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International Medical University, IMU @ Bukit Jalil, Seremban, & Johor
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Julian2103
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Dec 13 2010, 09:26 AM
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Hey Guys,
Im currently studying in Moscow. Im interested to explore the option of credit transferring to IMU. Reason not being I dont think the quality of education sucks, but rather to distance myself from the stigma that surrounds the whole " Russian graduate" issue.
I'm not going to start to defend my current university as Im sure many of you are educated enough to realise that the problem with Russia is not the lack of quality of professors but rather the lax acceptance of students.
Have any of you heard of such a case? Im referring to credit transfer. Im an good student and it is possible for me to provide letters of reccomendation by lecturers as well as results from my current uni.
Im looking to do the fully local program. Hopefully I can be accepted into the first year or second year directly because Im nearing the end of my clinical years already. So it's probably not fair for me to relearn the muscles of the forearm when I can describe the pathogenesis of hypovolemic shock. Please let me know what you guys think and wish me all the best:(
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junyong5155
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Dec 13 2010, 09:30 AM
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I don't think there's any credit transfer in imu. Even my friend who finished 3rd year medical student in russia need start all over again.
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zstan
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Dec 13 2010, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Julian2103 @ Dec 13 2010, 09:26 AM) Hey Guys, Im currently studying in Moscow. Im interested to explore the option of credit transferring to IMU. Reason not being I dont think the quality of education sucks, but rather to distance myself from the stigma that surrounds the whole " Russian graduate" issue. I'm not going to start to defend my current university as Im sure many of you are educated enough to realise that the problem with Russia is not the lack of quality of professors but rather the lax acceptance of students. Have any of you heard of such a case? Im referring to credit transfer. Im an good student and it is possible for me to provide letters of reccomendation by lecturers as well as results from my current uni. Im looking to do the fully local program. Hopefully I can be accepted into the first year or second year directly because Im nearing the end of my clinical years already. So it's probably not fair for me to relearn the muscles of the forearm when I can describe the pathogenesis of hypovolemic shock. Please let me know what you guys think and wish me all the best:( why not think on the brighter side.... finish your studies there and come back to malaysia and prove that not all russia graduates are flops...
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Hikari0307
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Dec 13 2010, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Julian2103 @ Dec 13 2010, 09:26 AM) Hey Guys, Im currently studying in Moscow. Im interested to explore the option of credit transferring to IMU. Reason not being I dont think the quality of education sucks, but rather to distance myself from the stigma that surrounds the whole " Russian graduate" issue. I'm not going to start to defend my current university as Im sure many of you are educated enough to realise that the problem with Russia is not the lack of quality of professors but rather the lax acceptance of students. Have any of you heard of such a case? Im referring to credit transfer. Im an good student and it is possible for me to provide letters of reccomendation by lecturers as well as results from my current uni. Im looking to do the fully local program. Hopefully I can be accepted into the first year or second year directly because Im nearing the end of my clinical years already. So it's probably not fair for me to relearn the muscles of the forearm when I can describe the pathogenesis of hypovolemic shock. Please let me know what you guys think and wish me all the best:( For medicine, credit transferring and transferring to other Universities if the two institutes do not have an agreement is generally not allowed at all except in really exceptional situations which are way beyond your control. Why not just finish your education there. If your good then your good, if not then well... If your good enough, show to people that your good when you come back. ^^
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Syd G
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Dec 13 2010, 10:13 AM
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Mom. Servant of God.
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@Julian Just finish your degree there, and prove yourself worthy during your HOship. There are lousy doctors from local institutions too.
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Julian2103
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Dec 13 2010, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(junyong5155 @ Dec 13 2010, 09:30 AM) I don't think there's any credit transfer in imu. Even my friend who finished 3rd year medical student in russia need start all over again. That means he has to start from SAM all over again? Thanks for the answers guys. I am just looking to explore my options. Somehow or rather I believe in IMU I am able to receive training that is more relevant and practical to studying in Malaysia. I will send them an email later this week because Im currently in the midst of gruelling semester-end exams:) Yes, I am also prepared to work very hard and prove all the critics wrong. I have been in touch with some russian graduates (good students) and they all tell me it is challenging at first because of the stigma and the different protocol but after a while with a good attitude they are soon at par with the others. I sincerely hope so. Some unbiased people need to tell me good stories of Russian graduates because all I read is this Horror stories againIf you are in my shoes, you would feel severely discouraged to read of such unforgivable mistakes being made my people who share the same degree from my university(probably). By the way in case you are wondering, yes I can differentiate cyanosed patients from sleeping ones:P
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Syd G
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Dec 13 2010, 10:44 AM
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Mom. Servant of God.
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Julian, Do tonnes of attachments when you're back on holidays
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Julian2103
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Dec 13 2010, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Dec 13 2010, 10:44 AM) Julian, Do tonnes of attachments when you're back on holidays  Yeah I plan to do the one with HUKM. Apparently its like rm700 and allows stints in two different departments. Im going to forego summer holidays and immerse myself into this practicals:) Im looking forward to it as it will be a gauge for myself as whether Im up to par. So pumped up for it!
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zedstat
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Dec 13 2010, 12:01 PM
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go for it mate. just finish ur degree first. yes i understand the stigma but again prove them wrong
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zstan
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Dec 13 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Julian2103 @ Dec 13 2010, 10:46 AM) Yeah I plan to do the one with HUKM. Apparently its like rm700 and allows stints in two different departments. Im going to forego summer holidays and immerse myself into this practicals:) Im looking forward to it as it will be a gauge for myself as whether Im up to par. So pumped up for it! honestly i don't know how much you can prove with the attachment but its a good try nevertheless.
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limeuu
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Dec 13 2010, 12:24 PM
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this case emphasises a problem i have highlighted many years ago, but which was severely flammed by some forumers.....
that is, you will generally be branded and judged by the institution you trained in........
we all know melbourne u selects their med students VERY carefully, and so if one comes across a medical graduate from melbourne, one will immediately know this is a well trained and knowledgeable doctor (note this does NOT mean he is a 'good' doctor).........
on the other hand, we all know that many med schools will accept anyone as long as you pay money.....it used to be india, now it's russia......
so automatically, when one comes across a doctor from russia, the first question that enters one's mind is.....did he buy his degree, or is he a deserving and competent graduate..........he is be automatically branded as suspect till proven otherwise.....
the biblical saying is very true.....as you sow, so you will reap.....as you select your med students, so you will determine the quality of your doctors.....
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Julian2103
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Dec 13 2010, 04:01 PM
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I fully agree with the post above. Thanks guys. You all have been very encouraging. Always remember that there are alot of russian students who are making the most our of our education here and lie sometimes sleepless at night wishing there were other options. I got straight A1's for all my subjects in spm except mandarin B3 and was not even accepted for matrics.
When you can't afford uk or australia and still believe with all of your heart that it is your calling in life to be a doctor, frankly there are not many options.
Do me a favor guys, when you start work and one of your colleague is a Russian graduate with a good attitude and sad eyes, buy them a cup of tea ok because we are used to thinking that everyone is going to hate us when we graduate. There are many students here in my predicament. There are terrible students too that don't deserve to be 50 feet near a hospital but there also are good ones.
Ps. Imu replied. They don't take exchange students :')
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Gorila_
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Dec 13 2010, 04:23 PM
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Do some attachment and take more history and clinical examination when you are in hospital...
I actually dissapoints the HO during my attachment. He look at me in a very dissapointed way, and tell me "Do you know few months ago there was a russian med student doing elective. He is clerking patients all the day. You know, RUSSIAN med school." He actually emphasises the country.
You'll learn better if you see the patients with your own eyes.
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Julian2103
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Dec 13 2010, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Gorila_ @ Dec 13 2010, 04:23 PM) Do some attachment and take more history and clinical examination when you are in hospital... I actually dissapoints the HO during my attachment. He look at me in a very dissapointed way, and tell me "Do you know few months ago there was a russian med student doing elective. He is clerking patients all the day. You know, RUSSIAN med school." He actually emphasises the country. You'll learn better if you see the patients with your own eyes. Well I guess he is like me then. The ones who really want to succeed:)
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Cristiano-Ronaldo-7
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Dec 19 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Dec 7 2010, 08:14 AM) haven't seen this thread for a long long time. for those who have been matched to UK, sorry to say but you probably have to take your ielts again. apparently under some new guideline, new students applying for visa have to do so with a valid ielts score. since the ielts score is only valid for 2 years........ i think the new guidelines will affect those applying for visa next yr onwards. i managed to get my visa done even with an expired ielts score.  how did you manage to get away with that! lucky you!! i really dont wanna take it again though! btw, seems like this years eos5 was up to par with m208 again, i think almost 0 failures again. i havent visited the thread in a while.. finally can say my journey here is finally over. will check from time to time, to give advice to anyone new to the medical program at imu. sorry so say i'm a bit blur with the other faculties but i'll try my best to help out!
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kane_WWE_07
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Jan 11 2011, 09:04 PM
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Hey guys, I would like to ask is it a must to take MUET to enter IMU for all courses? What is the minumum band to enter? Must i take b4 enter IMU?
I also heard that in Medicine, we need IELTS and MUET to apply? Do we need both of it or either 1 of it?
This post has been edited by kane_WWE_07: Jan 11 2011, 11:43 PM
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limeuu
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Jan 12 2011, 01:12 AM
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imu wants ielts.........
mohe wants muet.......
so need both
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C-Note
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Jan 12 2011, 02:05 AM
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hey guys,
when should i start applying? My Alvls end in June.
One more thing, if i want to apply for dentistry twinning to aussie, can i submit all 3 twinning universities?(Adelaide, UWA,Queensland)
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limeuu
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Jan 12 2011, 08:14 AM
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apply now.......
you do NOT choose where you will be matched to......you rank ALL the pds, and see what the computer matches you to at the end......
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cckkpr
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Jan 12 2011, 10:47 AM
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I had a chat with an IMU lecturer over the weekend at the Star Education Fair and she agreed that the allocation of the PMS/PDS is dependent very much on the RANKING that was selected and not soley on merit.
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