lot more fun but there is definitely a loss in the low end. It pulls better though and sounds more aggresive. A better pic of what the bike looks with an aftermarket exhaust.Attached thumbnail(s) |
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used bike just about 11k.. very berbaloi....
news frm india few months ago .. tht bajaj is working on a scrambler + retro version of dominar.. to compete with RE.. if manage to sell here by modenas will be interesting. . This post has been edited by basilisk: Dec 21 2018, 09:55 AM |
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QUOTE(iOnine @ Jan 22 2019, 12:48 PM) order here..https://www.autologuedesign.com/body-kits/d...jaj-dominar-400 dominar400 has great potential to custom further... |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 22 2019, 01:47 PM) order here.. ya man.https://www.autologuedesign.com/body-kits/d...jaj-dominar-400 dominar400 has great potential to custom further... heard there will be a local company bringing in the kit. dont know how far is true. oh btw, any of you owners join their Rides? just read on bikesrepublic . |
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QUOTE(iOnine @ Jan 22 2019, 02:19 PM) ya man. lowpro here owns dominar...heard there will be a local company bringing in the kit. dont know how far is true. oh btw, any of you owners join their Rides? just read on bikesrepublic . maybe china will copy this domivel set, cos china oredi copy pulsar ns + rs bike... lol... n also alot of covers of superbike etc. |
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Any news on the 2019 model?
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 19 2019, 02:15 PM) got ah... If they made some improvements here and there for better reliability and to solve lingering issues, they might not say it out loud too. As it would imply that the current one is a half-baked product, don't you think?indian news la.. wan modenas news?? think need to clear old stock as usual.... but even in india price increased for jz a bit hp.. and also getting heavier.. worth it ?? |
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QUOTE(JJKTP @ Feb 19 2019, 03:11 PM) If they made some improvements here and there for better reliability and to solve lingering issues, they might not say it out loud too. As it would imply that the current one is a half-baked product, don't you think? there might be more buyers if improvements are announced, no wise to hide it... |
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Hi
Would like to hear review from dominar owner here. Is bike good? Fc? Speed? Is the gear ratio ok? Maintenance? Parts? Thanks |
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QUOTE(hitz @ Mar 6 2019, 02:12 PM) mebe gua..cos susah wana get local dominar info.. fb group only allow owners to join.. msian lazy ass mentality.. who dont wana share infos n fan boyism.. india n other countries they know the value of forums. here.. from fb strait to watsap, telegram etc... |
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I'm in the D400 fb group even not a owner. I tell them I'm interested to get one as second bike. Haha
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Din realise that, the one that I joined was asking me if I'm owner.
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QUOTE(awangcsn10 @ Apr 11 2019, 01:57 AM) what is UPS? or izit USD fork ? with the rebate, i assume they want to clear old stock first before launching new model. or the sales isnt that great, so with rebate hopefully their sales hit the target. |
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My ideal for this bike, junk the 1 cylinder engine. Give it a twin. Up power to 45hp. Then it is really cooking.
For comparison, the Kawa Ninja 400 is a twin and has about 45 horsepower. The 4 cylinder Honda CB400 Super 4 (inline 4) has up to 55 horsepower in the VTEC version. But maybe Bajaj can do that for the next generation. As for now, it should be adequate enough. Just my 2 cents... This post has been edited by lowpro: Apr 22 2019, 10:52 AM |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Apr 22 2019, 10:28 AM) My ideal for this bike, junk the 1 cylinder engine. Give it a twin. Up power to 45hp. Then it is really cooking. You're back.. Miss yuuu.... For comparison, the Kawa Ninja 400 is a twin and has about 45 horsepower. The 4 cylinder Honda CB400 Super 4 (inline 4) has up to 55 horsepower in the VTEC version. But maybe Bajaj can do that for the next generation. As for now, it should be adequate enough. Just my 2 cents... |
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Apr 24 2019, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Apr 22 2019, 10:28 AM) My ideal for this bike, junk the 1 cylinder engine. Give it a twin. Up power to 45hp. Then it is really cooking. Who say 1 cylinder is a junk? Can ninja 400 2 cylinder beat moto3 bikes? For comparison, the Kawa Ninja 400 is a twin and has about 45 horsepower. The 4 cylinder Honda CB400 Super 4 (inline 4) has up to 55 horsepower in the VTEC version. But maybe Bajaj can do that for the next generation. As for now, it should be adequate enough. Just my 2 cents... |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 24 2019, 12:17 PM) Too bad Moto3 bikes are not road legal... Oh, when I said junk the 1-cylinder, I meant to replace it with a 2-cylinder. Not that it is junk ya. And, my context is purely on a on-the-road for public use basis. Not the race track. |
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Apr 29 2019, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Apr 26 2019, 10:42 AM) Too bad Moto3 bikes are not road legal... Oh, when I said junk the 1-cylinder, I meant to replace it with a 2-cylinder. Not that it is junk ya. And, my context is purely on a on-the-road for public use basis. Not the race track. Huhu. Ok what single cylinder? Torque really nice. Just the vibration is emmm... Nutt shaker. Hahaha |
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Apr 29 2019, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 29 2019, 04:31 PM) Huhu. Ok what single cylinder? Torque really nice. Just the vibration is emmm... Nutt shaker. Hahaha Yup, the Dominar is a bit of a nut shaker but it is oklah if you're comfortable with it I hope that Bajaj develops the Dominar 400 into something that can fulfill it's potential. This post has been edited by lowpro: May 2 2019, 09:13 AM |
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Kawasaki Malaysia bought more Modenas share already, so we might see ModeKawa 250.
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May 4 2019, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 2 2019, 09:12 AM) Yup, the Dominar is a bit of a nut shaker but it is oklah if you're comfortable with it Bajaj owns KTM. So i think bajaj wont bother produce own engine. Beside, ktm engine are well proven. If they want 2 cylinder in future, perhaps dominar 1300 (using ktm 1290 adventure engine) I hope that Bajaj develops the Dominar 400 into something that can fulfill it's potential. Kawasaki dominar 400 just a little MoU between both company. Just sign the agreement, bring dominar, change logo. Then consumer see that wow this is new kawasaki althought its dominar. Same case happen to proton ertiga. Mou with suzuki, bring here, change badge. Then people see wow its new proton althoug its suzuki. At the end, people buy it willingly. See here? For marketing, badging play the role |
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QUOTE(hitz @ May 2 2019, 10:01 AM) My thought was maybe modenas still want to use kawasaki engine for their moped models. Ct115, kriss and gt128 still viable choices for consumer. So why not kawasaki want to gain profit by buying more modenas share.Between gt128 or 135lc, i rather take gt128. Cheap, low risk and its kawasaki engine. Hehehe |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 4 2019, 08:55 PM) My thought was maybe modenas still want to use kawasaki engine for their moped models. Ct115, kriss and gt128 still viable choices for consumer. So why not kawasaki want to gain profit by buying more modenas share. But but... only the engine is lasting, the rest of stuffs kaput easily like meter and electronic Between gt128 or 135lc, i rather take gt128. Cheap, low risk and its kawasaki engine. Hehehe |
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May 6 2019, 02:26 PM
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Wonder if Bajaj will develop a full fairing version of the Dominar...will be an interesting addition. Ah, if they can only use the sweet 1-cylinder engine of the RC390, it will make the Dominar 400 so much more fun
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May 14 2019, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 7 2019, 10:05 AM) Wonder if Bajaj will develop a full fairing version of the Dominar...will be an interesting addition. Ah, if they can only use the sweet 1-cylinder engine of the RC390, it will make the Dominar 400 so much more fun Rc390 same engine as 390 dukeThe ktm 390s has a lot of problem. Bajaj learn the lesson here. So of course they do not want dominar have the same as their sisters. Let dominar less agressive for longevity. And i dont think bajaj would put fairing. If you watch tamil/hindustan movie, you will see their bikes prefer naked than fairing. Unless bajaj decided to do it for their outside market By the way, how's your dominar? Ok or not? |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 14 2019, 04:48 PM) Rc390 same engine as 390 duke Thinking of selling it. It is nice as a fun bike but...can be so much nicer. Mine is blue. Most people would have bought the redThe ktm 390s has a lot of problem. Bajaj learn the lesson here. So of course they do not want dominar have the same as their sisters. Let dominar less agressive for longevity. And i dont think bajaj would put fairing. If you watch tamil/hindustan movie, you will see their bikes prefer naked than fairing. Unless bajaj decided to do it for their outside market By the way, how's your dominar? Ok or not? |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 14 2019, 08:58 PM) Yup...I will just ride my 600 for now. The Dominar is a decent bike for the price but it can be much better. Hope that the next evolution will be more universal in execution instead of just focusing on the Indian market for its formula |
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QUOTE(TanJy1814 @ May 14 2019, 11:17 PM) How it can be improved:1) Add one more cylinder! This will give it better performance. 2) Provide an option for a half fairing like XJ6N and XJ6 Diversion. No need full fairing like XJ6 Diversion F. The half fairing gives better wind protection over longer rides. 3) Reduce the vibration coming through the seat. Maybe a second cylinder can solve this... Just my 2 sen worth on how Bajaj can evolve the Dominar in future This post has been edited by lowpro: May 15 2019, 11:39 AM |
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Good for you lowpro
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Honestly speaking, if your expectations aren't too much, it REALLY IS A GOOD BIKE. It performs as well as it's designers intended it to. Getting from A to B with minimum fuss and in decent manner as it handles quite well. Daily use is good too but try not to over tax the engine for extended time over long distances. Gotta understand that it is only a single cylinder and should be kept at a reasonable cruising speed. It can go the distance. Just don't try to keep up with your friends on other more powerful bikes
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May 15 2019, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 15 2019, 11:29 AM) Honestly speaking, if your expectations aren't too much, it REALLY IS A GOOD BIKE. It performs as well as it's designers intended it to. Getting from A to B with minimum fuss and in decent manner as it handles quite well. Daily use is good too but try not to over tax the engine for extended time over long distances. Gotta understand that it is only a single cylinder and should be kept at a reasonable cruising speed. It can go the distance. Just don't try to keep up with your friends on other more powerful bikes Thanks for info. Actually I'm retired from big bikes. Then since workplace now quite far, i guess i need it again. But this time, for daily use. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 15 2019, 11:29 AM) Honestly speaking, if your expectations aren't too much, it REALLY IS A GOOD BIKE. It performs as well as it's designers intended it to. Getting from A to B with minimum fuss and in decent manner as it handles quite well. Daily use is good too but try not to over tax the engine for extended time over long distances. Gotta understand that it is only a single cylinder and should be kept at a reasonable cruising speed. It can go the distance. Just don't try to keep up with your friends on other more powerful bikes indeed. but since bajaj is not like those big brand. they can only use what they have and improve. ( need huge money to spend for new engine RnD) in this case. ktm 390 engine. ( since they also manufacture this engine for ktm) since its cheap to make, and 1 single cylinder actually just hit the purpose of this bike made for. touring and daily use. cheaper price selling with cheaper maintenance. if using those 2 engine that u said, need RnD or source from other manufacturer with huge cost, then they cant keep produce cheap bike anymore. if selling price same with other big brand, hard for them to compete anymore. like z400, the price more than double of D400. 2 cylinder vs 1. im also waiting to buy this bike, but mybe waiting for 2019 version to come here. since im not urgent. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ May 15 2019, 12:40 PM) indeed. Yup, what you said is very true...unless they can get a 2-cylinder engine from their partner Kawasaki. But then they might need to pay royalty for the 2-cylinder as well... might not be strong enough to make a business case though... ah well, can always have hope that maybe someday it might happen but since bajaj is not like those big brand. they can only use what they have and improve. ( need huge money to spend for new engine RnD) in this case. ktm 390 engine. ( since they also manufacture this engine for ktm) since its cheap to make, and 1 single cylinder actually just hit the purpose of this bike made for. touring and daily use. cheaper price selling with cheaper maintenance. if using those 2 engine that u said, need RnD or source from other manufacturer with huge cost, then they cant keep produce cheap bike anymore. if selling price same with other big brand, hard for them to compete anymore. like z400, the price more than double of D400. 2 cylinder vs 1. im also waiting to buy this bike, but mybe waiting for 2019 version to come here. since im not urgent. |
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Saw many adverts in mudah.my about previous version but brand new Duke 390 ABS selling for less than RM18k. Should this be better than 2019 Dominar 400?
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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ May 19 2019, 06:25 AM) Saw many adverts in mudah.my about previous version but brand new Duke 390 ABS selling for less than RM18k. Should this be better than 2019 Dominar 400? Current Dominar400 is not 2019 version as well. So far Ktm has randomly quality issue appear on owner group, slightly more than Dominar but it might due to more KTM owner out there. Which one you prefer if put aside these kind of potential problem? |
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QUOTE(BlackBananaV6 @ May 19 2019, 06:25 AM) Saw many adverts in mudah.my about previous version but brand new Duke 390 ABS selling for less than RM18k. Should this be better than 2019 Dominar 400? Old stock must clear to give away to new oneAnd old one mostly owner says is problematics I believe shop do whatever they can to clear it Even new one that super canggih got problem. Hadoi |
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QUOTE(hong3831 @ May 20 2019, 05:41 PM) Current Dominar400 is not 2019 version as well. So far Ktm has randomly quality issue appear on owner group, slightly more than Dominar but it might due to more KTM owner out there. Which one you prefer if put aside these kind of potential problem? QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 20 2019, 08:44 PM) Old stock must clear to give away to new one Thanks for the infos guysAnd old one mostly owner says is problematics I believe shop do whatever they can to clear it Even new one that super canggih got problem. Hadoi |
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I had been riding kapchai for the past 15 years and currently working on my BFull license, and I wanted to buy a used bike to get myself familiarize with a clutch bike. Initially I went to this bike shop for a used ER6N, but the shop don't recommend this bike and said this bike have valve issue. In their store they have 4 used ER6N that its valve need fixing. Then he recommended me a used Dominar 400 with only 6k mileage for under 10k. Personally I prefer ER6N, which is about 3~4k more expensive than the used Dominar. But the valve issue the shop raised have me concerned. Can anyone advise me if Dominar is a good starting bike? poobalanc liked this post
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Aug 13 2019, 11:56 AM) This valve issue was pretty serious, from what I remember through a family member who owned a 2012 ER6N. I'm not sure how much it costs to fix now, but it used to be around RM1k if you were too late for the Kawasaki Health Check/recall service... |
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Aug 13 2019, 12:13 PM) This valve issue was pretty serious, from what I remember through a family member who owned a 2012 ER6N. I'm not sure how much it costs to fix now, but it used to be around RM1k if you were too late for the Kawasaki Health Check/recall service... Wow, I googled about it and yea, you weren't joking, that valve issue is crazy. Any idea if the issue has been resolved? I saw it happen on Versys too which made me sad, cz Versys 650 is the bike that I target to buy in the future. Anyway, I can consider trying out Dominar as my first bike. I saw quite many on the road and am wondering if it is good starting bike for daily use. |
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Aug 14 2019, 02:12 PM) Wow, I googled about it and yea, you weren't joking, that valve issue is crazy. Any idea if the issue has been resolved? I saw it happen on Versys too which made me sad, cz Versys 650 is the bike that I target to buy in the future. It should be rectified in newer batches and on the successor, the Z650/Ninja 650. But if it's an older ER6N or Versys 650 with the valves not fixed, I wouldn't do it unless you're ready to fork out some money.Anyway, I can consider trying out Dominar as my first bike. I saw quite many on the road and am wondering if it is good starting bike for daily use. You can try out the Dominar since it's cheaper, newer and has better safety in the form of dual-channel ABS. |
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Aug 14 2019, 02:12 PM) Wow, I googled about it and yea, you weren't joking, that valve issue is crazy. Any idea if the issue has been resolved? I saw it happen on Versys too which made me sad, cz Versys 650 is the bike that I target to buy in the future. Latest Versys should be fine, im riding one, bought new last year. So far so good.Anyway, I can consider trying out Dominar as my first bike. I saw quite many on the road and am wondering if it is good starting bike for daily use. But with the price (OTR41k now if not mistaken), if touring style bike is not a must, other bike with ABS might be better choice. |
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QUOTE(Cyclone1 @ Aug 13 2019, 11:56 AM) I had been riding kapchai for the past 15 years and currently working on my BFull license, and I wanted to buy a used bike to get myself familiarize with a clutch bike. Er6n only certain years CKD model affected. CBU units is fine. Try Google for the affected years and avoid it. Before I bought mine I have googled but forgotten already. I got myself a 2008 CBU instead for 10k, 2 months ago. Would say it is a good buy and I'm still enjoying it. Everyday cruising highway at 140-150 easily (RPM just 7k @ 150km/h). Fuel consumption is fine too (around 18.5 km/L)Initially I went to this bike shop for a used ER6N, but the shop don't recommend this bike and said this bike have valve issue. In their store they have 4 used ER6N that its valve need fixing. Then he recommended me a used Dominar 400 with only 6k mileage for under 10k. Personally I prefer ER6N, which is about 3~4k more expensive than the used Dominar. But the valve issue the shop raised have me concerned. Can anyone advise me if Dominar is a good starting bike? |
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modenas is currently doing a 3s roadshow with test ride.
so last weeken had chance to test dominar + ns200 @ yuhuat serdang. according to indian review @ motorbeam "The bike’s biggest negatives are its ride and handling. The front forks’ rake angle is too high which has increased the turning radius massively. So, turns are very difficult on the bike in heavy traffic. " well very true.. more effort needed to turn this dominar, or can say feels like it just doesnt wana turn.. might put off those tht prefer nimble bikes. mebe this will help during high speed + with load for touring. ![]() This post has been edited by basilisk: Sep 12 2019, 03:49 PM |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 12 2019, 03:41 PM) "The bike’s biggest negatives are its ride and handling. The front forks’ rake angle is too high which has increased the turning radius massively. So, turns are very difficult on the bike in heavy traffic. " Later cause low speed wobble. hehe.![]() https://www.rideapart.com/articles/253963/u...rake-and-trail/ QUOTE Steering dampers are often used on sporty motorcycles – which have a very low rake angle – to keep the machine stable, preventing oscillations from becoming a severe speed wobble. Aftermarket steering dampers can be added to machines that don't have them if the owner feels that one is needed. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics https://road.cc/content/feature/219888-how-...e-speed-wobbles |
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i think if compare duke390 with dominar can feel handling 'nite + day..' difference ??
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 9 2019, 07:30 AM) Wow. They testing new dominar. Hope it confirmed entering our marketFyi, you see dominar with kembar siam mufler, that's definitely upgraded dominar : - engine same as duke 390. No DTS and its dohc. Current is DTS and sohc - Hp same as duke 40hp. Our current dominar is 35hp - most obvious makeup only its exhaust. The rest still same (design, dimension & weight) . Maybe new color scheme will be offer. In india they sell green color |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Oct 9 2019, 10:03 AM) Wow. They testing new dominar. Hope it confirmed entering our market exhaust is real.Fyi, you see dominar with kembar siam mufler, that's definitely upgraded dominar : - engine same as duke 390. No DTS and its dohc. Current is DTS and sohc - Hp same as duke 40hp. Our current dominar is 35hp - most obvious makeup only its exhaust. The rest still same (design, dimension & weight) . Maybe new color scheme will be offer. In india they sell green color increased HP. increased RPM to 11 (current is 8 or 9) and cut-off speed increased too i think. This post has been edited by iOnine: Oct 9 2019, 10:09 AM |
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Oct 9 2019, 10:03 AM) Wow. They testing new dominar. Hope it confirmed entering our market ur fact is wrong. please double checkFyi, you see dominar with kembar siam mufler, that's definitely upgraded dominar : - engine same as duke 390. No DTS and its dohc. Current is DTS and sohc - Hp same as duke 40hp. Our current dominar is 35hp - most obvious makeup only its exhaust. The rest still same (design, dimension & weight) . Maybe new color scheme will be offer. In india they sell green color |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 9 2019, 07:30 AM) wah very interested with the ns200i hope they solve the fixing issue before. my ride to work is only 8km lol but I've been riding my MR2 for awhile. Thinking of upgrading it just for the fun of it. |
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Finally, i bought dominar.
Too long to wait for revised model or possibly absolute none. Kapcai also selalu rosak. So no choice, angkat satu. |
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would existing owners recommend this bike?
used to ride moped ages ago and now i have an itch to get back riding... im interesred... would ride on occasions to work and weekend rides... im not into speed just want to enjoy the ride.... |
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Feb 22 2020, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(matrix123 @ Apr 26 2018, 06:16 PM) Depends on what you're comparing it to. Compared to a kapcai, it's heavier and more difficult to push. Compared to a full-on superbike, this bike weighs nothing!I paid RM13200 for a red one, all in - that's OTR inclusive of GST, JPJ paperwork, reg no, insurance and roadtax. That's just about the most amount of displacement you can get for the least amount of money. It's decent enough that I won't have to worry about running costs, big enough not to get me killed by car drivers, small enough to be light and nimble in town, comfy enough to munch the daily miles with ease, and cool enough to feature a heap of bells and whistles despite the low asking price. The biggest downside is that owning this bike won't earn me any bragging rights. But it gets me to work, keeps me out of debt and keeps the missus happy. I was surprised by the ride quality. The suspension is firm enough to let it handle well on the road, but it isn't bone-jarring. hoahmaru56, prolexus, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 22 2020, 06:57 PM) Depends on what you're comparing it to. Compared to a kapcai, it's heavier and more difficult to push. Compared to a full-on superbike, this bike weighs nothing! used? or new?I paid RM13200 for a red one, all in - that's OTR inclusive of GST, JPJ paperwork, reg no, insurance and roadtax. That's just about the most amount of displacement you can get for the least amount of money. |
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Feb 22 2020, 08:12 PM
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I saw the new version Dominar UG 400, with 40hp, radial breaks, inverted fork and 5 more HP, gear indicator... It seems like a very good upgrade. I hope it comes soon to Malaysia!
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Feb 27 2020, 01:34 PM
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modenas bz wit kawa now..
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Feb 29 2020, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 27 2020, 01:34 PM) I hope they bring it. It's a good upgrade, I would buy poobalanc liked this post
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Feb 29 2020, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 12 2019, 04:41 PM) according to indian review @ motorbeam I think I disagree with the rake angle bollocks. Indian journalists talk cock lah, super bombastic all the time. Of course it won't cilok like a kapcai, because it ISN'T a kapcai... shocker eh?"The bike’s biggest negatives are its ride and handling. The front forks’ rake angle is too high which has increased the turning radius massively. So, turns are very difficult on the bike in heavy traffic. " IMHO, it's down to the bike's long wheelbase. 1450mm or so. Heck... a Z900's wheelbase is about the same but you don't hear these hacks complaining about the Kawasaki not being able to turn on a dime. It rides fine, with the suspension being on just the right side of firm. At the end of the day, it's just a comfy streetbike that you can ride or commute some distance on comfortably. And it doesn't even pretend to be anything else. My biggest beef though is the vibration... but being a single, maybe it's to be expected. I suspect mine will rattle ltself loose by year end.... prolexus liked this post
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Mar 2 2020, 01:22 PM
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Mar 2 2020, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(taraobil @ Feb 27 2020, 01:16 PM) I saw the new version Dominar UG 400, with 40hp, radial breaks, inverted fork and 5 more HP, gear indicator... It seems like a very good upgrade. I hope it comes soon to Malaysia! Saw picture they tested. Until now no news. Me can't wait so me bought current model alreadyhttps://www.zigwheels.com/news-features/new...-to-know/33195/ |
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Mar 2 2020, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Feb 29 2020, 07:41 PM) I think I disagree with the rake angle bollocks. Indian journalists talk cock lah, super bombastic all the time. Of course it won't cilok like a kapcai, because it ISN'T a kapcai... shocker eh? Yeah. Agreeed with mr zzr. PilotIMHO, it's down to the bike's long wheelbase. 1450mm or so. Heck... a Z900's wheelbase is about the same but you don't hear these hacks complaining about the Kawasaki not being able to turn on a dime. It rides fine, with the suspension being on just the right side of firm. At the end of the day, it's just a comfy streetbike that you can ride or commute some distance on comfortably. And it doesn't even pretend to be anything else. My biggest beef though is the vibration... but being a single, maybe it's to be expected. I suspect mine will rattle ltself loose by year end.... Im also dominar owner for 2 month plus. Ride is comfy, nimble (althought is heavy), quick accelerate... All ride fine. I ride to work everyday with pillion & 43 liter givi mule box at the back. So far no complain. Vibration like zzr pilot said are obvious but thats' characteristic on single cylinder. After a year ownership then need to check every screw got loose or not While mr zzr pilot have its own tought of its disadvantage, mine have too. Handle turning radius not really good for my likings, need to push bike back and forth on tight parking area. Also got issue after 1 week (noisy brake pad, hard to start) fortunately it's solved after put wind blast on brake pad & stratch sand paper on battery terminal. Then all good to go |
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Mar 2 2020, 01:42 PM
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long wheelbase is bcos longer swing arm or more rake, or both. the turning radius is also mentioned by those reviewers, n cos by longer wheelbase..
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Mar 2 2020, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Mar 2 2020, 02:22 PM) Motor lama sudah hangus rentung dalan kebakaran workshop di Pdg Jawa. Motor xde hutang, insurans 3rd party.... maka meloponglah....Korek-korek bawa sofa, selak belakang almari, jenguk bawah katil etc jumpalah duit sikit.... nyaris bikin d/p beli Z900.... tapi fikir punya fikir... dah la tanggung kerugian motor hangus, aku rasa elok jgn tambah hutang lagi buat masa terdekat ni... so beli Dominar je la. Bebas hutang, bebas bebanan. Bab tarik-sorong nak masuk parking tu aku dah biasa masa pakai motor lama... hehehe... time parking kena forward planning sikit, takleh cam kapcai main redah je parking mana-mana... Korak perasan x brek dia macam haram? Jakun punya pasal sbb x pernah pakai ABS, aku lenjan la test... it works, mmg confirm xleh stoppie... hehehh... tapi kan, lepas 5-6 kali dok main brek secara ganas test limit ABS, brek tu mula fade!! Gilerrr.... boleh rasa brek makin mengurang cengkaman! So sendiri mau ingatlah, bawa motor jgn sampai pressure giler kat brek tu. Korek punya korek, aku rasa ada pilihan brakepad jenis sintered (HH) yg boleh masuk... GSXR dulu pakai Ferodo sintered, TNT600 pun tukar pakai Vesrah sintered... mmg beshhh main stoppie sensorang kat car park... Lagi satu... agaknya ada kemungkinan Dominar 400 UG yang disangka bakal muncul tu sebenarnya Dominar 250? Rupa cam sama, cuma lubang silinder sempit separuh. https://motomalaya.net/blog/2020/01/18/baja...an-dominar-250/ |
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Mar 2 2020, 03:52 PM
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Nice one. Hahaha.
After this sikit2 tambah aksesori. Me got mule box. After this target windshield. |
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QUOTE(taraobil @ Feb 29 2020, 09:31 AM) https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/pric...0-dominar-d400/modenas drop price of rs200 n dominar.. but why no price drop for ns200?? cos wan more to buy rs + dominar...?? |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Mar 9 2020, 01:01 PM) https://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/pric...0-dominar-d400/ Maybe because NS200 recently just update with ABS and they treat it as "new product"?modenas drop price of rs200 n dominar.. but why no price drop for ns200?? cos wan more to buy rs + dominar...?? |
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Mar 25 2020, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Mar 9 2020, 02:33 PM) Kalo jumpa windshield touring yg tinggi2 tu, roger-roger sikit naaa... puas aku cari, x jumpaaaaa... Boleh pergi kedai AMS Motorsport jalan gombak lama. You can cuci mata dulu also at his FB Aizat Mobile Service Bajaj/Modenas. Their poison really kaw2.Me also plan to put windshield. Wait for AMS to stock in new windshield product Windbro as it specially made for dominar this coming April |
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Mar 25 2020, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Mar 25 2020, 10:27 AM) Boleh pergi kedai AMS Motorsport jalan gombak lama. You can cuci mata dulu also at his FB Aizat Mobile Service Bajaj/Modenas. Their poison really kaw2. Dah pi dulu. Barang takde. Pakai winshield tebuk je la for now. Bergetar semacam, lepas MCO kena cari rubber washer supaya senyap sikit...Me also plan to put windshield. Wait for AMS to stock in new windshield product Windbro as it specially made for dominar this coming April |
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Apr 4 2020, 05:41 PM
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Dominar touring windscreen is back in stock. Available in 40cm, 45cm & 50cm sizes. Selling like hot cake!
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Apr 10 2020, 06:18 AM
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just checking, currently on eyeing for a dominar,
looking at previous post if whether the current D400 is the upgraded version https://youtu.be/3vpOvJmozw8 youtube This post has been edited by anil1328: Apr 10 2020, 03:11 PM |
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Apr 11 2020, 02:24 PM
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Hey I went downstairs to periodically start my D400 that has been sitting idle throughout MCO.
This time I decided to take it for a spin around the parking floor of my condo.... and discovered that the front brake has stopped working! The brake lever felt dead - it would squeeze & bottom out. No braking at all. My bike only has 1400km on the clock. Anybody has the same prob? |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Apr 11 2020, 02:24 PM) Hey I went downstairs to periodically start my D400 that has been sitting idle throughout MCO. May have something to do with ABS.This time I decided to take it for a spin around the parking floor of my condo.... and discovered that the front brake has stopped working! The brake lever felt dead - it would squeeze & bottom out. No braking at all. My bike only has 1400km on the clock. Anybody has the same prob? Need to service, or push the brake pads back in and pump it back out. |
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May 12 2020, 10:00 AM
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May 12 2020, 10:02 AM
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May 12 2020, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(matkewl @ May 12 2020, 11:02 AM) may be hydraulic not function for long time. you may need to pump often until the brake fluid start flowing smoothly. Ya... last week since we're allowed to leave home, first thing I did was hop on my bike. Spent an hour going around the parking lot, forcing the brake until the brake pressure started to come back.I think it was the ABS. Once it felt OK, I took it for a long ride up and down MRR2 and it felt normal again. Lesson learned - ini motor, ABS bukan boleh percaya sangat. |
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QUOTE(yuiy_ator @ May 12 2020, 10:00 AM) maybe to finish current stock before introducing new dominar 2020 |
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Jun 3 2020, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ May 12 2020, 12:34 PM) Ya... last week since we're allowed to leave home, first thing I did was hop on my bike. Spent an hour going around the parking lot, forcing the brake until the brake pressure started to come back. Mine also. Mine feel a bit kosong tapi sekejap je ok. Right now can go work daily, brakes function like normalI think it was the ABS. Once it felt OK, I took it for a long ride up and down MRR2 and it felt normal again. Lesson learned - ini motor, ABS bukan boleh percaya sangat. |
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QUOTE(knight_kriss @ May 13 2020, 09:04 AM) I doubt they will bring the new Dominar, due to the latest cooperation with Kawasaki.. they might substitute it entirely with Ninja 250 since it has more market appeal due to B2 Lesen compliant.Nothing new for Rojak knockdown assembly Company Modenas.. SYM - Kymco - Kawasaki - BAJAJ - China Bike (those new Kriss) |
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Jun 3 2020, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 3 2020, 09:37 AM) I doubt they will bring the new Dominar, due to the latest cooperation with Kawasaki.. they might substitute it entirely with Ninja 250 since it has more market appeal due to B2 Lesen compliant. I think so too, but it's a shame because the upgraded Dominar looks like a very good improvement to the current one. I hope at least modenas does a 400 cc bike with kawasaki. We'll see, no news so far.Nothing new for Rojak knockdown assembly Company Modenas.. SYM - Kymco - Kawasaki - BAJAJ - China Bike (those new Kriss) |
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Jun 29 2020, 06:28 PM
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Bini aku komplen, Sabtu hari tu ride balik hari gi Melaka bontot dia kebas 2 hari x hilang.
Bergetar semacam motor ni. Aku ingat nnt senang aku nak gi modify seat cushion kasi empuk mcm sofa... |
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 3 2020, 09:37 AM) I doubt they will bring the new Dominar, due to the latest cooperation with Kawasaki.. they might substitute it entirely with Ninja 250 since it has more market appeal due to B2 Lesen compliant. Dominar is a nice looking bike with an underwhelming engine. Needs at least a twin to do justice to its sporty looks. 400cc is good but just too underpowered and a single at that too... Nothing new for Rojak knockdown assembly Company Modenas.. SYM - Kymco - Kawasaki - BAJAJ - China Bike (those new Kriss) |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM) Dominar is a nice looking bike with an underwhelming engine. Needs at least a twin to do justice to its sporty looks. 400cc is good but just too underpowered and a single at that too... because its design for touring, save fuel and maintenance. its not sports bike. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 30 2020, 10:35 AM) Dominar is a nice looking bike with an underwhelming engine. Needs at least a twin to do justice to its sporty looks. 400cc is good but just too underpowered and a single at that too... Bajaj learn from overtuning KTM duke 390 engine which the 1st gen always giving problem.. also to compensate the dirty and low quality fuel sold in the sub continent. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 30 2020, 10:51 AM) Ya, for 'hyper riding'...a term Bajaj coined because they can't position it for anything else. BUT, IMHO, it should not have to use the excuse of 'touring, save fuel and maintenance' just because it is overall underwhelming. It should have respectable performance and not let kapchais embarrass it. |
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 30 2020, 11:39 AM) Bajaj learn from overtuning KTM duke 390 engine which the 1st gen always giving problem.. also to compensate the dirty and low quality fuel sold in the sub continent. IMHO, they should learn and progress. Seems like they learnt and took the regress route instead to save themselves the trouble. But for santai riders, it is good enough I guess. Maybe I expected so much more from it. To me personally, I was disappointed because it looked so good but didn't hv the oomph to match the super looks. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 1 2020, 09:41 AM) IMHO, they should learn and progress. Seems like they learnt and took the regress route instead to save themselves the trouble. But for santai riders, it is good enough I guess. Maybe I expected so much more from it. To me personally, I was disappointed because it looked so good but didn't hv the oomph to match the super looks. Broder.. Road in India (where most of the R&D happened) 120 km/h is consider a high speed already... |
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jul 1 2020, 09:43 AM) Broder.. Road in India (where most of the R&D happened) 120 km/h is consider a high speed already... Ya lah. Hahahahaha! Haizzz, they should tap on their partner Modenas here to suss out what Malaysians want. I think that if they actually gave it a bit more respectable performance, it would have sold more. Building a 400 just for santai doesn't make sense as perception is that it should at least not let kapchai and some 250 whack it lah. Malu and no face. If like that, the smaller Pulsar 200 is good enough already. At least if kena whack by kapchai and other 250, can still find a good excuse. For a 400...I dunno where to hide my face! |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 1 2020, 09:49 AM) Ya lah. Hahahahaha! Haizzz, they should tap on their partner Modenas here to suss out what Malaysians want. I think that if they actually gave it a bit more respectable performance, it would have sold more. Building a 400 just for santai doesn't make sense as perception is that it should at least not let kapchai and some 250 whack it lah. Malu and no face. If like that, the smaller Pulsar 200 is good enough already. At least if kena whack by kapchai and other 250, can still find a good excuse. For a 400...I dunno where to hide my face! its because malaysian rider mentality. want fast bike only. what they want: fast bike, more than 1 cylinder, cheap price, cheap maintenance, no need B full licence, and known branded bike. ( later friend said u buy local/stupid brand, u dont know where to hide ur face, better buy y15) if u want to compare, its same as ktm duke 250/390. why the sales not that good. ( plus expensive price tag) but for those true rider, they know each bike design differently and hv diff purpose. bajaj built dominar using ktm 390 as base is due to cheap RnR. they are not those big brand that have more money to built from scratch. they hv built the engine before, so why not use it and tune to their bike characteristic. indian is not rich country and hv bad road ( cant do top speed as always compare here in malaysia). why need to built another KTM duke in crowded market, why not built bike that their people always do, commuting/touring with cheap price, using parts that already in market. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jul 1 2020, 10:56 AM) its because malaysian rider mentality. want fast bike only. To be fair, I don't mind the brand. No issues with Modenas. Modenas has so far provided decent stuff to Malaysians. Also, the quality of the Dominar is decent. Not fantastic but certainly not as bad as some China sourced bikes and it is totally acceptable. But I am wondering why it was not partially re-engineered for the market here. Yes it may have added to the cost but they could have done it slightly better rather than just taking something that was clearly developed for another market in mind. But yes, I also understand that the low cc bike market here is very price sensitive so, yeah, I know about that point as well.what they want: fast bike, more than 1 cylinder, cheap price, cheap maintenance, no need B full licence, and known branded bike. ( later friend said u buy local/stupid brand, u dont know where to hide ur face, better buy y15) if u want to compare, its same as ktm duke 250/390. why the sales not that good. ( plus expensive price tag) but for those true rider, they know each bike design differently and hv diff purpose. bajaj built dominar using ktm 390 as base is due to cheap RnR. they are not those big brand that have more money to built from scratch. they hv built the engine before, so why not use it and tune to their bike characteristic. indian is not rich country and hv bad road ( cant do top speed as always compare here in malaysia). why need to built another KTM duke in crowded market, why not built bike that their people always do, commuting/touring with cheap price, using parts that already in market. By the way, I don't mind the brand. That is why I went for it instead of the Y15 kapchai. Don't get me wrong. I am all for the underdog. But I always that hope the underdogs can always punch above their weight. |
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 1 2020, 11:41 AM) To be fair, I don't mind the brand. No issues with Modenas. Modenas has so far provided decent stuff to Malaysians. Also, the quality of the Dominar is decent. Not fantastic but certainly not as bad as some China sourced bikes and it is totally acceptable. But I am wondering why it was not partially re-engineered for the market here. Yes it may have added to the cost but they could have done it slightly better rather than just taking something that was clearly developed for another market in mind. But yes, I also understand that the low cc bike market here is very price sensitive so, yeah, I know about that point as well. keyword= cost. By the way, I don't mind the brand. That is why I went for it instead of the Y15 kapchai. Don't get me wrong. I am all for the underdog. But I always that hope the underdogs can always punch above their weight. and because they simply rebadge with 100% same spec, just put modenas sticker. thats why they can keep the price low. no other brand able to compete. and because engine is single cylinder, even bajaj themselves hard to get more horse power from it after tune ( even faceliift 2019 just get 5hp increase). u cant expect modenas to tune and get more power than that its single cylinder, its not design for speed. even KTM single cylinder 390 is praise because of its torque , power to weight ratio. not because of top speed. |
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Hi guys, newbie learning B full lesen here.
Just want to enquire regarding this Dominar 400 I am in JB, usually my riding habit would be like 30-40km everyday, while long distance would be JB - KL / Ipoh maybe once or twice per month. Is this suitable for my needs? normally best cruising speed would be how much? Thanks! |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 3 2020, 01:48 AM) Hi guys, newbie learning B full lesen here. The bike is cukup for your purpose, with dual channel ABS and slipper clutch.Just want to enquire regarding this Dominar 400 I am in JB, usually my riding habit would be like 30-40km everyday, while long distance would be JB - KL / Ipoh maybe once or twice per month. Is this suitable for my needs? normally best cruising speed would be how much? Thanks! Topspeed is not as fast as R25 or Ninja 250R but even a CBR500 is not faster then them either. According to users here, seat not as comfy and long distance ride can kebas one. Need add windshield. Maybe you can provide your riding background and expectation of this D400? Additional info that I came across, and I have no affiliation to pandulaju: https://pandulaju.com.my/10-soalan-paling-b...s-dominar-d400/ https://pandulaju.com.my/4-reviu-pantas-mod...-kawasaki-z250/ ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 3 2020, 09:03 AM) The bike is cukup for your purpose, with dual channel ABS and slipper clutch. Alexei, thank you for your reply!Topspeed is not as fast as R25 or Ninja 250R but even a CBR500 is not faster then them either. According to users here, seat not as comfy and long distance ride can kebas one. Need add windshield. Maybe you can provide your riding background and expectation of this D400? Additional info that I came across, and I have no affiliation to pandulaju: https://pandulaju.com.my/10-soalan-paling-b...s-dominar-d400/ https://pandulaju.com.my/4-reviu-pantas-mod...-kawasaki-z250/ I have zero experience in riding, well, i am looking for stability and reliability than speed or excitement as my first bike. Was thinking 400cc enough for interstate travel. I am driving a Golf TSI which can achieve 150-180 very easily, so i am looking for something similar for the bike riding but with very good stability. My only concern on this d400, is whether it will rattle or vibrate above 140kmh, or is it requiring a lot of effort to achieve that kind of speed range? Should i spend more on bikes like Yamaha mt-07? safety wise i think d400 is already very good. Of course, learning to ride a bike first, then after a few more months of riding then i would go highway distance travel. Being safe and responsible is my principal of driving/riding anything. This post has been edited by ocb05: Jul 3 2020, 11:53 PM |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 12:51 AM) My only concern on this d400, is whether it will rattle or vibrate above 140kmh, or is it requiring a lot of effort to achieve that kind of speed range? Should i spend more on bikes like Yamaha mt-07? safety wise i think d400 is already very good. "THE GREAT VIBRATOR". Nothing else makes my wife's ass numb for 2 days straight like a day ride to Melaka on my D400. Does that answer your question? |
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cf400nk also can be considered. 2 cylinder with 400cc.
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 3 2020, 11:51 PM) Alexei, thank you for your reply! Get a bike that you won't mind dropping it too much, for learning, one with good off throttle and clutch release response, less jerky and predictable.I have zero experience in riding, well, i am looking for stability and reliability than speed or excitement as my first bike. Was thinking 400cc enough for interstate travel. I am driving a Golf TSI which can achieve 150-180 very easily, so i am looking for something similar for the bike riding but with very good stability. My only concern on this d400, is whether it will rattle or vibrate above 140kmh, or is it requiring a lot of effort to achieve that kind of speed range? Should i spend more on bikes like Yamaha mt-07? safety wise i think d400 is already very good. Of course, learning to ride a bike first, then after a few more months of riding then i would go highway distance travel. Being safe and responsible is my principal of driving/riding anything. It's a single cylinder, so expect a lot of vibrations, and it will have 4 sets across RPM range. Some will be not obvious being absorbed by mounting dampers, but some will resonate across the whole bike. 3 cylinder is the best in vibe control, followed by twin with 270~275 degree firing sequence. Between MT07 and D400, I would compare the frame and decide. MT07 punya ABS is front only IINM, and a bit intrusive based on reviews. Engine wise, MT07 is definitely the better rounder. Gear ratio is similar between the 2. 140kmh is quite a stretch for D400 with stock sprockets. Sproket for D400 needs to be adapted for different speed range. ![]() ![]() QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 4 2020, 01:12 AM) I call my D400... Oh my goodness... seat mechanism need add damper."THE GREAT VIBRATOR". Nothing else makes my wife's ass numb for 2 days straight like a day ride to Melaka on my D400. Does that answer your question? |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 4 2020, 01:12 AM) I call my D400... Answered definitely thanks haha! Although the "wife's ass numb for 2 days straights sounds so wrong LOL"THE GREAT VIBRATOR". Nothing else makes my wife's ass numb for 2 days straight like a day ride to Melaka on my D400. Does that answer your question? |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 4 2020, 05:31 PM) Get a bike that you won't mind dropping it too much, for learning, one with good off throttle and clutch release response, less jerky and predictable. Thanks wow i learnt something from you. What do you think of Kawasaki Versys X 250? Is it good or too lethargic for me with my luggage? I am 180cm and 83kg by the way. Or is it better if i go for Versys 650? To be honest, i have no idea on the ownership cost per year on each segment of the bike.It's a single cylinder, so expect a lot of vibrations, and it will have 4 sets across RPM range. Some will be not obvious being absorbed by mounting dampers, but some will resonate across the whole bike. 3 cylinder is the best in vibe control, followed by twin with 270~275 degree firing sequence. Between MT07 and D400, I would compare the frame and decide. MT07 punya ABS is front only IINM, and a bit intrusive based on reviews. Engine wise, MT07 is definitely the better rounder. Gear ratio is similar between the 2. 140kmh is quite a stretch for D400 with stock sprockets. Sproket for D400 needs to be adapted for different speed range. ![]() ![]() Oh my goodness... seat mechanism need add damper. |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 08:21 PM) Thanks wow i learnt something from you. What do you think of Kawasaki Versys X 250? Is it good or too lethargic for me with my luggage? I am 180cm and 83kg by the way. Or is it better if i go for Versys 650? To be honest, i have no idea on the ownership cost per year on each segment of the bike. heard the x250 will feel sluggish with luggage. Check out the fortnine review on youtube |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 08:21 PM) Thanks wow i learnt something from you. What do you think of Kawasaki Versys X 250? Is it good or too lethargic for me with my luggage? I am 180cm and 83kg by the way. Or is it better if i go for Versys 650? To be honest, i have no idea on the ownership cost per year on each segment of the bike. The VersysX 250 bikes out of my radar, sorry.You're blessed with height and weight for touring bikes, how about some middle weight BMW such as F800R etc. Who knows you might leave your TSi behind afterwards. You can try out some online insurance calculator for insurance. 30k is around 600 with 25% NCD. Roadtax is 250 for 800cc or below, 350 above. Details below. ![]() Touring tyres are ~1k per set, up to 10k km. Sports tyres are more like 3k~8k km per set. You can go cheap on non-major brands too. Engine oil varies greatly too, from RM20~30 per liter, up to RM90. Some bikes take 3, up to 4 bottles. Petrol is 4.2~7L per 100km, ranging from CB500 to CBR1000RR. Spark plugs, air filter. Valve clearance every 24k km. Chain and sprocket set every 30k km. In your case, would be 10~15k km per year? Insurance roadtax ~1k Fuel ~750L = ~1200 1~1.5 sets of tyres... and so on |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 4 2020, 10:07 PM) The VersysX 250 bikes out of my radar, sorry. Again, thank you so much to even spare your time for me providing these useful figures. BMW is great, but continentals would be expensive to maintain and this i learnt from my golf tsi. In fact, i am looking a bike that would satisfy me as a golf TSI would, that car has pampered me with torque, top speed of 170-200kmh with stability, sad that i have to sell it as it is approaching 8th year and having big repairs incoming my DSG gearbox, it is this car has made me lost interest with other continentals except for the GTi variant.You're blessed with height and weight for touring bikes, how about some middle weight BMW such as F800R etc. Who knows you might leave your TSi behind afterwards. You can try out some online insurance calculator for insurance. 30k is around 600 with 25% NCD. Roadtax is 250 for 800cc or below, 350 above. Details below. ![]() Touring tyres are ~1k per set, up to 10k km. Sports tyres are more like 3k~8k km per set. You can go cheap on non-major brands too. Engine oil varies greatly too, from RM20~30 per liter, up to RM90. Some bikes take 3, up to 4 bottles. Petrol is 4.2~7L per 100km, ranging from CB500 to CBR1000RR. Spark plugs, air filter. Valve clearance every 24k km. Chain and sprocket set every 30k km. In your case, would be 10~15k km per year? Insurance roadtax ~1k Fuel ~750L = ~1200 1~1.5 sets of tyres... and so on Tyres i would prefer to go for sports or the local cheaper touring as i would mainly doing daily commuting more than touring across states unless i am on outstation, which is once or twice per month. Now that i seen the insurance and the road tax, i can rest assured as it is affordable to me even up to 800cc. Middleweight wise i think i will go for Yamaha MT-07, what do you think? Looks good, and quite stable no? if i am buying a used yamaha mt-07, say 2015/2016, 16-18k possible? |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 10:26 PM) Again, thank you so much to even spare your time for me providing these useful figures. BMW is great, but continentals would be expensive to maintain and this i learnt from my golf tsi. In fact, i am looking a bike that would satisfy me as a golf TSI would, that car has pampered me with torque, top speed of 170-200kmh with stability, sad that i have to sell it as it is approaching 8th year and having big repairs incoming my DSG gearbox, it is this car has made me lost interest with other continentals except for the GTi variant. Haha, cool. You're welcome. Try AMG. (Disclaimer, I not working for Mercedes, not driving one, and don't receive benefits for saying this.)Tyres i would prefer to go for sports or the local cheaper touring as i would mainly doing daily commuting more than touring across states unless i am on outstation, which is once or twice per month. Now that i seen the insurance and the road tax, i can rest assured as it is affordable to me even up to 800cc. Middleweight wise i think i will go for Yamaha MT-07, what do you think? Looks good, and quite stable no? if i am buying a used yamaha mt-07, say 2015/2016, 16-18k possible? At that price, you might need to deal direct with buyer, and handle the wear and tear yourself. Some shops may ask a higher price, but offers 1 year warranty. ER6 is replaced by Z650, you might wanna look at this too. VW is expensive because it has not been bought over by China. So is a certain French brand. Just ignore me if I'm wrong. Point is, don't let the perception of conti brands cloud your judgement. On bikes, certain Italian bike brand is expensive to maintain but they are improving albeit slowly, while some other conti brands do not have such as good service support in Malaysia and rely on good pomen. And to avoid hefty bills and lengthy waits, avoid certain brands that are weak in parts supply in Malaysia. A tip, just google '(brand) motorcycle parts Malaysia' and you can assess the search results. Some major brands do not have a parts supply chain. Do be ready to have a fair expectation of the bike you plan to buy. 140kmh on first gear, then 200kmh is 3rd gear on most liter sportsbikes. 200kmh is 4~5th gear for 600cc sportsbikes and high performance tourers, 6th gear for most >600cc bikes in general. ER6 and MT07 has ~200-210kmh top speed, and both have conventional forks. For your weight, the MT07 has better forks for you compared to ER6. If TSi level is what you're after, do consider something with decent chassis, forks, brakes and aerodynamic. Weak suspension also causes poor tyre wear, too. On naked bikes, 160kmh is about the fastest you can go comfortably. Bike tyres got sports touring, features dual/multi compound that's good for high mileage at the middle thread, and better grip on the sides. They perform better in the rain, too. With bikes, you better not go cheap on tyres. Bridgestone T31 is a good start. Some sports tyres also dual compound, with less thread for better grip... S22 is a good start. There is a myriad of choices out there. (Disclaimer, I do not have affiliation with Bridgestone, and I don't use those tyres myself.) ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 10:26 PM) Again, thank you so much to even spare your time for me providing these useful figures. BMW is great, but continentals would be expensive to maintain and this i learnt from my golf tsi. In fact, i am looking a bike that would satisfy me as a golf TSI would, that car has pampered me with torque, top speed of 170-200kmh with stability, sad that i have to sell it as it is approaching 8th year and having big repairs incoming my DSG gearbox, it is this car has made me lost interest with other continentals except for the GTi variant. MT-07 is not at that price point yet, even direct buyers. You will be looking at close to 22-25k range, directs may cut down to 20k if you manage to nego it down. Plus another 1k for otr price.Tyres i would prefer to go for sports or the local cheaper touring as i would mainly doing daily commuting more than touring across states unless i am on outstation, which is once or twice per month. Now that i seen the insurance and the road tax, i can rest assured as it is affordable to me even up to 800cc. Middleweight wise i think i will go for Yamaha MT-07, what do you think? Looks good, and quite stable no? if i am buying a used yamaha mt-07, say 2015/2016, 16-18k possible? I am looking as well for a mid-weight, er6 and cb500 is the only one in the price range for nakeds sadly. anything newer will push it to 20k+. Other types would be rebel s, versys, xj6. ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 4 2020, 11:47 PM) Haha, cool. You're welcome. Try AMG. (Disclaimer, I not working for Mercedes, not driving one, and don't receive benefits for saying this.) Yep, i am contemplating whether to buy used mt-07 or just get the new 2019/2020 version altogether. Thanks for your tips on the parts supply! As for the Italian brands, it is a big no no to me. To me, it is either i go straight for 600-700cc range and spend more on upkeep cost, or settle with 300-400cc single cylinder with solid frames. I am really into sports touring, so when i don't go long distance, i can use it as daily beater. At that price, you might need to deal direct with buyer, and handle the wear and tear yourself. Some shops may ask a higher price, but offers 1 year warranty. ER6 is replaced by Z650, you might wanna look at this too. VW is expensive because it has not been bought over by China. So is a certain French brand. Just ignore me if I'm wrong. Point is, don't let the perception of conti brands cloud your judgement. On bikes, certain Italian bike brand is expensive to maintain but they are improving albeit slowly, while some other conti brands do not have such as good service support in Malaysia and rely on good pomen. And to avoid hefty bills and lengthy waits, avoid certain brands that are weak in parts supply in Malaysia. A tip, just google '(brand) motorcycle parts Malaysia' and you can assess the search results. Some major brands do not have a parts supply chain. Do be ready to have a fair expectation of the bike you plan to buy. 140kmh on first gear, then 200kmh is 3rd gear on most liter sportsbikes. 200kmh is 4~5th gear for 600cc sportsbikes and high performance tourers, 6th gear for most >600cc bikes in general. ER6 and MT07 has ~200-210kmh top speed, and both have conventional forks. For your weight, the MT07 has better forks for you compared to ER6. If TSi level is what you're after, do consider something with decent chassis, forks, brakes and aerodynamic. Weak suspension also causes poor tyre wear, too. On naked bikes, 160kmh is about the fastest you can go comfortably. Bike tyres got sports touring, features dual/multi compound that's good for high mileage at the middle thread, and better grip on the sides. They perform better in the rain, too. With bikes, you better not go cheap on tyres. Bridgestone T31 is a good start. Some sports tyres also dual compound, with less thread for better grip... S22 is a good start. There is a myriad of choices out there. (Disclaimer, I do not have affiliation with Bridgestone, and I don't use those tyres myself.) ER6 and MT-07 i would prefer MT-07. But have to test them out to be sure. And yes naked bike while good in daily commuting, but lacking in long distance travel. Any modification i guess i ask you later, gotta get the basics right first. I guess i better start with something basic and safe for touring then see how it goes. 140-160 it is then. Which is why i am looking at this dominar in the first place. But today i stumbled upon another China Brand, Zontes. I am really attracted by the Z310T touring version. They include the alloy box as well! What do you think? Single cylinder as well. |
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QUOTE(jacktay94 @ Jul 5 2020, 12:16 AM) MT-07 is not at that price point yet, even direct buyers. You will be looking at close to 22-25k range, directs may cut down to 20k if you manage to nego it down. Plus another 1k for otr price. agreed, but what i worry is the actual motor condition, i am new, so i might be duped or some problems might be hidden from me.I am looking as well for a mid-weight, er6 and cb500 is the only one in the price range for nakeds sadly. anything newer will push it to 20k+. Other types would be rebel s, versys, xj6. |
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QUOTE(redjol @ Jul 4 2020, 08:49 AM) That's a sweet bike. Well if we're going to consider that area, then there's also the Zontes 300cc singles. I particularly like the ADV version.Unfortunately, these are all closer to RM20k. And if we're willing to consider the 250cc class, then the TRK251, CSC RX3 and Leoncino 250 are all definitely within our budget. Japanese 250cc bikes... forget it... unless second hand, then maybe. Bottom line... Dominar D400 remains the only option to get that many CCs in a triple spark KTM-based engine at RM13k OTR, if you fancy a tight, virgin bike whose seat is still unsullied by other men's sweaty crotch. |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 5 2020, 09:59 PM) That's a sweet bike. Well if we're going to consider that area, then there's also the Zontes 300cc singles. I particularly like the ADV version. the thing is, a lot people waiting for new domino 400 which has better features but no news on the launching yet as of nowUnfortunately, these are all closer to RM20k. And if we're willing to consider the 250cc class, then the TRK251, CSC RX3 and Leoncino 250 are all definitely within our budget. Japanese 250cc bikes... forget it... unless second hand, then maybe. Bottom line... Dominar D400 remains the only option to get that many CCs in a triple spark KTM-based engine at RM13k OTR, if you fancy a tight, virgin bike whose seat is still unsullied by other men's sweaty crotch. |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jul 5 2020, 09:59 PM) That's a sweet bike. Well if we're going to consider that area, then there's also the Zontes 300cc singles. I particularly like the ADV version. haha i love how you phrase things already. Yep, i am looking at Zontes z310T as well, the new version with single arm.Unfortunately, these are all closer to RM20k. And if we're willing to consider the 250cc class, then the TRK251, CSC RX3 and Leoncino 250 are all definitely within our budget. Japanese 250cc bikes... forget it... unless second hand, then maybe. Bottom line... Dominar D400 remains the only option to get that many CCs in a triple spark KTM-based engine at RM13k OTR, if you fancy a tight, virgin bike whose seat is still unsullied by other men's sweaty crotch. |
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ocb05Zontes Z310T looks ok, but lacks power with all that load and your body weight. Cannot reach 140kmh. There's Honda NC700 as well, around 20k. Engine concept derived from Jazz engine. Nice flat torque curve and very fuel efficient for touring. If add more money, you get DCT version, similar to the Honda NM4, that behaves like automatic gear. Redlines at 6.5k RPM, top speed 188kmh and cruises 120kmh at 4k RPM. Kinda like the operating range of your Golf TSi I might add. And special mention for touring, definitely need a screen. Other models I know of that you can consider, leaning towards touring - TRK502, CFMoto 650. Reference: https://autowise.com/top-chinese-motorcycles/ ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by alexei: Jul 6 2020, 09:53 AM ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 6 2020, 12:40 AM) haha i love how you phrase things already. Yep, i am looking at Zontes z310T as well, the new version with single arm. if i were u. i would stay away from it. because for me, i dont like bike with rare sight here on malaysia because finding spare parts sure quite hard unless its sharing some component with more known model and got lots here in malaysia. like dominar, we hv ktm 390 parts that easily find here. and with that price, i prefer to buy other 2nd hand bike with better engine and performance. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jul 6 2020, 10:22 AM) if i were u. i would stay away from it. And to add:because for me, i dont like bike with rare sight here on malaysia because finding spare parts sure quite hard unless its sharing some component with more known model and got lots here in malaysia. like dominar, we hv ktm 390 parts that easily find here. and with that price, i prefer to buy other 2nd hand bike with better engine and performance. Lubricant for the ZT310 is carried inside the frame, which functions both as an oil reservoir and cooler. Fuel is contained in a 15-litre tank, common across all Zontes models and the swingarm is made from aluminium alloy. This.. will cook your thigh during slow moving traffic/Jam.. This post has been edited by ajaibman: Jul 6 2020, 10:27 AM ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jul 6 2020, 10:27 AM) And to add: Hmm, i have been lurking around this model, so far no one has complain of the thigh cooking issues...Lubricant for the ZT310 is carried inside the frame, which functions both as an oil reservoir and cooler. Fuel is contained in a 15-litre tank, common across all Zontes models and the swingarm is made from aluminium alloy. This.. will cook your thigh during slow moving traffic/Jam.. |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 6 2020, 09:53 AM) ocb05Zontes Z310T looks ok, but lacks power with all that load and your body weight. Cannot reach 140kmh. Thanks for the tip, but i wanna pick a manual precisely because of Golf TSI gave me trouble in DCT gearbox on the seventh year There's Honda NC700 as well, around 20k. Engine concept derived from Jazz engine. Nice flat torque curve and very fuel efficient for touring. If add more money, you get DCT version, similar to the Honda NM4, that behaves like automatic gear. Redlines at 6.5k RPM, top speed 188kmh and cruises 120kmh at 4k RPM. Kinda like the operating range of your Golf TSi I might add. And special mention for touring, definitely need a screen. Other models I know of that you can consider, leaning towards touring - TRK502, CFMoto 650. Reference: https://autowise.com/top-chinese-motorcycles/ ![]() ![]() NC700 looks good, but to get 20k on used, i supposed it is of min 5 years old used? i think i get a Zontes 310T 2020 model. Comes with everything and i actually asked multiple zontes owners these few days and they replied, 130-150 sustained actually no issues if you are not obese, in fact CFmoto got quite a few owners reporting leakage issues. Gonna take a gamble then. Edit: Or CFMOTO 650MT. My budget are sub 30k so either a really good condition used bike or a new budget tourer. This post has been edited by ocb05: Jul 6 2020, 10:34 PM |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 6 2020, 08:38 PM) Thanks for the tip, but i wanna pick a manual precisely because of Golf TSI gave me trouble in DCT gearbox on the seventh year Alright, all the best.NC700 looks good, but to get 20k on used, i supposed it is of min 5 years old used? i think i get a Zontes 310T 2020 model. Comes with everything and i actually asked multiple zontes owners these few days and they replied, 130-150 sustained actually no issues if you are not obese, in fact CFmoto got quite a few owners reporting leakage issues. Gonna take a gamble then. Edit: Or CFMOTO 650MT. My budget are sub 30k so either a really good condition used bike or a new budget tourer. ocb05 liked this post
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 7 2020, 07:52 AM) Again, thank you very much for your valuable opinion. So as i learn bike riding, i guess i will get to decide either i get a big cc but heavier, or smaller cc but more economic bike. Pretty sure it will be a duel between zontes 310t 2020 vs cfmoto 650mt as they are very close in terms of total OTR price. |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 7 2020, 12:46 PM) Again, thank you very much for your valuable opinion. So as i learn bike riding, i guess i will get to decide either i get a big cc but heavier, or smaller cc but more economic bike. Pretty sure it will be a duel between zontes 310t 2020 vs cfmoto 650mt as they are very close in terms of total OTR price. you're welcome. Bear in mind, believe 50% of what you hear from forums. Fact check yourself, and more importantly test sit and test ride before you hand over your cash. |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 7 2020, 01:46 PM) Pretty sure it will be a duel between zontes 310t 2020 vs cfmoto 650mt as they are very close in terms of total OTR price. In that case, CFmoto 650MT wins.You'll definitely want the extra horses. The Zontes comes with many unnecessary bits that don't look like they'll survive the first 30,000km - electric windscreen, remote fuel cap cover... keyless ignition... Test em out, report here! Good luck! |
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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 6 2020, 08:38 PM) Thanks for the tip, but i wanna pick a manual precisely because of Golf TSI gave me trouble in DCT gearbox on the seventh year with that kind of budget. you dont want consider used/new cb500x ? since its built for touring.NC700 looks good, but to get 20k on used, i supposed it is of min 5 years old used? i think i get a Zontes 310T 2020 model. Comes with everything and i actually asked multiple zontes owners these few days and they replied, 130-150 sustained actually no issues if you are not obese, in fact CFmoto got quite a few owners reporting leakage issues. Gonna take a gamble then. Edit: Or CFMOTO 650MT. My budget are sub 30k so either a really good condition used bike or a new budget tourer. |
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Z400 a good bike?
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 9 2020, 09:13 AM) now ppl scared lepas beli terus jadi Modenas Z400, lost value. It was actually selling quite well prior to the modenas JV announcement. Sold more than the equivalent Ninja since I had to wait a week or two if I wanted the Z400, while the Ninja was ready stock.other than that, the kawa 400 seems very good middle weight. From what I have heard, it is a superior bike to the Ninja 400 overall. Better ergos and engine tuning. Probably superior cooling as well due to lack of fairings. |
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:27 AM) It was actually selling quite well prior to the modenas JV announcement. Sold more than the equivalent Ninja since I had to wait a week or two if I wanted the Z400, while the Ninja was ready stock. Oh, more details please about the engine tuning?From what I have heard, it is a superior bike to the Ninja 400 overall. Better ergos and engine tuning. Probably superior cooling as well due to lack of fairings. Cooling with fairings IMO is better, as it channels air towards the radiator, and the side fairings draws hot air out as the bike moves. |
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Jul 9 2020, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jul 9 2020, 10:27 AM) It was actually selling quite well prior to the modenas JV announcement. Sold more than the equivalent Ninja since I had to wait a week or two if I wanted the Z400, while the Ninja was ready stock. Yeah before the JV my aim was to get this bike first. Then i kinda hold.From what I have heard, it is a superior bike to the Ninja 400 overall. Better ergos and engine tuning. Probably superior cooling as well due to lack of fairings. So the budget not got increased. So i was looking at z900 or cb650r But im worried about spare parts. Some my friends who own bajaj complain they cant get any spare part from medenas. Im worried for kawasaki bike. KMM was doing a good job before |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 9 2020, 10:35 AM) Oh, more details please about the engine tuning? Check Youtube for z400 dyno and I believe it's the TST industries dyno run that sums it up. I think the bike generally just doesn't need to be revved as high as the ninja and that makes it easier and more fun to ride.Cooling with fairings IMO is better, as it channels air towards the radiator, and the side fairings draws hot air out as the bike moves. As for cooling, in my experience the nakeds are better. Maybe because in city traffic I don't move at a constant pace that the channel in and draw out ability provided by the fairings is minimized. My ninja is fine when on the highway but in slower traffic the fairings stop the heat from radiating out, which is good for me but not so fun for the engine. QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:12 AM) Yeah before the JV my aim was to get this bike first. Then i kinda hold. I saw your other posts about being worried and panicked about KMM and Modenas JV. In that case just don't have to look at Kawi anymore. Get either Yamaha or Honda for peace of mind. You may have to pay more but at least it will alleviate your concerns and you will have a reliable machine with no spare parts issues.So the budget not got increased. So i was looking at z900 or cb650r But im worried about spare parts. Some my friends who own bajaj complain they cant get any spare part from medenas. Im worried for kawasaki bike. KMM was doing a good job before Unfortunately for those who like bang for buck purchases, right now there is no one who can be certain about KMMs future. |
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jul 9 2020, 11:49 AM) Check Youtube for z400 dyno and I believe it's the TST industries dyno run that sums it up. I think the bike generally just doesn't need to be revved as high as the ninja and that makes it easier and more fun to ride. The TST industries showed higher torque and hp on its dyno compared to motorcycle_com and cycleworld. But, the curves looked similar than what other dyno's got. No comment on this one, but I would say the engines and gearing are the same. I cannot verify those claims, but I would not conclude Z and Ninja are different engine tunes.As for cooling, in my experience the nakeds are better. Maybe because in city traffic I don't move at a constant pace that the channel in and draw out ability provided by the fairings is minimized. My ninja is fine when on the highway but in slower traffic the fairings stop the heat from radiating out, which is good for me but not so fun for the engine. Searching the dyno charts, particularly the torque one, the clear distinction Z400 against RC390 is 4~5.5k RPM. Associating this to D400, I think the D400 can be made faster by changing the sprockets based on rider's preference. For highway cruising speed at 110kmh, D400 will be operating past its peak torque RPM, hence very inefficient. For Z400, it is right before peak torque RPM, which is great if you need to overtake something and do so without dropping to 5th. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 9 2020, 01:34 PM) Hmm, I always had the impression that Kawi's naked and faired bikes had slightly different tunes - one for better torque and the other for higher top end respectively. Is there a way to check this with the Z650 and Ninja 650 as well?Then again, if the manufacturer spec sheet says it's the same, then perhaps you're right. |
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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jul 9 2020, 05:30 PM) Hmm, I always had the impression that Kawi's naked and faired bikes had slightly different tunes - one for better torque and the other for higher top end respectively. Is there a way to check this with the Z650 and Ninja 650 as well? Z650 and N650 has same cylinder, crankshaft, camshaft, FI and ECU components. Gears too IINM.Then again, if the manufacturer spec sheet says it's the same, then perhaps you're right. |
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Jul 27 2020, 11:25 AM
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Hi guys,
I need help on my dominar 400 first edition. During my commute to work, my bike suddenly shut down by itself. The dash all dead. Fuel is still half a tank. Any advice? Thanks |
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SIfus.
Any chances Modenas will introduce updated Dominar in near month(this year)? Only saw Careta spyshots drive in North. Others than that, nothing. But, with a current discount price, is it...is it will be introduce? Less than RM15k for a near 400cc is a good deal thought. Reguards |
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Aug 25 2020, 12:00 PM) SIfus. Modenas probably busy with kawasaki right now. This year is modenas 25th year.Any chances Modenas will introduce updated Dominar in near month(this year)? Only saw Careta spyshots drive in North. Others than that, nothing. But, with a current discount price, is it...is it will be introduce? Less than RM15k for a near 400cc is a good deal thought. Reguards If anything special would come out. Probably around this year. Hopefully |
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Aug 25 2020, 12:00 PM) SIfus. It's quite possible that updated Dominate could be intro this yr looking at the discount price of the current version being offered. Clear stock some may say. But it's only my opinion la. Any chances Modenas will introduce updated Dominar in near month(this year)? Only saw Careta spyshots drive in North. Others than that, nothing. But, with a current discount price, is it...is it will be introduce? Less than RM15k for a near 400cc is a good deal thought. Reguards Thailand already selling the updated version n hopefully we get it as well. |
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Aug 26 2020, 02:00 PM) It's quite possible that updated Dominate could be intro this yr looking at the discount price of the current version being offered. Clear stock some may say. But it's only my opinion la. based on the news. the thailand's stock is actually build by modenas here at gurun. Thailand already selling the updated version n hopefully we get it as well. so i guess its matter of time they updated to 2019's version. because with discount price,and some shop clear stock, it could be modenas preparing to launch once they done supply to the thailand. they cant launch to both country at the same time due to limited units built at their factory. |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Aug 30 2020, 11:31 PM) Better yet, Eang Chun in Setapak is quoting RM11800 plus a complete set of Givi panniers + top box. Bloody hell that's freakin' cheap.... QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Aug 31 2020, 12:55 AM) Yeah pretty much. Noticed that the key Suzuki dealerships (Sin Seng Huat, GC Ann, Eang Chun) are slashing price of the V-strom on Mudah, so I decided to make a trip out to K Selangor to check what's up. Yeah, disappointing that D400 is detuned like that, getting 35hp in real life.D400 is more than OK when riding solo, but when touring two-up with luggage its lack of displacement and cylinders quickly become apparent. There's nothing below 6000rpm and above 8000rpm it runs out of puff while its fuel economy goes to shit shockingly fast. Exploiting the few overtaking opportunities on the tight twisties towards Tapah for example got me bouncing off the rev limiter in 3rd gear a few times. However, it truly shines when commuting and negotiating city traffic plus the lack of heft makes it super easy to muscle in and out of tight parking spots. Could it be fitted with Duke 390 head+camshaft to match? Something about SOHC to DOHC conversion... |
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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 31 2020, 09:29 PM) Yeah, disappointing that D400 is detuned like that, getting 35hp in real life. Even if that is at all possible, it's just a RM13k bike at the end of the day... not worth the risk & the expense.Could it be fitted with Duke 390 head+camshaft to match? Something about SOHC to DOHC conversion... Better off buying a second bike for proper 2-up touring & keeping the D400 for the daily 70km commute. |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Aug 31 2020, 10:18 PM) Even if that is at all possible, it's just a RM13k bike at the end of the day... not worth the risk & the expense. binili trk 800 kambing to msia in 2-3y time... Better off buying a second bike for proper 2-up touring & keeping the D400 for the daily 70km commute. |
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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 1 2020, 01:07 PM) binili trk 800 kambing to msia in 2-3y time... I wanted to wait... but not 2-3 years... |
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Aug 30 2020, 11:31 PM) Better yet, Eang Chun in Setapak is quoting RM11800 plus a complete set of Givi panniers + top box. Question : is it worth taking ? I'm about to get my B full license. Saw ths deal quite tempting. Never rode a motorbike before fyi.Bloody hell that's freakin' cheap.... |
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QUOTE(007SMH @ Sep 2 2020, 06:20 PM) Question : is it worth taking ? I'm about to get my B full license. Saw ths deal quite tempting. Never rode a motorbike before fyi. for me its worth it. cheapest bike with more than 250cc u can find. even 2nd unit, is around 9-10k.for learning big bike, this should be ur option. once u get ur B full and can it handle nicely, its time for upgrade. |
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Sep 3 2020, 08:46 AM) for me its worth it. cheapest bike with more than 250cc u can find. even 2nd unit, is around 9-10k. Just booked the D400 blue color with Top box & side box OTR for Rm12800for learning big bike, this should be ur option. once u get ur B full and can it handle nicely, its time for upgrade. |
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Hi all, May I know where can I buy special lock nuts for the brake calipers? I see lots of cases bybre brakes are stolen when park in the public.
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So far any common issue about this bike after 2 years of usage? I’m thinking getting one as alternative of my Versys. Daily commute on that seems little tired.
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u might wana go for a test ride.
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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Oct 9 2020, 01:33 PM) So far any common issue about this bike after 2 years of usage? I’m thinking getting one as alternative of my Versys. Daily commute on that seems little tired. Common issue :1. Nuts and screw might loosen or broke especially crash guard. Must check periodically. Got loose, tighten it back 2. Front fork oil leaks That's all |
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Hi guys, planning to pick up a D400 after this MCO.
Yu Huat quoted me 12800 OTR cash buy, with paniers and top box, MHR full face, a Dainese jacket and a few other bits. It's a bit higher than the 11800 I've seen from Eang Chun so I might go over to see them next week. I think for the price it can't be beat. Had a short go around in it. Very comfortable and wide seat, a bit weighty and bulky for a 400. The vibrations though..........I think I would go numb 1 hour in. Just needs some lights, touring windshield and a rear sprocket to complete. Will probably be after CNY if this MCO is anything to go by. Just wondering if they are throwing out stocks waiting for the new model. Would appreciate any pointers from current owners. |
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jan 17 2021, 02:45 PM) Hi guys, planning to pick up a D400 after this MCO. I think last week Eang Chun already posted last 3 promo units left for the 11,800 + 3boxes... Better call to ask and lock your order before stock ran out if it's true...Yu Huat quoted me 12800 OTR cash buy, with paniers and top box, MHR full face, a Dainese jacket and a few other bits. It's a bit higher than the 11800 I've seen from Eang Chun so I might go over to see them next week. I think for the price it can't be beat. Had a short go around in it. Very comfortable and wide seat, a bit weighty and bulky for a 400. The vibrations though..........I think I would go numb 1 hour in. Just needs some lights, touring windshield and a rear sprocket to complete. Will probably be after CNY if this MCO is anything to go by. Just wondering if they are throwing out stocks waiting for the new model. Would appreciate any pointers from current owners. 007SMH liked this post
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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:35 PM) Yes, stay with your versys. QUOTE(ThE DaReDeViL @ Jan 17 2021, 03:01 PM) I think last week Eang Chun already posted last 3 promo units left for the 11,800 + 3boxes... Better call to ask and lock your order before stock ran out if it's true... I just bought a used one. Found a lightly used unit with 3k km. 9000 OTR, including delivery. Rear Givi rack. Still under factory warranty.I just didn't feel like spending 12500 (best OTR price from Eang Chun) with a couple of freebies and 3 boxes. Best price they could offer was 12100 with only the 3 boxes and no accessories. No point buying a new one when the refresh is just around the corner. Heard from dealers that Modenas is still sitting on quite a lot of stock so they are delaying bringing in the new one. Only problem on mine was a sticking rear caliper, which I just freed and greased up myself and is working fine now. Probably due to sitting for a year. Haven't taken it out for highway rides, just around my Taman. Handling is rather slow and surprisingly heavy for a 400. Clutch is light. Seat is wide and comfortable.....I think if the rider takes it and rides it as a sports cruiser, he/she will be happy with it. But for the price, nothing comes close as a B full starter bike. Power is good for a beginner bike or a city commuter with a rather flat torque curve 4500 to 8500rpm. Runs out of puff soon after. Plan is to use it for 1-2 years then getting something else, so this is kindda a disposable bike. A point to note for potential new owners, your neighborhood kapchai shop foreman will shy away from working on your bike, citing parts (or lack there off). If you are half decent mechanically, you should be able to maintain it or do minor repairs yourself. Common maintenance parts are available on shoppee. Heard that Modenas official service centres are equally hopeless. The refresh would be good though. DOHC, higher revving, slightly more power, and closer to the Duke 390. New twin chamber muffler, USD shocks, new tank display with gear indicator.....all for half the price of a Duke 390. |
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Mar 9 2021, 10:17 PM) Yes, stay with your versys. Congratulations to the new ride bro, yeah I still sticking with my Versys. Now drive more than ride as weather crazy uncertain. I just bought a used one. Found a lightly used unit with 3k km. 9000 OTR, including delivery. Rear Givi rack. Still under factory warranty. I just didn't feel like spending 12500 (best OTR price from Eang Chun) with a couple of freebies and 3 boxes. Best price they could offer was 12100 with only the 3 boxes and no accessories. No point buying a new one when the refresh is just around the corner. Heard from dealers that Modenas is still sitting on quite a lot of stock so they are delaying bringing in the new one. Only problem on mine was a sticking rear caliper, which I just freed and greased up myself and is working fine now. Probably due to sitting for a year. Haven't taken it out for highway rides, just around my Taman. Handling is rather slow and surprisingly heavy for a 400. Clutch is light. Seat is wide and comfortable.....I think if the rider takes it and rides it as a sports cruiser, he/she will be happy with it. But for the price, nothing comes close as a B full starter bike. Power is good for a beginner bike or a city commuter with a rather flat torque curve 4500 to 8500rpm. Runs out of puff soon after. Plan is to use it for 1-2 years then getting something else, so this is kindda a disposable bike. A point to note for potential new owners, your neighborhood kapchai shop foreman will shy away from working on your bike, citing parts (or lack there off). If you are half decent mechanically, you should be able to maintain it or do minor repairs yourself. Common maintenance parts are available on shoppee. Heard that Modenas official service centres are equally hopeless. The refresh would be good though. DOHC, higher revving, slightly more power, and closer to the Duke 390. New twin chamber muffler, USD shocks, new tank display with gear indicator.....all for half the price of a Duke 390. |
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Mar 9 2021, 10:17 PM) Yes, stay with your versys. All of that heaviness and handling i already get used of it. Because of this, ride in highway is a breeze. Cruise at 120kmh non stop KL Ipoh, doesn't feel tired at allI just bought a used one. Found a lightly used unit with 3k km. 9000 OTR, including delivery. Rear Givi rack. Still under factory warranty. I just didn't feel like spending 12500 (best OTR price from Eang Chun) with a couple of freebies and 3 boxes. Best price they could offer was 12100 with only the 3 boxes and no accessories. No point buying a new one when the refresh is just around the corner. Heard from dealers that Modenas is still sitting on quite a lot of stock so they are delaying bringing in the new one. Only problem on mine was a sticking rear caliper, which I just freed and greased up myself and is working fine now. Probably due to sitting for a year. Haven't taken it out for highway rides, just around my Taman. Handling is rather slow and surprisingly heavy for a 400. Clutch is light. Seat is wide and comfortable.....I think if the rider takes it and rides it as a sports cruiser, he/she will be happy with it. But for the price, nothing comes close as a B full starter bike. Power is good for a beginner bike or a city commuter with a rather flat torque curve 4500 to 8500rpm. Runs out of puff soon after. Plan is to use it for 1-2 years then getting something else, so this is kindda a disposable bike. A point to note for potential new owners, your neighborhood kapchai shop foreman will shy away from working on your bike, citing parts (or lack there off). If you are half decent mechanically, you should be able to maintain it or do minor repairs yourself. Common maintenance parts are available on shoppee. Heard that Modenas official service centres are equally hopeless. The refresh would be good though. DOHC, higher revving, slightly more power, and closer to the Duke 390. New twin chamber muffler, USD shocks, new tank display with gear indicator.....all for half the price of a Duke 390. Depends on owner what plan ahead for the bike. Me? Depends too. When i feel weaken due to my age then sell it. In mean time, my Dom is a daily workhorse to go work. About the new Dom DS6 (model code stuff like that), earlier people craving Modenas will bring in. Then time goes by, nobody talked about it. They busy talked that 150 moped & modenas ninja. Boring for waiting, arghh just buy the current one. Even myself had this kind situation too |
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After riding for around 1000km (Still not yet finish break in) , my average fuel consumption was around 270-290km per refuel... is it normal ? Average 40km per day trip
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QUOTE(007SMH @ Apr 19 2021, 08:08 PM) After riding for around 1000km (Still not yet finish break in) , my average fuel consumption was around 270-290km per refuel... is it normal ? Average 40km per day trip Depends on how you ride.Kalau ride secara halal lagi toyyiba ikut rukun & speed limit etc >300km boleh dapat. Kalau hang dok tibai 150km/h asyik >8500rpm lampu berkelip memanjang, dapat 200km ja pun boleh jadi. Ni motor yg dah pecah dara la, sebab lubang dah relah. Motor hang 270km tu ok la sbb lubang dok kuat kemut merenyam piston hang... kekeke... RalphRatedR, apisfires, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ May 22 2021, 10:59 AM) Depends on how you ride. hard break-in is the way to goKalau ride secara halal lagi toyyiba ikut rukun & speed limit etc >300km boleh dapat. Kalau hang dok tibai 150km/h asyik >8500rpm lampu berkelip memanjang, dapat 200km ja pun boleh jadi. Ni motor yg dah pecah dara la, sebab lubang dah relah. Motor hang 270km tu ok la sbb lubang dok kuat kemut merenyam piston hang... kekeke... engine assembly line already do hard break in test, might as well follow through hoahmaru56 liked this post
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Sep 8 2021, 05:23 PM
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Sep 8 2021, 06:43 PM
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they say is new dominar wor,
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Sep 8 2021, 07:09 PM
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Sep 8 2021, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Sep 8 2021, 07:09 PM) Makes sense if we associate the colour with the brand. But the Dominar is also sold as a Kawasaki in the Philippines This post has been edited by lowpro: Sep 8 2021, 09:07 PM |
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Sep 12 2021, 07:25 PM
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Buying a proper adventure tourer next year.
Modenas Vibrator I'm relegating to teaching my wife to ride, them I'm getting rid of it. If anybody is buying the new model, please tell us if it still comes with rustwater in the radiator, leaking forks & shite brakes that fail. |
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165cm and 55kg can ride this bike comfortably? currently using a kapchai and thinking of upgrading to this bike.
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QUOTE(cilimerah @ Sep 14 2021, 11:26 AM) 165cm and 55kg can ride this bike comfortably? currently using a kapchai and thinking of upgrading to this bike. TBH a bit short and too heavy for your size , I suggest you go to the shop and try sit on it and feel it first ... I'm at 173cm & 75kg my leg also tipping and can't full balance with two foot planted on the ground. |
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QUOTE(007SMH @ Sep 14 2021, 03:26 PM) TBH a bit short and too heavy for your size , I suggest you go to the shop and try sit on it and feel it first ... I'm at 173cm & 75kg my leg also tipping and can't full balance with two foot planted on the ground. Thank you for your feedback. Is it too heavy to rest on one leg only at traffic light? |
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QUOTE(cilimerah @ Sep 14 2021, 04:45 PM) resting on traffic light is should be ur least concern, tipping toe with 1 feet should fine.the real problem with heavy bike is when you want to reverse and handling it on low speed, which require to put ur feet down for stability. 007SMH liked this post
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Sep 15 2021, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Sep 15 2021, 08:53 AM) resting on traffic light is should be ur least concern, tipping toe with 1 feet should fine. From what i gather from talking people around my height, i will be tipping on my toes but wont have a problem handling this bike. I will try it myself just to be sure. Thanks.the real problem with heavy bike is when you want to reverse and handling it on low speed, which require to put ur feet down for stability. |
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Sep 15 2021, 01:07 PM
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I tried another bike, 830mm can flat feet both sides.
This bike seat height 800mm. What makes this bike harder to flat feet? |
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Sep 16 2021, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 15 2021, 05:54 PM) I tried another bike, 830mm can flat feet both sides. The width of the seating will also have an effectThis bike seat height 800mm. What makes this bike harder to flat feet? With the same seat height. Wide seating, you will tip toe more than a bike with narrow seating. Narrow you do not have to kangkang that much. |
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Sep 16 2021, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 16 2021, 07:08 AM) The width of the seating will also have an effect What's the seat width near the tank?With the same seat height. Wide seating, you will tip toe more than a bike with narrow seating. Narrow you do not have to kangkang that much. I can post the measurement of my 830mm later... |
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Sep 16 2021, 10:43 AM
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Oct 6 2021, 01:59 AM
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Hi guys, bumping this thread cause somewhat related I suppose.
Coming from a Dinamik, should I buy RS200 or this? I'm about 160cm and currently weigh 85kg (I gained weight 15kg during second MCO lolol) |
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QUOTE(overl33t @ Oct 6 2021, 01:59 AM) Hi guys, bumping this thread cause somewhat related I suppose. if you have extra 4-5k. definitely D400.Coming from a Dinamik, should I buy RS200 or this? I'm about 160cm and currently weigh 85kg (I gained weight 15kg during second MCO lolol) plus extra money for maintenance, roadtax, insurance. |
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QUOTE(007SMH @ Oct 6 2021, 07:58 AM) I think maybe 163 or 162? I forgot lol never really paid attention to all those measurements but yeah, work from home and my bicycle broke down in the middle of MCO woohoo@megahertz Bike loan so expensive in Meshia llolol Planning to just whack cash This post has been edited by overl33t: Oct 6 2021, 11:30 AM |
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QUOTE(overl33t @ Oct 6 2021, 11:29 AM) I think maybe 163 or 162? I forgot lol never really paid attention to all those measurements but yeah, work from home and my bicycle broke down in the middle of MCO woohoo Yes , get the bike with cash , loan is too blood sucking ~@megahertz Bike loan so expensive in Meshia llolol Planning to just whack cash |
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QUOTE(overl33t @ Oct 6 2021, 11:29 AM) I think maybe 163 or 162? I forgot lol never really paid attention to all those measurements but yeah, work from home and my bicycle broke down in the middle of MCO woohoo Loan for bikes is bad everywhere. Even overseas. But bike loan for above 30k bike usually its not that bad. For smaller bikes use something else like CC or personal loan if you have too else cash is the way to go@megahertz Bike loan so expensive in Meshia llolol Planning to just whack cash |
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Went to Triumph for a test ride & the guy quoted 4.1% interest currently for a motorcycle hire purchase loan (>rm40k).
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Oct 14 2021, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ Oct 7 2021, 06:50 PM) Loan for bikes is bad everywhere. Even overseas. But bike loan for above 30k bike usually its not that bad. For smaller bikes use something else like CC or personal loan if you have too else cash is the way to go My CTOS CCRIS so clean, banks don't want to deal with me.>Hey so you wanna apply for a personal loan? You ain't got commitments or record with us other than having a savings account with us so we're just gonna reject you outright without even performing credit check. Maybe try applying for a credit card with us? >Applies for credit card >You've got no history at all in your credit, no student loans, no nothing. Understand you're an SPM grad but we're gonna reject your application. >But I've maintained at least 10k with you guys for the past 2 years. Can we go for a secured credit card instead? >No can do This post has been edited by overl33t: Oct 14 2021, 03:41 PM |
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QUOTE(overl33t @ Oct 14 2021, 03:39 PM) My CTOS CCRIS so clean, banks don't want to deal with me. Can't get CC? You work for yourself is it? I had zero record to after returning from studying overseas but I got my CC with my payslip. Still loan rate for my 1st car is shitty. Got to work for that credit score.>Hey so you wanna apply for a personal loan? You ain't got commitments or record with us other than having a savings account with us so we're just gonna reject you outright without even performing credit check. Maybe try applying for a credit card with us? >Applies for credit card >You've got no history at all in your credit, no student loans, no nothing. Understand you're an SPM grad but we're gonna reject your application. >But I've maintained at least 10k with you guys for the past 2 years. Can we go for a secured credit card instead? >No can do I guess if no choice better get aeon loan for a cheap bike. Built up your record for future purchase |
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QUOTE(Flyinghighaero @ Oct 14 2021, 06:08 PM) Can't get CC? You work for yourself is it? I had zero record to after returning from studying overseas but I got my CC with my payslip. Still loan rate for my 1st car is shitty. Got to work for that credit score. I got payslip la.I guess if no choice better get aeon loan for a cheap bike. Built up your record for future purchase Dunno why the banks all dumdum liddat, maybe cos i dont have student loan. So I ended up taking up AEON credit just for the sake of building record in CCRIS |
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for CC, its depend on ur payslip, ur commitment and the bank itself.
most bank require ur salary around 3k min. each bank hv diff policy for their cc application, so if reject, then find other banks. like mine, i apply few times with citibank but always rejected, others bank is fine and can give me high cc limit. i hv build good CTOS and CCRIS records over the years, just that i have 70% debt ratio. so could be that citibank reject me due to this. and i also every year got apply cc, then terminated it once i got my gift. lol |
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Havent tried D400 but D250 felt pretty heavy and under powered.
Is D400 better in terms of power delivery? |
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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Mar 15 2024, 12:28 AM) Havent tried D400 but D250 felt pretty heavy and under powered. Definitely ~ the best thing about D400 is when you overtake ppl you just downshift one gear and off you go. but don't talk about topspeed la cuz its still a single boi afterall.Is D400 better in terms of power delivery? |
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