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nufix
post Oct 3 2017, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 3 2017, 07:54 AM)
Wah, so many exposed flat surfaces. Perfect impact points for anti-tank projectiles. 

That frontal armor, in particular, is very disturbing to me.laugh.gif
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Ahh love it whenever a military "expert" talks. Dont wanna have flat surface go build alien ship la (even that thing got flat surface when seen from uptop).
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post Oct 3 2017, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(nufix @ Oct 3 2017, 08:23 AM)
Ahh love it whenever a military "expert" talks. Dont wanna have flat surface go build alien ship la (even that thing got flat surface when seen from uptop).
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One word, slant armor. Look it up, boi.

Basic tank design is minimizing hull exposure. The more you show, the more stuff you're giving the enemy to aim at.


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SUSKLboy92
post Oct 3 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 3 2017, 07:54 AM)
Wah, so many exposed flat surfaces. Perfect impact points for anti-tank projectiles. 

That frontal armor, in particular, is very disturbing to me.laugh.gif
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What IS its armor rating anyway?

Picture looks so edited
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post Oct 3 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 3 2017, 08:30 AM)
What IS its armor rating anyway?

Picture looks so edited
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STANAG 5. The turret is the new Cockerill 3000 Series.

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FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank hull during construction. Part of the add-on armor can be seen already installed at the rear of the tank:

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nufix
post Oct 3 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 3 2017, 08:26 AM)
One word, slant armor. Look it up, boi.

Basic tank design is minimizing hull exposure. The more you show, the more stuff you're giving the enemy to aim at.
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Boi you gotta check your eyes again, the only thing that isnt sloped from that Med tank is its two sides, the front side is sloped downwards while the upper position is even more sloped. As per defenition, sloped armor is anything that is not 90 degree.

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P.S: "Slant armor" is one term, not necessarily one word tho smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2017, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Oct 1 2017, 03:17 PM)

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how to carry papadam as MRE ?
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post Oct 3 2017, 02:09 PM

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Exercise Panzer Strike 2017.

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CDF LG Lim had front row seats to the inaugural company live-firing on 29 Sep at Ex Panzer Strike 2017, and praised the NSmen tankees for their professionalism. He said: “I was very impressed by their sharp gunnery skills during the live-firing. These NSmen don’t do this on a day-to-day basis; and to be able to acquire that level of capabilities is an achievement.”

Held in Oberlausitz Military Training Area, Germany, from 19 Sep to 1 Oct, Exercise Panzer Strike 2017 gave the NS armour unit a good opportunity to conduct both platoon and company live-firing, as well as practise their command and control, and test out different manoeuvres.


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post Oct 3 2017, 03:30 PM

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Germany, Netherlands to develop integrated joint Air-Defence System

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The Luftwaffe's Flugabwehrraketengruppe (Surface-to-Air Missile Group or SAM-Group) 61 will be subordinated to the Dutch Ground Based Air Defence Command in Vredepeel, the Netherlands, at the end of August, the German Air Force announced on 14 August.

The step is part of Project Apollo, under which Germany and the Netherlands will co-operate on ground based air defence. The project consists of six different colour-coded areas of co-operation, which are linked.

The subordination of the Luftwaffe's SAM-Group 61 to the Dutch Ground Based Air Defence Command is taking place under Green Apollo, which aims to form a bi-national task force for short- and very short-range air defence. An additional aim of this sub-project is to set up a competence centre in Vredepeel for the further development of the task force's capabilities.

Purple Apollo is developing a bi-national command capability, which includes networking communications and data exchange.

Black Apollo is working on common doctrine, concepts, and standards. The sub-project has developed standard operating procedures, which are being tested and further developed through various exercises.

Red Apollo foresees setting up a Bi-national Air & Missile Defence Academy using existing facilities in Germany, the Netherlands, and the United States. New courses are being developed, the first of which was the Senior Leadership Academic Course held in parallel with Tactical Firing 2016 at the NATO Missile Firing Installation (NAMFI) on Crete. It will be followed by the second course this year.

The two framework nations are planning joint ground based air defence projects and procurement under the Blue Apollo sub-project. The Luftwaffe sees the possibility of cost-saving synergies in joint procurement. The sub-project is considering the possible joint procurement of a counter-rocket, artillery, mortar (C-RAM), and short range air defence system.

Yellow Apollo is setting up a bi-national air and missile defence task force, which reached an initial capability in 2016 on Crete, with the ultimate aim of a full operational capability for a task force that could be offered to NATO.

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Russian Northern fleet performs amphibious drills in Arctic waters



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QUOTE(bereev @ Oct 3 2017, 03:20 PM)
how to carry papadam as MRE ?
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courtesy of camp cook
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post Oct 3 2017, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Oct 3 2017, 03:58 PM)
courtesy of camp cook
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look like canned papadam, the EP papadam is just the ready mixed ingredient ready to cook become crispy one ?
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post Oct 3 2017, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Oct 3 2017, 04:15 PM)
look like canned papadam, the EP papadam is just the ready mixed ingredient ready to cook become crispy one ? 
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WTF, have you ever actually seen an uncooked papadam? laugh.gif

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Fat & Fluffy
post Oct 3 2017, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Oct 3 2017, 06:15 PM)
look like canned papadam, the EP papadam is just the ready mixed ingredient ready to cook become crispy one ? 
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canned papadam? is there such a thing? lol...

usually it is fried but being in middle east it is hard to fry with a big wok of oil, so sometimes they try to roast but often it becomes flaccid... anyway that one is a non standard meal..
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post Oct 3 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 3 2017, 08:54 AM)
Part of the add-on armor can be seen already installed at the rear of the tank:
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err.. no, that is just a section of its engine hull
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post Oct 3 2017, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 3 2017, 07:54 AM)
Wah, so many exposed flat surfaces. Perfect impact points for anti-tank projectiles. 
That frontal armor, in particular, is very disturbing to me.laugh.gif
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what u see here is mostly spaced armor

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QUOTE(far_lee @ Oct 3 2017, 08:30 PM)
supermarket sell them in plastic bags mah......doesn't mean you can't canned it, just not cheaper biggrin.gif
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just like canning candy floss biggrin.gif
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post Oct 3 2017, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 3 2017, 06:30 PM)
err.. no, that is just a section of its engine hull
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Ah yes my bad. After seeing the screenshot.
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post Oct 3 2017, 11:43 PM

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More pics of TNI 72nd Anniversary Rehearsal. Credit to Basin Ilan Kurumu.

FNSS/Pindad Medium Tank:

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Sherpa MPCV:

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BTR-4M:

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More pics: http://www.bik.gov.tr/endonezyada-ulusal-s...u-hazirliklari/
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post Oct 3 2017, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Oct 3 2017, 04:15 PM)
look like canned papadam, the EP papadam is just the ready mixed ingredient ready to cook become crispy one ? 
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CANNED PAPPADAM?! laugh.gif

Those round things are not cans, they are paper packages of uncooked pappadams. The uncooked papadam look like below pic, round thin pieces of dough about the square area of a small tuna can and the texture of chapati.

Its actually super easy to cook over open flame, technically just put it on a gas ring will do. I am paranoid over getting gas in my food tho so I do it on a pan. All that happens is that it gets blistered and crunchy, or puffed up, within a minute or so.

Doesn't take much to keep in stock as Class B rations and little effort to cook, certainly would be a cheap morale boost thumbup.gif

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post Oct 3 2017, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 3 2017, 11:43 PM)

Sherpa MPCV:

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Is that Sadral on the Sherpas?

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