You need to give the error message. Without it we will not know why it fail.

Some terminal are not supported and some terminal don't allow mst.

scan is for pay wave
i means mst

can't you please help to explain the steps since you are success so many times to pay with mst?
it would as easy as just the sequence of steps are wrong
i had wrote down 2 sequence of steps in earlier post, but until now, nobody response to it

since no one share the clear steps for mst, below are my finding which i have no idea that is it the same at here

i watched a few youtube videos, and i assume that the steps for nfc and mst are different
for nfc, enter the amount, scan/tap and paid
for mst, scan, enter the amount and paid (which means that all the while, i was maybe tried with the wrong steps)

below videos are for mst, and i will try the below steps next time





This post has been edited by aaron80: Feb 4 2018, 06:17 PM

Most mst machine I tried is amount first only tap. Never seen tap first then key in amount

This post has been edited by Theoutspokenguy: Feb 4 2018, 06:27 PM

Im using aukey currently , didnt use the samsung ori stil fresh i the box

Not sure charging speed will degrade or not

Nice haha thank samsung pay

i failed for mst so many times until whenever the shop not support pay wave, i don't want to ask for a try anymore
i was tried with amount first and then tap too

If you're near samsung store, most of their stores got an area where they showcase spay with terminal and all. Maybe you can ask them how to use.
Btw I went to SES Pavilion just now and paid with spay. Their terminal was MST and the guy took my phone & tap it at the side where the card is supposed to be swiped. He put the amount 1st, then only he tapped my phone though.

Always on display consume alot battery or not actually? I like this alot as i no need trigger the home/power button to see the time

Yes but problem is many merchant still insist cannot use and require physical card only they put in amount

do take note of this credit limits on spay:

Maybank : RM 250 per day
Citibank : RM 1500 (RM 750 for NFC & RM 750 for MST)
Hong Leong Bank : RM 250
Standard Chartered : RM 1250 or 5 transaction per day whichever comes first
CIMB : RM 1000 per day
RHB : RM 1000 or 30 transactions (cumulative for both MST & NFC) whichever comes first.
(Limit would reset for RHB card once payment is made using the physical card with PIN verification.)


it's not even a factor, maybe like 1% say.. a day?

This post has been edited by noobandroid: Feb 4 2018, 09:09 PM

It's 1% per hour, according to Samsung official statement.

i used hlb card paid more than 250 also no problem

really? how come i remember that it is stated below 5% per day?
btw, for my phone during standby with either wifi or data on, aod on, every 2-3 hours drop 1%

I made a big mistake, I took out my case to wash cause oily, after holding the phone naked I am tempted to leave it that way, very powerful poison

May be Samsung is being conservative. May be the battery consuming becomes better after several updates. May be I remember it wrongly. Haha. Anyway, it's definitely consume more than 1%. I was trying to answer to the person who said aod consume 1% per day.

based on my own experience, it is maybe between 5% - 10% per day

This post has been edited by aaron80: Feb 4 2018, 10:53 PM

Mine overnight 8 hours battery drains around 9 percent with aod on, while when aod off around 3 percent. So I would say aod drains about 1 percent hourly at lowest brightness.

edit: everything else is on, WiFi, GPS, mobile data, Bluetooth to my smartwatch, with one sim card running and a micro sd card.

This post has been edited by mfa682: Feb 4 2018, 11:06 PM

buy a thin case then

thats what i did.

bought MNML case

I already did the hardwork for you why randomly experiment? Here my list stick to it and you will have alot fun with spay. Once awhile I will randomly try new shops to update my list.

So refer to my list you will know how often it fail so failure usually due to terminal.

All this is based on my actual usage and experience

Here also success rate of merchant bank terminal
Public bank - failure rate 90%
Hong Leong bank - failure rate 80%
Maybank - failure rate 20%
CIMB - failure rate 0%
Ambank - failure rate 10%


Aeon big - failure rate 0%
IKEA - failure rate 0%
Giant - failure rate 0%
Guardian failure rate 0% but only staff attitude problem
bHP failure rate 0%
Shell failure rate 80%
Caltex 50%
Starbucks 0%
Cafebene failure rate 50%
Petronas failure rate 0%
Macdonald 5%
Coffee bean failure rate 0%
Speedmart 99 - failure rate 50% with minimum
Familymart - failure rate 0% no minimum
My news - failure rate 100%
Mr. Diy - failure rate 100%
Sin tuck woh hardware - failure rate 100%
Hardware store near My house - failure rate 100%
Machinery shop near Mt house - failure rate 100%
Hardware shop near my work - failure 15%
Pet shop at giant kelana jaya - failure rate 0%
All IT hypermarket the curve - failure rate 100%
KFC - failure rate 70%


*Vendor that failure rate 100% can use physical card but not spay


Updated 5.2.18

This post has been edited by Theoutspokenguy: Feb 5 2018, 08:15 AM