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post Apr 4 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(luvox @ Apr 4 2019, 03:00 PM)
Kwsp wont give u money. Money will go straight into ur loan account. So u cant withdraw it to settle PL without hassle
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I think money will go straight to your account. At least it is like that in my case. Bought undercon property with discount from developer, still can withdraw 10% of SPA price from EPF.
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post Apr 8 2019, 06:07 PM

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Low cost flat walkup highest floor.
Won at below 50k, unchallenged single bidder win.
Tenanted monthly RM500.
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post Apr 11 2019, 06:20 PM

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post Apr 11 2019, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 27 2019, 09:29 PM)
Definitely can buy those low cost units or affordable housing scheme projects via lelong. Dont have no meet the criteria to buy.
As mention previously, got investors even willing to bid more than the market price for such units, coz via normal method, they got no chance to buy such property. Yes, still need to ask for consent. It will be given. Is just formality to complete the process. Here copy paste from somewhere:
Buying such units from lelong certainly no problem. You should be more concern about how to sell back in the future.
Coz your future potential buyer need to meet all the criteria. Easy to find such buyer? Easy to dispose off after 5 years? Here an example of the syarat-syarat (might not be the latest and other state will have their own set of criteria):

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Additional: Some state such as Johor and Penang even got criteria you can only sell back to Johorean or Penang ppl. The buyer I/C as proof.

That's the main reason why such property got no appreciation. Very limited subsale market.
Rental return wise no doubt is fantastic but some people will argue say you will find trouble collecting rent from those "lower income" group, and better not to waste effort venturing in such property.
Plus some people will say just leave it to those that really need, those that can only afford such property people. Not morally right to take away their "hak", as per this illustration:

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Haha. No right or wrong. Just general opinion from keyboard warrior, those netizens.
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Very good info. Thanks.
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post Apr 12 2019, 10:11 PM

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Reserve price started at RM4.8k only.
End up attracted 30 bidders just now.
Results sold at, as shown below:



But a quick check at subsale market can get unit priced at below 30k.
Anyway most probably all investors trying luck here coz not qualify to buy via normal subsale method.
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post Apr 14 2019, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 12 2019, 10:11 PM)
But a quick check at subsale market can get unit priced at below 30k.
Anyway most probably all investors trying luck here coz not qualify to buy via normal subsale method.
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which requirement(s) they not qualified via normal subsale method?
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post Apr 14 2019, 08:11 PM

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Any website to scout for lelong property?
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(chongmelvin2238 @ Apr 14 2019, 08:11 PM)
Any website to scout for lelong property?
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All the auctioneers website. But so far auctionlist is not so bad.

You can get it from tupai’s thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4712054/all
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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 14 2019, 05:34 PM)
which requirement(s) they not qualified via normal subsale method?
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Here, of course investors not qualify:

📍Warganegara malaysia berumur 18thn ke atas bermastautin di Negeri Selangor atau kawasan lembah kelang

📍Jumlah pendapatan seisi rumah ditetapkan tidak melebihi 5K, sekiranya hartanah melebihi 150K ke atas tidak melebihi 6K

📍Pembeli dan pasangan tidak pernah memiliki sebarang rumah di Negeri Selangor atau kawasan lembah klang (Pendek kata untuk First House Buyer shj)


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Haha. Another classic example. Everyone wait for further price drop.
And price end up back to last year pricing. tongue.gif

History of this unit:
2018-10-26 RM169,000 - no bidder
2018-11-27 RM152,100 - no bidder
2019-03-25 RM123,201 - no bidder
2019-04-25 RM 110,881 - sold at 158k



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post Apr 26 2019, 10:56 AM

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seems market still have lot of buyers but they prefer auction and not subsales ? how is the sub sales activities? still 70-80% from total transactions? or dropped??
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QUOTE(lucerne @ Apr 26 2019, 10:56 AM)
seems market still have lot of buyers but they prefer auction and not subsales ?  how is the sub sales activities? still 70-80% from total transactions? or dropped??
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Until price difference between auction and subsale is marginal, choosing auction is sensible.

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post Apr 26 2019, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(lucerne @ Apr 26 2019, 10:56 AM)
seems market still have lot of buyers but they prefer auction and not subsales ?  how is the sub sales activities? still 70-80% from total transactions? or dropped??
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Hot property is still highly sought after. Even 10% cheaper than subsale also people buying now.

Example:
Rainz Bukit Jalil by Exsim:
Unit #1: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=90991069
Unit #2: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92419466

High end condo at Sunway:
Unit #1 & 2: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92497678
13 bidders. Many rich buyers in the market still.
Tomorrow see this unit sold at how much: https://www.lelongtips.com.my/property/5781...or-for-RM792000
Subsale 860-880k can get same size unit. And is only 10% cheaper.

I-City, Shah Alam:
Unit#1: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92506493
At only 10% cheaper. 2nd round auction. Need to side deal pay other bidder also.


Why people dont buy through subsale?
I guess main reason is owners let go no longer bother about their property anymore. Maybe to find agent to help sell also they are lazy to do it.
So just let the bank auction their house a more direct straight forward approach.

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post Apr 26 2019, 12:33 PM

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yeah sell via agent may take long time since they always asking for impossible lower price to pleased the buyers. (or want to close sales faster)

auction may be higher than agent asking price ..
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post Apr 26 2019, 01:30 PM

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Those bid in lelong are mostly players or avid investors lah..

If u r subsale buyer, u will be eaten alive inside.
If yiu won, rest assure bcos other players dun think the high price is justifiable
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post Apr 26 2019, 05:15 PM

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Hi experts in auction properties, after we purchased the property for five years , were we able to sell it as sub sales property ?
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post Apr 26 2019, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(FortuneClub @ Apr 26 2019, 05:15 PM)
Hi experts in auction properties, after we purchased the property for five years , were we able to sell it as sub sales property ?
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Normal or regular property no issues with resale.

Affordable housing schemes, then you will be bound by any restrictions in place for that property.
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QUOTE(FortuneClub @ Apr 26 2019, 05:15 PM)
Hi experts in auction properties, after we purchased the property for five years , were we able to sell it as sub sales property ?
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should be non issues...

as long not buying PR1MA or RUMAWIP biggrin.gif
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post Apr 26 2019, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 26 2019, 12:11 PM)
Why people dont buy through subsale?
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heard from an experience banker that experience buyers prefer deal direct with the seller without going through the auction bidding, of course she did not reveal how her client did that.

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 26 2019, 06:54 PM)
heard from an experience banker that experience buyers prefer deal direct with the seller without going through the auction bidding, of course she did not reveal how her client did that.
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Contact the owner directly. Go the unit onsite auction and ask for the owner contact. Proclaimation of sale got write owner name.

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