If you have watched Hardware Unboxed analysis on 8GB cards, the texture difference is significant compared to 12/16GB cards, not to mention you'll have to deal with game stuttering due to constant swapping between VRAM and system memory
Those are huge, and often unacceptable compromises in PC gaming IMHO
Arc may be a mess on older systems but at least they got the hardware side of things right - and Intel is indeed working on their drivers quite diligently
Of course if you are willing to up your budget you can already get a 9060 XT 16GB for around the same price as the 5060

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jun 19 2025, 06:29 AM

I dont see the issue here. 90960XT core is too weak to make use of that VRAM size, comparison shown your more likely to run out of GPU horsepower earlier than hitting VRAM limit unless you do stupid things like running ultra max settings in 4K.

Whether good or bad, it boils down to pricing level affordability, relative performance, & feature sets that you want (Nvidia still has far better encoding/decoding, and streaming support).

If your budget is a hard RM 1.5k then no need talk about a RM 1.6k card unless can drop it down to 1.5k.

No need to argue and justify to me, go argue with Steve (GN) and Steve (HUB). As I said, its what they reco in their reviews. Intel can do so much on driver & compatibility side but mandatory Rebar support is simply a dealbreaker for older systems that doesnt have it.

Hmmm, i was using RTX 4070 (8gb) on laptop before. There wasn't any stuttering when i was gaming on it, even blackmyth Wukong was running pretty good on it with frame gen around 70-90+fps with average settings.

Look at the your game settings, its doubtful you were running ultra maxed out playing at 4K. Its after I played thru HaloI and SM2 which I didnt find those limitation issues on my 8GB 3060TI that I drove deeper into GN & HUB/TS gameplay results and what triggers it, that I discovered its really about confirmation bias.

GN & HUB/TS setup their test specifically to fail 8GB cards using setups that no regular 5060(nonTI) or 9060(8GB) would/should expect to play without reasonable compromises. These are purely 1080P cards yet they fail at 1440P and 4K with maxed out settings and so were proclaimed to be failures. Doesnt make sense does it?

Is 8GB limit real? I believe so if game developers are lazy and merely relying on GPU brute force to play nicely, but look at how well Clair Obscur fairs even with 8GB cards when its done properly.

Thus the onus for this blame isnt onto Nvidia or AMD for making 8GB cards but should go to lazy developers coming out with half done games that often needs Day 1 patches. Some have gone back to retesting Cyber2077 and found it now playable on lower end cards than it did not before. Game optimisation plays a lot here. You can blame Nvidia/AMD for their cartel-like high prices of course but not the cards itself.

I do think a limit will be reached eventually but many more years than doomsayers predicts (that means today) if all games were made to the quality of CO, whereby RT should not take such big hits anymore. For now just ignore all the 8GB doomsayers and just play at whatever your comfortable with, laptops are typically lesser specs anyhow so your more likely to lower graphical settings to play nicely thus image quality wont be a dealbreaker for you (I think so).

As for new buyers, it depends if you can stump up to pay more for a 16GB card. But if you cant afford to jump that gap, no need to be made to feel like your a poor beggar unworthy to game, just buy whatever you can afford as new GPU releases out is comfortably playable at reasonable level (1080P) if your willing to tweak game settings whether you want image quality or FPS.

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jun 20 2025, 10:26 AM

Don't worry guys after fake frames, neural texture aka fake vram coming to the rescue.



VRAM-friendly neural texture compression inches closer to reality — enthusiast shows massive compression benefits with Nvidia and Intel demos

If fake frame keeps doubling every generation by the time DLSS7 comes it will be 32 fakes for every 1 real frame or in other words you will be 'watching' your gaming instead of actually playing since AI bot will play for you (30 FFPS- Fake Frames Per Second).

Logically, if they follow video compression usage of reference frames and vector prediction method, the maximum possible frames would be 16 frames.

Hopefully I did good. So much has changed (or rather refined) in 12 years for DIY/custom build your own PC.

I used to wonder where the PSUs are in builds posted but I now know it

the desk is asking for some rgb stripe too.

Another gamr i test. But is pirate version la
I set very high preset, some area can use over 8GB vram
Around 7GB RAM

Spiderman 2

Mindseye very poor performance. Can use near 10GB RAM, yet shutter too much, can drop below 20fps

New arrival. 3060. What year is this?

2022. LOL its about the same price for a 3060 12GB back in 2022 when I was building my rig, so to those who bought 3060s back then should rejoice your GPU did not depreciate in pricing at all!

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Jul 5 2025, 09:07 AM

Physical investment.🤭

NVIDIA confirms end of support for GeForce GTX 700, 900 and 10 series after 580 drivers 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-next-ma...0-and-10-series

End of driver update for 10 series below

Oblivion Remastered:


Surprisingly, quite a number of games support 32:9, and the experience is incredibly immersive.

It's in the works. A bunch of items have been sitting in my checkout cart since May, but they're not a priority at the moment.

I'm also just now learning about all these hexagon RGB lights, the different brands and how the setups work, never paid much attention until recently.

For now, I'm absolutely enjoying the 8K-wide 240Hz (depending on the game with DLSS + MFG) experience.

How is your Ventus 3x? I'm planning to get it for my SFF, my current 3080 Ti Ventus 3X is just too hot for the case combo and the heatsink doesn't cut it for the 350W card, but might be passable for the 300W card.

The Ventus 3X is great because it is easily de-shroud and used together with case fan.

I'm also wonder if Zotac Core or Core SFF will have better heatsinks and how difficult to de-shroud them.

Not sure it is worth the slight upgrade..

This post has been edited by edmund_yung: Jul 7 2025, 10:55 AM

can i just upgrade my 3070 to 5070 without changing my existing PSU? currently using corsair RM750x

750W should work.

So far working fine, no issue with it at all.
Updated to the latest Nvidia and no crash found at all.
undervolting the card does help with the temp as it max out around 70C during gaming despite it is SFF case.
The only gripe I see is that the ventus 3x is entry card which power limit only at 100%. it seem to be hard locked bios unable to push further.