Jonno

After reading thru the posts... I find myself relating to people like you. I myself find it baffling as to how can one claim allegiance to 2 rival clubs in the same country, same league... and same division. Ok... if 2 clubs from 2 different countries, that argument could make a good case.

I have been supporting my club since I was 8. And that was the era before their triumphs in the 80s. Why? Cos looking back then, Pool was winning practically every year... so I chose blue instead. Then later on in life I stared to learn more... ie. history... and I can say, there's a lot of it... and I find myself drawn more and more to this club. So, I have really been thru the ups and the almost downs (you know what I mean). I have had friends keep on asking me to change my allegiance to them more successful clubs... hah! I rather give em the finger. I will love my club till I am stone cold and stiff.

So I guess you guys can tell I am rather ancient. Anyway, I hate Pool but I do respect the fans. Same gos for any other fans... as long as they are real fans.

Just my 0.02....

i believe most people in this thread are annoyed with those who claim they are real fans but don't know the history of the club, mate. So far, the only ones flaming others out of nothing would be -Y- and ho nam. Are you talking about them?

-Y- and ho nam didn't stand for anything. We have questioned their stand and they can't come up with any good reason why they support 2 or more clubs. Granted, there may be justifiable reasons for doing so but as of yet, no one has presented it. As Jonno said, we're not putting down -Y- and ho nam because they support more than 1 club, but because they can't justify their support. I have posted questions in my previous post which are yet to be answered.

btw, you posting under a new ID makes me suspect you are actually -Y- or ho nam in disguise. And creating multiple IDs on this forum is against the rules.

I've been and yes, it's not the best of places to live. I stated earlier that what I typed was in response to a previous post so laugh outta your ass will ya? I don't expect you to do so now given it's pages back, but check on air_mood's argument with shah to get a better idea of what i said that.


This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jan 24 2008, 12:33 PM

sorry, u got the wrong guy. not me, not shah oso.

i think u know he (osaka09) didnt refer to me or shah. im not man utd fans. btw thanks osaka09.

i really hoping for some of u can discuss ths like a man. n stop scolding other ppl.

i dont think roma and milan is arch-enemy. i would say (milan n inter), (barca n real), (liv-ars-man u-che). these are the combination of arch-rival.

if u think im not real fan. its ok. i know my teams history, i buy their jersey (even not ori 1), n i watch every of their game (even it is so hard to see on astro) i watch delay. it is ok.

if u r really have good eye, u can see some of ths football lounge have 2 or 3 teams.

so, if u think u guys r real fan. tell me. how u can claimed u r real fan?

dang dude..

this is not to imposed others but only to particularly one person.. he claimed that we are plastic due to dual teams.. so this also means that others that support dual or even more were also considered as plastic

say whatever u want. plastic, paper bag or whatsoever. im milan. but i cannot resist not-to-love roma. like osaka09 said, we raised in differ b/groud. some of u have 1 team to cheer. & some of us, couple of teams.

this my statement. i want a healthy discussion but ths bad_mood guy out of nothing come and tembak me.

what is u guys contribution actually to-claimed urselves a real fan?

im really courius here.

well.. i bought MAN U jersey long time ago. and it's sharp. and i still can wear it.. but i don't (not anymore) now i am collecting all those chelsea genuine jersey .. i got it from the era of autoglass till now samsung mobile..

well i presume that buying team merchandise will at least can fund up the current stadium, training ground and facilities... it's contribution.. I oso got genuine BWIN jersey..

here are some list about plastic fans.. who has 2 or more teams.. well some say it's pathetic but here it goes...

sang karim

mono demon

abg pedro

Amad red devil's no 21

aw13

fd totti

mie


i am to lazy to look for others.. but let -y- have some word for this

oh thanks shah. those signatures tell everything. if u count it, 7 + 3 (me n shah n bro osaka09) = 10. i know some of them are otai. would u say 10 of us (actually more) were plastic?

im very courius here. what on earth u say u guys r real fans? i really love to hear ur statement. (other than not-having-two-teams)..

n pls, use proper language. we r civilised ppl.

This post has been edited by -Y-: Jan 24 2008, 09:10 PM

i guess this only refer to bad_mood ain't it.. such a party popper la

no? coz it's definitely not air_mood. anyone can see that...

i believe the discussion is going well. who isn't acting like a man? coz everyone who posts here is.

arch enemy or no arch enemy, we're just curious to know how you can support 2 clubs. as I asked earlier, when they play each other, who you support?

just because there are others who support 2 or more clubs, it doesn't make it better.

erm.... the whole discussion is about real fans? try reading through the posts before this.

yeah, i agree that those who support dual teams are plastic. Even the others. However, we're giving all you dual teams supporters a chance to defend yourself and explain why you support more than one team.

so explain yourself. when milan and roma play, which team you support?

it wud be impossible if Perak gonna face Spurs neither with Kedah facing Arsenal or Negri9 facing MU.

....well based to the siggy attached.

Sorry Abangpedro, it's just for some simple example..
i don't know why he want to flame all those dual supporters team.. The point he said was DUAL TEAM supporters..
if he ask me on why:
1) I love Chelsea; because it will always be my 1st team and i would be forever. we have the very beat in the world. John Terry, Didier Drogba, Ballack, Cech, Ricardo Carvalho and many more players..and remember most of them is captain of their International team
2) I love Milan; (AC Milan) because of their superior tactics and the beautiful of gameplay. They can organized their players very well. Milan's players most of them were very humble and apart of watching EPL games on both ESPN and Starsports, is there any other coverage games and reviews about Milan? No.. u have to dig it yourself.. Astro only provide 14% of their live telecast for us Serie A lovers. That's why i love Milan.. I bought their jerseys, i know it will support 0.002% of Milan team growth. No need to name famous player like Kaka where almost all football fans know him...The very best part, he's very humble even has won what that he deserve to be..

2)A - If it's happen that Chelsea will meet Milan at Final of Champions League. Of course i will cheer for Chelsea.. But i don't want to hate the rival the way i hate the rival in EPL. Even if Chelsea beat Milan i would want to analyzed the game more and not to say or turn my back on Milan.. Milan is Milan and nothing can change that.. Like u always treat having dual teams is like having two wifes> and i sincerely can't understand why you said that.. In EPL i hate hooligans just like you (u know who u are)

2)B - Why u think Kedah cannot meet Milan or Chelsea kah?? thats a narrow thinking way of an Adult.. Of course they can meet on the ground but the chances are very slim.. but rather than that, it's also one possibility.. Remember when Arsenal came here and took down Malaysian international? Or Chelsea came here also?? think about that also la adult..there's always friendly games in football. Football is global. u can see it everywhere. Just don't take it too deep. You'll ended up like maggots later.. the way you talk is somehow funny to me.. i also have many Man U fans but none of them acts like u.. he asked u, can u name me one Man U famous hooligan?

Please lay this topic to rest as the discussion has gone awry and rather childish. It's not doing anyone any favours. Go on supporting your single or as many teams as you like as long as ya happy.

I can understand that there might be possibilities that a EPL club could play any our local teams. But, I believe Abangpedro means that they don't play each other week in week out in the league... which is the bread and butter of any club... which is the point of the whole arguement ie "Supporting 2 clubs in the same league and division"...

Don't bother exyzt. Ignore. As I pointed out earlier, irregardless of what I say, you gotta give em credit, they make good comedians. A good pair at that. Like Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. Although it's more like Harry and Lloyd's Dumb and Dumber at the moment. And as I pointed out earlier, they are likely to change their story as well. It was 'sit back and enjoy' before and it's Chelski all the way now. So much for a proclaimed Milan fan then ehh??

no? coz it's definitely not air_mood. anyone can see that..

-anybody can wrote that. it obviously brother osaka09 is not often in real fan thread. some one just came n support us, and u said it is one of us? not everybody support what u guys think. but some of them agreed with us.

arch enemy or no arch enemy, we're just curious to know how you can support 2 clubs. as I asked earlier, when they play each other, who you support?

-i think i already said this before. the answer is milan.

yeah, i agree that those who support dual teams are plastic. Even the others. However, we're giving all you dual teams supporters a chance to defend yourself and explain why you support more than one team.
so explain yourself. when milan and roma play, which team you support?

-simple answer. milan. milan always come 1st. i wont sit back & just enjoy the game. if that what u think.

why dont u guys answer my question before? how do you guys claim ur a 'real' fan.

oh, btw, abangpedro hve 3 teams. nice one.

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Added on January 25, 2008, 7:16 pmagreed. im happy. but somebody dont.

This post has been edited by -Y-: Jan 25 2008, 07:16 PM

he's tired already... i didn't sense anything formal in his reply... u should respect other's opinion at the 1st place.. and u are the one who always count for a fight.. i still can remember how you pawn and flamed this Cesc fans.. i red it and it makes me irritated. and once i want u guys to calmed it down. u took it back on me.. who the hell u think you are hah?? remember only a scared dog bark that loud...

Can you lot stop letting fly the personal insults? It adds nothing to the debate and shows just how childish you really are... then again, you'd make perfect politicians

u and jonc somehow got some diplomatic ways of communication.. and he doesn't have any...