If you are from unrecoz med school, how can u pass NUS final year exams?

hence it is a valid question.....can they pass the nus/smc exams.....?

Why would a "bright" student enrolled in an unrecog med school and try the backdoor way to seek recognition?

He is not so "bright", no?

the fact that people are in imu means they either failed to enter nus, or did not bother to apply as they know they are not good enough to be serious contenders for entry......

one of the top students from the recently concluded phase 1 did apply, and in spite of getting near perfect ter score, did not get offered......

Somtimes ppl find it difficult to accept established facts and statistics and rely on their preconceived ideas that they are good and highly intelligent.

What more, when you run of facts to sustain your arguments and start calling other ppl names!

If you are from unrecoz med school, how can u pass NUS final year exams?

IMU-PMS students and IMU local students are taunting each other now?

both are equally almost to impossible with a medical degree.

can you please enlighten me on what's so bad to stay in Malaysia? from YOUR OWN POINT OF VIEW.

erm...applying and getting a PR is two different things right?

as far as i know...you only get the PR if you are willing to serve in the rural region..

they divide you students will divide themselves into 2 groups, during big group lectures.

one group sits on the left side of the auditorium, one groups sit at the right side of the auditorium.

lol. i'm surprised medical student also behave that way.

I agree. I could never understand how could a person call himself poor if he can do A Level instead of the free STPM. What more, at the expensive Taylor and everything around it.

30K is still 30K too much if you are really poor.

i was not critising him.

i am just stating the fact that, he's friend is not poor enough for IMU's scholarship.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=765876

this guy said

"Since I am an international medical graduate with a non-registrable degree, I was advised by the SMC to take a qualifying exam, in the form of the final year MBBS exam of the YLLSOM, to be allowed to participate in the HO/MO match in Singapore.

I would appreciate any tips on how to prepare for this exam, especially from those who have recently taken/soon will take the same exam. I am totally new to Singapore medical training, and have no idea what to expect from that do-or-die exam."

In my opinion, one should be given the chance to practice in singapore and take up traineeship if he has the right knowledge,skills and attitute. NUS final MBBS which is tailored to NUS graduates, shouldn't be used to judge a non NUS graduate as he went through different training as the NUS graduates.

Problem is, the intake for IMU is in February and MMMC is August. While waiting for MMMC, don't you think I should do something else in between? I really have no idea. I m afraid that if I go MMMC directly, I might regret for not choosing IMU in the first place. At least after trying for one sem in IMU, I know how it is like. If it is good and worth it, then I might as well continue. But if it's like what you all said, expensive, money sucker and not worth it at all, I might as well pull out and go for MMMC. I don't know if this decision is wise or not. My parents are also afraid to let me go MMMC now as India is facing the super bug issue and I have no idea how serious it is now.

err.. i mean the term itself "4-handed dentistry"

i think medical students are also allowed to scrub in. I've assisted more than 30 operations in my gen surg, ortho and O&G postings.

My friends who went overseas for elective were even allowed to operate as the 1st surgeon, under observation of course.

I've never seen a so called (4 handed dentistry) in real life, even when i had my root canal treatment done 5 years ago by a specialist.

I had no intention to compare dental and medical school. "4 handed dentistry" was just a funny term for me.

that is very early.....lucky 2/08.......1/08 was severely delayed, and very 'non-conforming' with their stated matching principles......people who have failed tests still get matched over those with better results......there is obviously a system of 'spreading' the good and not so good students so not all good students get to popular ones, and the unpopular ones getting the crumbs.....

i'll be in england

IMU will usually accept people who later opt for seremban!! its still money for them

dam true. study rubbish subjects they purposely elongate the duration for that. Means we need to sit in class for like 8 am to 5 pm for rubbish subjects like sociology and primary health care. sociology we learn about malays, chinese and indians. Learn so deep till we're suppose to marry them.  Then the lecturer's punya slide she also don't know what is she teaching, so the best way is read from slides. Lecturers for nursing earn rm 5k masters earn rm 10k or less. so they dun giv a dam about us. Money is there. They just sit. I even call 1 lecturer that always come late 15 mins for class. So sien. That takes away our break time for 15 mins. I kena scolded for that shit, she says, " follow your clock or mine". I think better go australia study nursing. They use more brain in thinking about disease condition affecting mankind and more skills practices rather that we ourselves should practice alone in skills lab and the duration is less. Every week exam. Who on earth wana practice since we have to study rubbish subjects lke PHC about goverment's budget on health care and when it's raised how much subsidize. And the sociology is like studying business, about an organisation, how it is divided, there is upper class, mid class n lower class. And upper class is thinker, mid class is the associates and the lower class works as labour. Like u know in the past it's always been this way. That's in the past, know that for what. Now even lower class like students who aren't working, can bring down those upper class in future. They just need to use their brains. Play with power and bribery. And seriously i hate how woman teach. dam shit. Treat us like small school kindergarten. "understand or not", bla bla bla all from the slides. No stressors points. What's power point for? If u get the main point then the rest we do it ourselves reading from there. Dun hav to bla bla bla all from slides. My ears dam pain. The clinical instructor also shit 1. Expect us to be dam competent like her. And insults or compares others with those that r good. I mean we pay the money there to be compared and judged? I got the lowest mark so far in the clinical evaluation. I did correctly, but i wana do it slow and carefully. Can't i? Y must harsh and fast like chickens lose their heads. Ok if they wan me to be like that, let me experience it myself. Let me keep working. Dun hav to judge me like a b****. Then she begins to ask non related questions that r not in our scope of studies. For example, we learn about autoclave, the temperature and use, she begins to ask the duration and cycles and the cooling room and the duration between each cycle and the  bla bla bla etc. non related to our scope. WE ONLY STUDY WHAT WE KNOW. 1 thing i hate, i'm an athlete since small, and the stress ecg, must say eat 2 hours of light meal before the test. And the nurse there just say like take breakfast before the test FULL STOP! God dam it, y must i include 2 hours. REMEMBER 2 hours for what? For nothing. Even running, there is no specificity. Just eat as long dun overeat. She scolded me for not telling the 2 hours. f*** that shit. I'm quitting this year. And oh yea. For the records, nursing in IMU is mixed with those retards. You see cgpa is only 2.0 to get in. Got many retards there including male and female. Retards like a girl who so kiasu scores all the time wana drag the whole class to a review classes before end of sem exam to ask stupid questions like how rockets fly, or why do birds have wings to fly. As if she wants the doctors in IMU to clarify nicely for her in a nice vivid way like rockets r made aerodynamicly. The speed to fly is ..... The momentum build up per .. s to ... s is equivalent to the uplift vs the weightage. In other words for the long story, is simple just a few words can make her faggot head to understand " IT IS MADE TO FLY", "ROCKETS ARE MADE BY HUMANS TO FLY ACCORDING TO PHYSICS" AND "BIRDS ARE MADE BY GOD TO FLY ACCORDING TO PHYSICS" GOT IT? Damn sad la. freak. ask questions about pluto when she's on earth. If u wana know, find out yourselves. Get into a shuttle and go there n venture out yourselves! Scared? Need others to go there and u just relax and ask funny questions. And i learnt that my grades won't go up unless i kiss ass in front of lecturer. Do what i'm told and pretend to be happy with it showing enthusiasm and interests and knowledge though it's bullshit. Bullshit man i clean ass also got scolded of being slow to clean ass. What's her problem? I'm doing my job. As long i do it patient will not suffer. Slow speed is up to me. It doesn't say slow = patient die. b**** out of ma way! A lecturer told me rm5k is not enough. She's bullshit. She do not know the value of money. My dad earn 3k only still can support me. What bullshit. I only ate 1 meal a day that costs rm8. She takes different varieties of fast food like chicken fish vege and another vege and a drink that cause rm 10 a meal. She's spending rm 10 x 3 a day. I saw her at canteen. She can easily bring a bottle of water and refill for free on water dispenser at hospitals instead of buying drinks. She's taking her masters. Cause she wants to go away from bedside care to a relax position. And when i asked what am i not competent, she can't tell me. She just go out of point and say i can't speak professionally and other shit. Dam funny. My patients know what i'm talking only she doesn't. It is the patient i should speak to and she just be a good observer b****. I'm the one talking. Not her. And patient understands. So be it. I hate talking to her. So it makes my blood boils like hell. Came late to work somemore. 7am is da shift she came at 7.35 to 7.40 am. I do speak like shit to those that r like shit. How cud a lower class be so mean? She said she came from poor family and shit. Who cares. Just ripped the time to study. Make sure u got good grades and leave da place to be with those intelligent thinkers open-minded people. Of course that won't screw a shit on your family at kampung. Just visit once in a while and cash back. So narrow- minded following her way. She won't go far. Taking masters like she own shit. I'm gonna be the boss and fire her at whatever means. Or maybe use her to work till burntout. That's what nurses are for.

IMU does provide education. It's a business, they can't give customers what they want without the money for it. They have to make something after all. I just wish they could be conscious of how strong their influence is. How society and students need so much the opportunity for higher education that they're willing to pledge so much for it. They take in so many students, they're affecting so many lives. They really need to care about these lives, the futures that are being shaped by each enrollment. They could provide qualified lecturers that students can better relate to and familiarize with, and they can help students by having different types of classes as opportunities for them to reinforce what they learnt in lectures, as a chance for them to practice what they learnt more often with guidance. The course requirements doesn't tell students what they should be prepared for when enrolling into the university. Rather than simply marketing themselves, IMU could also fulfill a social responsibility by helping people decide if IMU really is the right choice for them. These students are still kids after all, taking responsibility for their own learning can be hard, they need a hand now and again. There are a lot of students who are new in KL, living on their own in another state for the first time, for them to have to practice alone in the skills Lab it must be lonely.