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post Sep 13 2018, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ May 2 2018, 11:02 AM)
Ah, ok. Read it somewhere that smaller sprocket helps - which one? Front or Back?. Hahahaha, I'm pretty noob when it comes to mods.

I'm ok with the acceleration. Just that the top speed is a bit meh for a 400  biggrin.gif

Haizzz, just read somewhere that it is not very corner happy too. Might need mods...might as well forget it lah...too much work
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Divide the number of teeth on your rear sprocket with the number of teeth on your front to get your ratio.

The lower the ratio, the better your top speed but it reduces your acceleration. The higher the ratio, vice versa.

So the trick is, to get better top speed you must increase the size of your rear sprocket by 1-2 teeth.

Or if you want a more dramatic difference, the math says decrease the front sprocket size by 1 tooth. You'll be able to cruise at higher speeds at lower RPM at the expense of acceleration.

Beware that in the end, the final result is always influenced by how much power the engine makes in the first place. So if ur engine is small, don't expect miracles.

Try out small changes in ratio first until u get a feel for where you are in relation to the performance you want.

My TNT600 would rev past the redline, indicating it was under-geared from the factory. When my chain wore out, I increased the gearing by lowering the sprocket ratio. Now it does 150km/h at just 7000rpm, which is better for my highway commute.

Good luck.

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post Feb 22 2020, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(matrix123 @ Apr 26 2018, 06:16 PM)
A 185kg bike... difficult to push if had a flat tyre.
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Depends on what you're comparing it to. Compared to a kapcai, it's heavier and more difficult to push. Compared to a full-on superbike, this bike weighs nothing!

I paid RM13200 for a red one, all in - that's OTR inclusive of GST, JPJ paperwork, reg no, insurance and roadtax. That's just about the most amount of displacement you can get for the least amount of money.

It's decent enough that I won't have to worry about running costs, big enough not to get me killed by car drivers, small enough to be light and nimble in town, comfy enough to munch the daily miles with ease, and cool enough to feature a heap of bells and whistles despite the low asking price.

The biggest downside is that owning this bike won't earn me any bragging rights.

But it gets me to work, keeps me out of debt and keeps the missus happy.

I was surprised by the ride quality. The suspension is firm enough to let it handle well on the road, but it isn't bone-jarring.
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post Feb 22 2020, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 22 2020, 09:06 PM)
used? or new?
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New. My first ever new bike! biggrin.gif

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post Feb 29 2020, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 12 2019, 04:41 PM)
according to indian review @ motorbeam

"The bike’s biggest negatives are its ride and handling. The front forks’ rake angle is too high which has increased the turning radius massively. So, turns are very difficult on the bike in heavy traffic. "
I think I disagree with the rake angle bollocks. Indian journalists talk cock lah, super bombastic all the time. Of course it won't cilok like a kapcai, because it ISN'T a kapcai... shocker eh?

IMHO, it's down to the bike's long wheelbase. 1450mm or so. Heck... a Z900's wheelbase is about the same but you don't hear these hacks complaining about the Kawasaki not being able to turn on a dime.


It rides fine, with the suspension being on just the right side of firm.

At the end of the day, it's just a comfy streetbike that you can ride or commute some distance on comfortably. And it doesn't even pretend to be anything else.

My biggest beef though is the vibration... but being a single, maybe it's to be expected. I suspect mine will rattle ltself loose by year end....
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post Mar 2 2020, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Mar 2 2020, 02:22 PM)
Eh? Pakai dominar pulak? What happenes to old one?

Anyway congrats. Come join group.
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Motor lama sudah hangus rentung dalan kebakaran workshop di Pdg Jawa. Motor xde hutang, insurans 3rd party.... maka meloponglah....

Korek-korek bawa sofa, selak belakang almari, jenguk bawah katil etc jumpalah duit sikit.... nyaris bikin d/p beli Z900.... tapi fikir punya fikir... dah la tanggung kerugian motor hangus, aku rasa elok jgn tambah hutang lagi buat masa terdekat ni... so beli Dominar je la. Bebas hutang, bebas bebanan.

Bab tarik-sorong nak masuk parking tu aku dah biasa masa pakai motor lama... hehehe... time parking kena forward planning sikit, takleh cam kapcai main redah je parking mana-mana...

Korak perasan x brek dia macam haram? Jakun punya pasal sbb x pernah pakai ABS, aku lenjan la test... it works, mmg confirm xleh stoppie... hehehh... tapi kan, lepas 5-6 kali dok main brek secara ganas test limit ABS, brek tu mula fade!! Gilerrr.... boleh rasa brek makin mengurang cengkaman! So sendiri mau ingatlah, bawa motor jgn sampai pressure giler kat brek tu.

Korek punya korek, aku rasa ada pilihan brakepad jenis sintered (HH) yg boleh masuk... GSXR dulu pakai Ferodo sintered, TNT600 pun tukar pakai Vesrah sintered... mmg beshhh main stoppie sensorang kat car park...


Lagi satu... agaknya ada kemungkinan Dominar 400 UG yang disangka bakal muncul tu sebenarnya Dominar 250? Rupa cam sama, cuma lubang silinder sempit separuh.

https://motomalaya.net/blog/2020/01/18/baja...an-dominar-250/
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post Mar 9 2020, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Mar 2 2020, 04:52 PM)
Nice one. Hahaha.

After this sikit2 tambah aksesori.
Me got mule box. After this target windshield.
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Kalo jumpa windshield touring yg tinggi2 tu, roger-roger sikit naaa... puas aku cari, x jumpaaaaa...

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post Mar 25 2020, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Mar 25 2020, 10:27 AM)
Boleh pergi kedai AMS Motorsport jalan gombak lama. You can cuci mata dulu also at his FB Aizat Mobile Service Bajaj/Modenas. Their poison really kaw2.

Me also plan to put windshield. Wait for AMS to stock in new windshield product Windbro as it specially made for dominar this coming April
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Dah pi dulu. Barang takde. Pakai winshield tebuk je la for now. Bergetar semacam, lepas MCO kena cari rubber washer supaya senyap sikit...
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post Apr 4 2020, 05:41 PM

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Dominar touring windscreen is back in stock. Available in 40cm, 45cm & 50cm sizes. Selling like hot cake!

https://shopee.com.my/product/80694147/6716589033?smtt=0.0.9
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post Apr 11 2020, 02:24 PM

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Hey I went downstairs to periodically start my D400 that has been sitting idle throughout MCO.

This time I decided to take it for a spin around the parking floor of my condo.... and discovered that the front brake has stopped working!

The brake lever felt dead - it would squeeze & bottom out. No braking at all.

My bike only has 1400km on the clock.

Anybody has the same prob?
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post May 12 2020, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(matkewl @ May 12 2020, 11:02 AM)
may be hydraulic not function for long time. you may need to pump often until the brake fluid start flowing smoothly.
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Ya... last week since we're allowed to leave home, first thing I did was hop on my bike. Spent an hour going around the parking lot, forcing the brake until the brake pressure started to come back.

I think it was the ABS.

Once it felt OK, I took it for a long ride up and down MRR2 and it felt normal again.

Lesson learned - ini motor, ABS bukan boleh percaya sangat.

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post Jun 29 2020, 06:28 PM

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Bini aku komplen, Sabtu hari tu ride balik hari gi Melaka bontot dia kebas 2 hari x hilang.

Bergetar semacam motor ni. Aku ingat nnt senang aku nak gi modify seat cushion kasi empuk mcm sofa...
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post Jul 4 2020, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 4 2020, 12:51 AM)

My only concern on this d400, is whether it will rattle or vibrate above 140kmh, or is it requiring a lot of effort to achieve that kind of speed range?  Should i spend more on bikes like Yamaha mt-07? safety wise i think d400 is already very good.
I call my D400...

"THE GREAT VIBRATOR".

Nothing else makes my wife's ass numb for 2 days straight like a day ride to Melaka on my D400.


Does that answer your question?

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post Jul 5 2020, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(redjol @ Jul 4 2020, 08:49 AM)
cf400nk also can be considered. 2 cylinder with 400cc.
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That's a sweet bike. Well if we're going to consider that area, then there's also the Zontes 300cc singles. I particularly like the ADV version.

Unfortunately, these are all closer to RM20k.

And if we're willing to consider the 250cc class, then the TRK251, CSC RX3 and Leoncino 250 are all definitely within our budget.

Japanese 250cc bikes... forget it... unless second hand, then maybe.


Bottom line... Dominar D400 remains the only option to get that many CCs in a triple spark KTM-based engine at RM13k OTR, if you fancy a tight, virgin bike whose seat is still unsullied by other men's sweaty crotch.
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post Jul 8 2020, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ocb05 @ Jul 7 2020, 01:46 PM)
Pretty sure it will be a duel between zontes 310t 2020 vs cfmoto  650mt as they are very close in terms of total OTR price.
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In that case, CFmoto 650MT wins.

You'll definitely want the extra horses.

The Zontes comes with many unnecessary bits that don't look like they'll survive the first 30,000km - electric windscreen, remote fuel cap cover... keyless ignition...

Test em out, report here! Good luck!

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post Aug 30 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Aug 25 2020, 01:00 PM)
Less than RM15k for a near 400cc is a good deal thought.

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Better yet, Eang Chun in Setapak is quoting RM11800 plus a complete set of Givi panniers + top box.

Bloody hell that's freakin' cheap....

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post Aug 31 2020, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 31 2020, 09:29 PM)
Yeah, disappointing that D400 is detuned like that, getting 35hp in real life.
Could it be fitted with Duke 390 head+camshaft to match? Something about SOHC to DOHC conversion...
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Even if that is at all possible, it's just a RM13k bike at the end of the day... not worth the risk & the expense.

Better off buying a second bike for proper 2-up touring & keeping the D400 for the daily 70km commute.

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post Sep 1 2020, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Sep 1 2020, 01:07 PM)
binili trk 800 kambing to msia in 2-3y time...
I wanted to wait... but not 2-3 years...
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post May 22 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Apr 19 2021, 08:08 PM)
After riding for around 1000km (Still not yet finish break in) , my average fuel consumption was around 270-290km per refuel... is it normal ? Average 40km per day trip
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Depends on how you ride.

Kalau ride secara halal lagi toyyiba ikut rukun & speed limit etc >300km boleh dapat.

Kalau hang dok tibai 150km/h asyik >8500rpm lampu berkelip memanjang, dapat 200km ja pun boleh jadi.

Ni motor yg dah pecah dara la, sebab lubang dah relah. Motor hang 270km tu ok la sbb lubang dok kuat kemut merenyam piston hang... kekeke...
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post Sep 12 2021, 07:25 PM

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Buying a proper adventure tourer next year.

Modenas Vibrator I'm relegating to teaching my wife to ride, them I'm getting rid of it.

If anybody is buying the new model, please tell us if it still comes with rustwater in the radiator, leaking forks & shite brakes that fail.

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post Oct 11 2021, 01:56 PM

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Went to Triumph for a test ride & the guy quoted 4.1% interest currently for a motorcycle hire purchase loan (>rm40k).

What's the rate for small bikes?

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