you need both IELTS and MUET.

dam true. study rubbish subjects they purposely elongate the duration for that. Means we need to sit in class for like 8 am to 5 pm for rubbish subjects like sociology and primary health care. sociology we learn about malays, chinese and indians. Learn so deep till we're suppose to marry them. Then the lecturer's punya slide she also don't know what is she teaching, so the best way is read from slides. Lecturers for nursing earn rm 5k masters earn rm 10k or less. so they dun giv a dam about us. Money is there. They just sit. I even call 1 lecturer that always come late 15 mins for class. So sien. That takes away our break time for 15 mins. I kena scolded for that shit, she says, " follow your clock or mine". I think better go australia study nursing. They use more brain in thinking about disease condition affecting mankind and more skills practices rather that we ourselves should practice alone in skills lab and the duration is less. Every week exam. Who on earth wana practice since we have to study rubbish subjects lke PHC about goverment's budget on health care and when it's raised how much subsidize. And the sociology is like studying business, about an organisation, how it is divided, there is upper class, mid class n lower class. And upper class is thinker, mid class is the associates and the lower class works as labour. Like u know in the past it's always been this way. That's in the past, know that for what. Now even lower class like students who aren't working, can bring down those upper class in future. They just need to use their brains. Play with power and bribery. And seriously i hate how woman teach. dam shit. Treat us like small school kindergarten. "understand or not", bla bla bla all from the slides. No stressors points. What's power point for? If u get the main point then the rest we do it ourselves reading from there. Dun hav to bla bla bla all from slides. My ears dam pain. The clinical instructor also shit 1. Expect us to be dam competent like her. And insults or compares others with those that r good. I mean we pay the money there to be compared and judged? I got the lowest mark so far in the clinical evaluation. I did correctly, but i wana do it slow and carefully. Can't i? Y must harsh and fast like chickens lose their heads. Ok if they wan me to be like that, let me experience it myself. Let me keep working. Dun hav to judge me like a b****. Then she begins to ask non related questions that r not in our scope of studies. For example, we learn about autoclave, the temperature and use, she begins to ask the duration and cycles and the cooling room and the duration between each cycle and the bla bla bla etc. non related to our scope. WE ONLY STUDY WHAT WE KNOW. 1 thing i hate, i'm an athlete since small, and the stress ecg, must say eat 2 hours of light meal before the test. And the nurse there just say like take breakfast before the test FULL STOP! God dam it, y must i include 2 hours. REMEMBER 2 hours for what? For nothing. Even running, there is no specificity. Just eat as long dun overeat. She scolded me for not telling the 2 hours. f*** that shit. I'm quitting this year. And oh yea. For the records, nursing in IMU is mixed with those retards. You see cgpa is only 2.0 to get in. Got many retards there including male and female. Retards like a girl who so kiasu scores all the time wana drag the whole class to a review classes before end of sem exam to ask stupid questions like how rockets fly, or why do birds have wings to fly. As if she wants the doctors in IMU to clarify nicely for her in a nice vivid way like rockets r made aerodynamicly. The speed to fly is ..... The momentum build up per .. s to ... s is equivalent to the uplift vs the weightage. In other words for the long story, is simple just a few words can make her faggot head to understand " IT IS MADE TO FLY", "ROCKETS ARE MADE BY HUMANS TO FLY ACCORDING TO PHYSICS" AND "BIRDS ARE MADE BY GOD TO FLY ACCORDING TO PHYSICS" GOT IT? Damn sad la. freak. ask questions about pluto when she's on earth. If u wana know, find out yourselves. Get into a shuttle and go there n venture out yourselves! Scared? Need others to go there and u just relax and ask funny questions. And i learnt that my grades won't go up unless i kiss ass in front of lecturer. Do what i'm told and pretend to be happy with it showing enthusiasm and interests and knowledge though it's bullshit. Bullshit man i clean ass also got scolded of being slow to clean ass. What's her problem? I'm doing my job. As long i do it patient will not suffer. Slow speed is up to me. It doesn't say slow = patient die. b**** out of ma way! A lecturer told me rm5k is not enough. She's bullshit. She do not know the value of money. My dad earn 3k only still can support me. What bullshit. I only ate 1 meal a day that costs rm8. She takes different varieties of fast food like chicken fish vege and another vege and a drink that cause rm 10 a meal. She's spending rm 10 x 3 a day. I saw her at canteen. She can easily bring a bottle of water and refill for free on water dispenser at hospitals instead of buying drinks. She's taking her masters. Cause she wants to go away from bedside care to a relax position. And when i asked what am i not competent, she can't tell me. She just go out of point and say i can't speak professionally and other shit. Dam funny. My patients know what i'm talking only she doesn't. It is the patient i should speak to and she just be a good observer b****. I'm the one talking. Not her. And patient understands. So be it. I hate talking to her. So it makes my blood boils like hell. Came late to work somemore. 7am is da shift she came at 7.35 to 7.40 am. I do speak like shit to those that r like shit. How cud a lower class be so mean? She said she came from poor family and shit. Who cares. Just ripped the time to study. Make sure u got good grades and leave da place to be with those intelligent thinkers open-minded people. Of course that won't screw a shit on your family at kampung. Just visit once in a while and cash back. So narrow- minded following her way. She won't go far. Taking masters like she own shit. I'm gonna be the boss and fire her at whatever means. Or maybe use her to work till burntout. That's what nurses are for.

wow. that's an interesting read. so i assume that you are a nursing student?

So much rage to be pissed about one lecturer. In life you'll meet a lot of unpleasant people - if you cant handle one person how are you going to handle many many unpleasant patients? And to get personal is uncalled for - who cares if she said 5k is not enough or the fact that she tells you that you're incompetent. It just reflects back on her inability to manage money and her insecurity towards the fact that she doesnt like to do bedside care.

If you cant learn to pick and choose out whatever life throws at you - nursing is definitely not for you.

agree with Syd G. From your ranting, I reckon Nursing isn't really the right profession for you, or for many others out there doing nursing. Also, you mentioned about how you hate women teaching, are you a sexist? (review your own words) Sociology and PHC are there for a reason. Why, I did all the alma ata declaration and stuff too. Seems useless, but these things give u a better understanding of the field your working in. Not to mention it helps in communication to know the differences between the classes existing in the community. You'll be surprised how many doctors/nurses screws up in communications these days. Some just speak w/o their brains literally. The teacher is expecting a certain lvl of competence, ie you being able to do the task RIGHT and FAST, i dont see whats wrong with that. You saying that you wanna do it at your own time correctly and appropriately just shows well, incompetence in completing the task on time, sorry to say =/ Patients life is at stake, you can't just do it slowly.

Since you are still in the midst of your studies, pls review whether what you are pursuing is the correct choice that you have chosen. It will hurt both ways if it isnt. Worse still, in certain situations, its between saving a soul and letting the poor fella go.

Think carefully whether nursing suits you or not. Able to do your job fast and accurately/correctly means you're competent. Who on earth want to employ a nurse who do his or her job correctly but very slow, while there are lot of nurses who can do their job fast and correctly? This is what we called competency and you shouldn't blame your lecturers when they are expecting some competency from you. You're not going to take care one or two patients only when you're working as a nurse next time. I strongly believe that whatever subject that you took is beneficial to you. Dun ever complain for learning more stuffs and there's no such thing as rubbish subject.

Dude relax la. Work everyday sure fast. Don't have to say noob or shit. 1 week in the bedside how be fast. Somemore i love helping. See situation la, not busy do slow la, busy do fast. But people can't see logic. Well that defines it. It's built by experience. Not insults. Damn boring hearing insults. It's like wa they're damn good for 10 years in this field. Me only 1 year. dam shit. Of course i'll take insults. But dude, a 10th to a 1th. That's stupid. How about if i'm at the 10th and she's at the 10th, equal to compete. dam boring la compete like that. Of course she wins.

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Added on November 29, 2010, 7:45 pmlater u go seremban see yourself. Staff nurse pick MA(med assistant) who CPR on patient's side instead of anteriorly above patient's ribs at mid-section between 2 nipples. We just bag. And patient dies. The truth. Who's right and wrong? Saving a soul when he's MVA Intracranial Hemorrhage. I think he's just vegetative state. All i can do is make sure the EVD is properly managed and nutrition is fed adequately according to prescribed pump. So tell me, this patient, saving a soul or not depends on God above waiting for the calling. All i can do is provide comfort, so i do it slowly.

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Added on November 29, 2010, 7:58 pmDamn true. Cause it's rigid. The only way you can play nursing is kiss ass and pretend to be good like my seniors just to get out. But hell no for me. "Kiss ass" is not my lifestyle. I'll never 'kiss ass' till the day i die. Show em' what victory means. Gonna pick up the challenge life throws and deal with it. I only wrote this to say that it's a sad life in the end. But it's a total joy helping at all cost. But still a sad life. Some people just don't get it cause they're not in the same "shoes".

This post has been edited by Ricardo: Nov 29 2010, 07:58 PM

then don't quit, study hard, and change the world with your views. =) rather than being put down by one person, why not just stand up and make a difference? Seeing the incompetence of your peers, that'll be a very good motivation for you. At least, that is for me. =) We all want to make the world a better place, lil by lil.

Hello Ricardo, just quit IMU and join somewhere else.

And btw I have no idea what point are you trying to make here. IMU sux? or that teacher sux? or you are not up to par?

Management problem. IMU sux. They must test those teachers who are nurses before simply employing esp. the ones from India. Low qualification they still take. -.- Then they should be strict with their time. Lecturers come late, replace the time = waste time. Or lecturers did not present when we are present, zzz. Wait like 2 hours. Cause the Academic Affairs Department put time wrongly. Damn gila la wei. waste time like that. If not can use for practice man. Wtf.

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Added on November 30, 2010, 7:16 amNurses can't change anything. We're the rats. We just do what we're told and carry our responsibility. Soon enough you'll see people get fired easily esp. the nurses for bullshit things. Go youtube and type la research yourself, type nurses sacked. Find the world outside. Don't be so inside only in Malaysia. Doc's got docs' w/o borders. There is no such thing as murses' w/o borders. It's quite a low profession. Even if you're damn great and studies hard. The doc's are the ones that still do what he wants. If he( the specialist) wants to talk thrash and do slow. What can she do. She wanna rush fast also cannot. So it's "follow the leader" instead of leading for the patient's comfort etc. like what we're suppose to do. Our stupid responsibility.

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Added on November 30, 2010, 7:47 amother courses are good. medicine and health sciences. won't fail unless you procrastinate and enjoy clubbing all the time. the most people do is club once a week and that's it. other courses have smart students to cling with. Means you can study in groups easily. My course... -.- all by yourselves. Study in groups in better in Uni. You won't miss those points to remember by asking your friends beside you. Learning is fun. Go IMU for that except for nursing. Even when EOS(End of sem exam) they still ask us to go for workshops to help little children build up interests in nursing. Study smart not hard. Mine is for hard. Cause a lot of bullshits that we must do in the ward though it's not appropriate. Can argue till with a no solution. Cause in the end, i'll tell the clinical instructor, "forget it, i'll do whatever u say, master, even if it's not in my scope of studies". A good course, how it is managed, will allow students to argue and critique till a solution comes out. Like medicine, my friends just love to ask those hard questions to challenge those docs in IMU who earn their Phd. Not bad. And same goes to pharm, biomed, etc. In any course structure, the subjects are taught by the doctors. Nursing got also a few, then most of it is by nursing lecturers. OMG. We ask questions challenge them, all they can say is go back find yourself, or another lecturer is teaching u about this right, go find her. Or search books, take initiative. or i'll search up for you and tell you tomorrow( which she herself didn't even search anything). Then the next day come, she presents her research in like for example, ERCP is this endoscopic ...... inserted retrogadely from behind ( cause retrogade means behind) to see the bile duct and pancreatic duct. Then she asks us what's the intersection that joins the pancreatic duct and bile duct. In my head, "damn shit, teach me shit". I answered Ampulla of Vater. Clap clap. That's shitty. That 1 is learnt since sem 1. I mean i want more better explanation than this. So cheap skate. I want to know, the purpose of the dye injected to see what? Blockage? so if there is any blockage? how to treat? remove? So if remove... what complications will it cost? What are the side effects my patient will face? What medications will he/she has to take? What causes her to get a crystallized bile in the first place? Food? genetic? Age? Digestive problems or liver malfunction. Damn shit! That's all what is researched by her. And to spend my time with class with her telling me this short crap for 8 hours, we can use the time to find more for ourselves instead of having long classes with this crap.

This post has been edited by Ricardo: Nov 30 2010, 07:47 AM

As a current student, I think we are not as good as our seniors( as in those who have graduated). Their curriculum is packed, lecturer is strict. Now IMU only thinks about cost cutting, increase fees. There have been few prof in seremban just dissapeared, causing some chaos at there.

Even our lecturer ask the weak JPA students not to go PMS, but come back to seremban, just because they are weak. SEREMBAN is not rubbish dump, we are just a group of people that are not born with silver spoon. One of my batchmate, switch to graduate entry PMS after knowing that news (lecturer defaming seremban).

imu's reputation is purely based on the pms stream (aka backdoor entry into western med schools with some cost savings)........the local stream will be like all the other ipts med schools.....except they have some senior well qualified clinicians on their faculty.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 4 2010, 02:51 PM

haven't seen this thread for a long long time.

for those who have been matched to UK, sorry to say but you probably have to take your ielts again. apparently under some new guideline, new students applying for visa have to do so with a valid ielts score. since the ielts score is only valid for 2 years........
i think the new guidelines will affect those applying for visa next yr onwards. i managed to get my visa done even with an expired ielts score.

if you are not there yet, means you have been matched to either dundee, aberdeen or notts..........

may be a new rule next year, but NOT required as per the cas document at this point.........

actually, if you read the ukba guidelines carefully, they do NOT require it since it's a level 6 study, but the uni may, as part of the cas documentation........

I think that it's true that you need to go into anything in life with a positive attitude and give your best before telling other people's flaws. But then, Ricardo isn't an idiot. He wants to work hard, and he doesn't kiss ass. I don't see anything wrong with that. He's a student and still learning. That's why he needs guidance. He needs instruction. Someone to be constructive. Rather than the clinical instructor just telling him that he's not good enough, the clinical instructor should help him, give him another try, and encourage him to practice more. Why can't people use positive motivators like encouragement?

I suppose I sound naive, delusional, or maybe condescending. But I really need to just say this. People need to stop being so rigid and focusing only on their work, and try to open their hearts. Love yourself and love others. We're all human beings, nobody's perfect. Would it hurt to show someone some kindness and reach out to them? Just talking politely and have a caring attitude, it's free yet worth far more than money.

IMU does provide education. It's a business, they can't give customers what they want without the money for it. They have to make something after all. I just wish they could be conscious of how strong their influence is. How society and students need so much the opportunity for higher education that they're willing to pledge so much for it. They take in so many students, they're affecting so many lives. They really need to care about these lives, the futures that are being shaped by each enrollment. They could provide qualified lecturers that students can better relate to and familiarize with, and they can help students by having different types of classes as opportunities for them to reinforce what they learnt in lectures, as a chance for them to practice what they learnt more often with guidance. The course requirements doesn't tell students what they should be prepared for when enrolling into the university. Rather than simply marketing themselves, IMU could also fulfill a social responsibility by helping people decide if IMU really is the right choice for them. These students are still kids after all, taking responsibility for their own learning can be hard, they need a hand now and again. There are a lot of students who are new in KL, living on their own in another state for the first time, for them to have to practice alone in the skills Lab it must be lonely.

It's really quite complicated. Ricardo can't just withdraw from the course, he at least needs to talk to a counsellor to identify what he really wants with his life, and whether or not he still has a chance to be happy in IMU and achieve what he wants.

Sorry if I was ranting so much, I needed to see if I was able to share my ideas and explain it to at least someone.

I heard for Chiro course, they had a twinning with a UK uni? is that true?

Why did i not encounter such problems in IMU? =/ what i did was enroll, passed, and go off. Simple as that, whats the matter? =/

oh, it's just that it's not the first time i heard someone being dissatisfied with IMU. Well, if you didn't have trouble with IMU, then good for you!

long post i suggest use spoiler friends. the wall of texts -.-
and do use paragraph. nice to see nice to read. =)