i see

Oh my, Belangsukawa diucapkan

MBDA confirm the delivery of VL MICA to RTA next year.


sauce:TAF

this is P-1.

maybe misquoted. P-3C kot...

This post has been edited by pcboss00: Nov 10 2017, 11:16 PM

Big load of cow dung in that comparison of MICA vs ESSM

Interesting. Seems RTAF are hoping to buy Meteor.

Unfortunately the standoff is escalating as a civilian was allegedly killed by the armed group and they are rejecting any negotiation

There was a case of arson and rapes recently too.. but this is a new height of the conflict

Iran Su 22 plane crashed, pilot killed.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20171111...utionary-guard/

Indonesian forces prepare to storm Papua villages held by rebels



Indonesian security forces in the eastern province of Papua are preparing to storm five villages that they say are being held by an armed rebel group, police officials said on Saturday.

JAKARTA: Indonesian security forces in the eastern province of Papua are preparing to storm five villages that they say are being held by an armed rebel group, police officials said on Saturday.



Around 200 police and military personnel have been deployed and are awaiting orders to secure the area, where an armed separatist group linked to the Free Papua Movement (OPM) is preventing about 1,000 people from leaving an area near a giant copper mine, operated by the American miner Freeport-McMoRan Inc.

"Today the joint police and military forces have occupied various posts to be able to take action," said Papua police spokesman, Suryadi Diaz.

"They will be taken dead or alive," he said of the around 100 rebels that police say have tortured and abused the villagers since taking over the area several days ago.

A state of emergency has been declared in the area and at least 300 additional security forces have been deployed to the area of the province after a string of shootings since Aug. 17 that killed one police officer and wounded six.

The rebel group, the West Papua National Liberation Army (TPN-OPM), on Friday denied occupying villages near the mine, but said it was "at war" with the police, military, and Freeport.



Papua has had a long-running and sometimes violent separatist movement since it was incorporated into Indonesia after a widely criticised U.N.-backed referendum in 1969.

President Joko Widodo has sought to ease tension in the two provinces by stepping up investment, freeing political prisoners and addressing human rights concerns. This is the first escalation of violence during his term.



Freeport's Grasberg mine has been dogged by security concerns for decades due to a low-level conflict waged by pro-independence rebels in Papua. Between 2009 and 2015, shootings within the mine project area killed 20 people and wounded 59.

More recently, Freeport, the world's largest publicly listed copper producer, has been grappling with labour problems at Grasberg and a dispute with the Indonesian government over rights to the mine.

(Reporting by Agustinus Beo Da Costa; Writing by Kanupriya Kapoor; Editing by Ros Russell)
Source: Reuters
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapa...-rebels-9397872

Papua rebels' retreats to Freeport





Authorities in Indonesia's eastern province of Papua are delivering food and aid to villages where security forces say an armed rebel group has blocked residents' movement, as police and military surround the area, a police official said on Sunday.

Police say a group linked to the Free Papua Movement (OPM) is preventing about 1,000 people from leaving five villages near a giant copper mine operated by the American miner Freeport-McMoRan Inc.

"We continue to try a persuasive approach and dialogue," said Viktor Mackbon, police chief of the Mimika area, where the villages are located. Talks with the group would be conducted through public and religious figures in the region, he added.



Officials delivered two truckloads of rice, instant noodles, and toiletries for the villagers.

"Their access to these goods is not yet normal, so we must provide help," said Mackbon, adding that the rebel group had not tried to disrupt the supply effort.
Officials on Saturday said about 200 police and military personnel had been deployed in preparation for orders to secure the area by force, if necessary.


Reuters could not immediately reach members of the rebel group, the West Papua National Liberation Army (TPN-OPM), to seek comment.
On Friday, the group denied occupying villages near the mine, but said it was "at war" with the police, military, and Freeport.

A state of emergency has been declared in the area and security stepped up after a string of shootings since Aug. 17 that killed one police officer and wounded six.
Papua has had a long-running, and sometimes violent, separatist movement since it was incorporated into Indonesia after a widely criticised U.N.-backed referendum in 1969.
The incident is the first escalation of violence during the term of President Joko Widodo, who has sought to ease tension in the region by stepping up investment, freeing political prisoners and tackling human rights concerns.



Freeport's Grasberg mine has been dogged by security concerns for decades over the low-level conflict waged by the rebels. Between 2009 and 2015, shootings within the mine project area killed 20 people and wounded 59. More recently, Freeport, the world's largest publicly listed copper producer, has been grappling with labour problems at Grasberg and a mine rights dispute with Indonesia.

(Reporting by Agustinus Beo Da Costa; Writing by Kanupriya Kapoor; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)

Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapa...reeport-9399032

Propaganda: Rakyat Papua yang Pernah "Tersesat dalam TPN/OPM" Telah Kembali Kepada Ibu Pertiwi

Mari kita semua mendoakan dan merangkul saudara-saudara kita yang lain yang masih tersesat di Papua agar cepat sadar untuk membangun Papua lebih baik. Bersama bingkai Negara Kesatuan Republik Indonesia, Irian Jaya - Papua seharusnya telah merdeka lama bersama lahirnya Bangsa Indonesia karena penjajah Belanda kala itu ingin mencengkeram lebih lama di Tanah Nusantara.

Irian Jaya baru terbebaskan lewat "Operasi Militer Trikora" yang dicanangkan oleh Bung Karno 19 Desember 1961 di Yogyakarta. Karena Belanda "takut" memaksanya keluar dari Papaua, sebelum Belanda keluar dari wilayah Nusantara sempat membuat negara boneka di Irian Barat - Papua pada tanggal 1 Desember 1961. Lewat perjuangan Trikora wilayah Irian Barat kemudian diserahkan kembali pada Ibu Pertiwi pada tahun 1969 oleh PBB setelah lewat Pepera (penentuan pendapat rakyat/jajak pendapat). Ada dan tidaknya Pepera sebenarnya Irian Jaya - Papua merupakan bagian sah dari NKRI, Pepera difasilitasi hanya untuk menyelamatkan muka Belanda di fora Internasional. Rakyat Papua senasib sepenanggungan dengan daerah lain di Indonesia dari Sabang sampai Merauke. MERDEKA



This post has been edited by Fat & Fluffy: Nov 12 2017, 02:57 PM

Iraqi army helicopter crash kills seven, military says





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Why do you call this propaganda?

So, do you think it's a lie?

clearly there's a separatist movement however masking full facts to create bias perception is what's shown... it is not a lie but its not whole truth either...

How strong is this group in term of firepower?
Similar to GAM?

It's not intended to mask full facts and create a bias. Many former OPM members surrendered and get amnesty.

The government never says that OPM is completely eradicated, but it is a fact that many have surrendered.

So, what to do? Not reporting it completely?


Perhaps a few thousands....but their numbers are declining

professional journalism requires the publishing of facts from all perspective and provide a neutral narration... by reporting partially with an intended purpose... that's propaganda...

That's PNG Army lah, OPM also use hoax as propaganda, LMAO

and you using picture from FWP as fact and not propaganda? look at those PNG Army
did you know OPM not as united as it seems, since West Papua itself is not homogenous in term of ethnicity and tribe? there's many faction within OPM, some just pure economic motivated, some pursuing real independence and others just using situation for their own personal gain.

PNGDF, for comparison

look at their camo and green barret

Like it or not, I'd say this practice probably represents 99% of the media nowadays. Everybody has an agenda.