I bet are DLSS gonna be adopted by many games developer in future, but ray-tracing really still sounds like gimmick now

Skip this gen, wait and see next gen how, by that time we should know if both tech are success or gimmick, based on feedback/popularity of supported games.

Anyone getting FPS boost by rolling back to 399.12 driver?

Let's be clear here, ray tracing isn't a gimmick. Aren't you a photographer? You should know how important lighting is.

Ray tracing is a future for 3D graphics the world is heading to. But it needs a stepping stone and yes, unfortunate as it sounds - people have to be suckers to adopt the first generation of consumer GPUs in order to push the industry forward. It's just a pill that the industry has to swallow, that's all.

Everyone can talk shit about the prices, about how self centered in what nvidia has to give you and all that bigot nonsense, but at the end of the day - ray tracing for the masses need to start somewhere.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Oct 18 2018, 07:37 PM

I know ray tracing are good technology for games, but it has yet to prove it's worthiness or wide acceptance by game developer. Gimmick are idea that attract people, regardless useful or not, until it become success, it's still gimmick now.
What worry me are performance reduction ( even with dedicated cores ) are quite high and it might steer game developers away. Comes to think, DLSS also nVidia technology, but as it's actually improve performance ( with acceptable quality degradation ) in theory should be widely accepted by game developers.

We'll know in coming years

Do take note that 1070 Ti and 1080 are being phased out.

Isit me only or zotac 1070ti amp extreme kinda too heavy until it looks like tilt a bit on right side? Lol. It occupied 1/3 of my tecware nexus m casing
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theres a lot of aspect of turing that ppl are not talking about

https://devblogs.nvidia.com/introduction-tu...g-mesh-shaders/

the mesh pipeline.. its shorter... and already seen in vulkan it wipes pascal...

if more dx12 games use this.. we gonna see similar improvement.. this is why Jsen said u cannot compare them to previous cards via conventional per cuda core improvement.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Oct 18 2018, 11:03 PM

Cannot compare especially the pricing

Obviously

The only RTX card that I see "worth" buying now is the 2080ti. Apart from that, both the 2080 and 2070 do not offer a single reason for anyone to buy it now.

again bro.. all these comments atm still at the now.

i am guessing once we see more nvidia sponsered dev start coding games for that rtx mesh lod pipeline.. (based on vulkan which seems to favor the shorter dynamic pipeline).. we gonna see a bitch slapping of pascal.
with dlss.. double whammy

side note for rtx 2080ti..

my 7820x @4.8ghz cinebench 2060/uncore 3200/4000 cl17@1.3v

for 1440p few games on fps unlock i see dips. when i set it to 65( single player games)-144 (multiplayer).. no drops..
the cpu could catch up.. drops as in 30-40 fps.. cpu bound until da gpu got starved.



This post has been edited by cstkl1: Oct 20 2018, 01:22 AM

RM 2599 RTX 2070
RM 1899 GTX 1070 Ti

This seems like a really nice card, but when you're already paying well over RM2600 it's hard not to justify paying another RM1900 for a card with ~10% or more performance (like the RTX2070)
That is, based on the results in this article, the value proposition doesn't seem to hold up. The performance delta is far greater then the cost savings
I'd pay half as much for 2/3rds the performance, but that's really not the case here. Seems like allot less GPU for just a little less money
RTX overpriced

Exactly. "Worth" Either go all in or wait for 30-series in my opinion.

If you 'want to invest in the future' then 2080/2070 is for you (if you believe in it).

It's high time Nvidia learnt from the disastrous 20-series launch.... too early without RTX/DLSS titles!

...But I have to give them props for making the first bold steps in real-time Ray Tracing and using the aid of AI in a consumer GPU.

In certain big generation leap, first gen/early adopters will be the ones paying premium for tech that has has yet to be fully supported.

Got a feeling they price it like that so people will clear the remaining 10xx stocks

Update on 3Dmark score & ~10 FPS lower across games i encountered on Zotac RTX 2080 Ti, had a super busy week troubleshooting, finally resolved but not best of solution. Confirm not the GFX card since it was performing good in my second PC.
Tried everything from win 1809 roll back to 1803, fresh windows reinstall, Bios flash to latest/older prior to Intel CPU fixes, all Nvidia drivers. All sign points to the GPU not fully utilized hovering 70 -90% usage. At the end, replaced my motherboard from Asrock Z370M ITX to Asus Strix Z390-E, problem solved. Summary, either Asrock has issue or mITX boards are restrictive.
Just sharing for those who plan to upgrade

Left Asus Z390-E, Right Asrock Z370M ITX


This post has been edited by dexth: Oct 22 2018, 02:29 PM

what...???

lets change all to asus mobo.

Haha interesting

Despite dreaming of the latest and the greatest, remember that many more gamers are hoping for improvements at the RM 500-800, mainstream budget. Only when you come to lowyat then you feel like RM 1100-1900 is the normal price range for GPUs... basically the "enthusiast" budget level.

When will we see the next budget king like GTX550 Ti and GTX1050 Ti?

This post has been edited by mbr: Oct 22 2018, 03:50 PM

1050ti isn’t the real budget king

the real one is gtx1060 6GB after launch. My friend bought brand new for less than 1k short time after launch that’s a steal

The one less than 1k was the 3GB version, as I recall. I got my 1050Ti at around RM 650 also. Less than RM800 and can handle 1080p beautifully... I think that is the sweet spot there. Many reviewers call it "best bang for your buck".

This post has been edited by mbr: Oct 23 2018, 09:34 AM