the problem is dari jadi kutu baik suruh masuk polis/tentera
at least that is what most Malay mother bebel at their son/daughter

ok joke aside
when I got to mindef, I can actually see Chinese and Indian officer
but for Chinese and Indian in other ranks, it's a dying breed indeed
bukan kata tak ada langsung, tetapi memang jarang aku nak jumpa

newfags nons not joining ATM anymore

since nufags

Indonesia today took first batch delivery of the AH-64E Apache Guardian Attack Helicopters. Credit to military_buzz.



This post has been edited by azriel: Dec 19 2017, 12:02 AM

Polish MiG-29 fighter jet crashed near Minsk Mazowiecki





[sos]

Btw, can you elaborate more on the bolded part
since I can give comparison from my father's time and right now directly

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Dec 19 2017, 06:50 AM

Traditional chinese people even have a saying, "good iron don't get made into nails, good men don't make soldiers".

Take that however you want.

People complain why so little non-malay top military officers, but with so little non-malay recruits from lower ranks in the first place to promote from, what do people actually expect? Join straightaway become top officer?


This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Dec 19 2017, 07:53 AM

I dunno specifics as I rarely see my relatives and, well, its just old man kopitiam talk

But as I understand it, the salary and benefits such as housing, education, allowances etc were better then relative to what was available in the private sector at the time. But now the private sector is much more attractive.

Which is a problem for militaries worldwide, not just Msia.

No joke 1 of my good friends really damn pissed about this

As an auditor in KL he is in an excellent profession at the forefront of developing Msian industry with great career prospects in the finance world

But (according to him) his family would rather he join the army or become cikgu or become ustaz, because in the old kampung mindset these are the respectable professions

put them in Batam can play with SG

they want all become top officer

superiority

kiasu

something like that

this is the truth that many 1'' eternal complainers didnt want to consider

As a 17 year old, joining the forces allowed me to climb the economic ladder by a couple of notches, got a diploma and an MBA for free and got the chance to travel the world, basic pay was pretty shit but I was able to do some pretty cool stuff and work with the best people

ATM pay/benefits for LLP are not that much and they don't attract the best people or be able to do cool stuff all that much.not much of a reason to join especially for a minority. If I was African American in the 1950s, I wouldn't join the US army either

Nak tambah LLP senang je, buat cara US;short-term contracts renewed setiap 4-8 tahun.xderla yang gemuk babi atau yang tua2 badan dah rosak dapat stay

This post has been edited by heavyduty: Dec 19 2017, 11:55 AM

Doesn't military lifestyle itself discourage spending of wages? As an outsider looking in, it seems pretty much anything a soldier, especially single low-ranking soldiers, necessities in life is provided for by the military (food, clothes, housing...). Plus the tough daily routine gives so little free time or energy left to go lepak2 or something like that.

Honest question: how does a soldier spend his wages in comparison to a civilian, actually? To me, the general feeling is it's as if a soldier won't get much free time or actually need to spend that much money on necessities anyway.

US Navy chief says forces in Asia may be reinforced with warships from the eastern Pacific



YOKOSUKA: The U.S. Navy's top officer on Tuesday (Dec 19) said that vessels from the eastern Pacific could be brought forward to reinforce U.S. naval power in Asia as Washington contends with increased threats in the region and accidents that have weakened its maritime force.

"We will continue to assure that we meet all of our missions here in the Asia Pacific area. It could be something coming forward from Third Fleet or something like that to meet those requirements," Chief of U.S. Naval Operations Admiral John Richardson said at a briefing aboard the USS Ronald Reagan carrier in Japan.

He declined to say when or how many ships could be transferred.

The growing threat posed by North Korea's ballistic missile and nuclear weapon advances coupled with operations to counter China's increasing military might in the South China Sea and other parts of Asia is putting an increased burden on the U.S. Seventh Fleet.

That added pressure on crews has been blamed for contributing to a series of accidents involving naval vessels this year including collisions by two destroyers with merchant ships that killed 17 U.S. sailors.



In August the USS John S.McCain guided missile destroyer was struck by a merchant ship near Singapore, while its sister ship, the Fitzgerald, almost sank off the coast of Japan in June after colliding with a Philippine container ship.

Richardson spoke after U.S. President Donald Trump unveiled a new national security strategy based on his "America First" vision that singled out China and Russia as "revisionist powers." For its part, China is attempting to revise the global status quo by its aggression in the South China Sea, a U.S. official said.

Beijing is building military bases there on manmade islands in waters claimed by other nations.

"One can only draw certain conclusion about what are the intentions of the Chinese with respect to those islands. We will respond as we have always done, which is that we are going to continue to be present down there," Richardson said.



For now, he said, North Korea was the "most urgent" task for the U.S. Navy in Asia as it became "more and more capable" with every new missile test. The latest ballistic missile tested on Nov 29 reached an altitude of more than 4,000km (2485.48 miles), giving it enough-range, Pyongyang claims, to hit major U.S. cities including Washington D.C.

Richardson said his task in 2018 is to build a navy "more lethal" and "dangerous" to potential U.S. foes.

"There is a near unanimous consensus that we need more naval power than we have now," he said.

Source: Reuters

HMS Queen Elizabeth found to have significant leaks during sea trials, may cost millions of Pounds to repair



Launched just weeks ago, the Royal Navy’s new £3.1billion aircraft carrier has a ‘significant’ defect – and could cost millions to repair. Top brass on the HMS Queen Elizabeth said the crew found the fault – which affects an inflatable seal around one of the propeller shafts – during sea trials.

It is now causing the carrier to take on 200 litres of water every hour. The UK’s largest warship, which is currently in Portsmouth, may have to be moved to a dry dock for repairs. Insiders blamed the leak on Aircraft Carrier Alliance (ACA), the partnership that built the vessel.

A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: ‘An issue with a shaft seal has been identified during HMS Queen Elizabeth’s sea trials; this is scheduled for repair while she is alongside at Portsmouth.

‘It does not prevent her from sailing again and her sea trials programme will not be affected.’ An ACA spokesman told The Sun: ‘It is normal practice for a volume of work and defect resolution to continue following vessel acceptance.’



Lucky found out during trials already. If not...
Then again, this is the point of sea trials, right?

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Dec 19 2017, 02:31 PM

UK National Security Adviser bombshell: No more money will be spent to protect the UK



Theresa May's national security adviser last night suggested there would be no new money to protect the country despite his alarming warnings of the soaring threats facing the UK.
Mark Sedwill said the threat from Russia was worse than ever imagined as he compared the effect of cyber-attacks on the UK to bombing raids during World War 2.

Giving evidence to a parliamentary inquiry, he also warned the terrorist threat had 'diversified and dispersed', partly because of the military success in Iraq and Syria. But despite the rising threats, he suggested a crucial ongoing review of Britain's security and defence capability would not result in any more cash for the military and spies. This prompted suggestions from MPs that there would be a 'trading-off' of some defence capabilities in which ships would be scrapped to meet other more modern threats such as cyber.

MPs and Lords responded by telling him the Government needed to 'wake up' to the 'enormous scale' of the threats facing Britain and not underestimate an assertive Russia. Mr Sedwill is carrying out a wide-ranging review examining the state of UK defences, due to be published early next year. Yesterday he admitted for the first time it was a 'fiscally neutral exercise'.

'This exercise is looking at how we can make best use of the resources available to us now against the threat picture', he said.

The review has prompted concerns from former military chiefs that Britain's armed forces could be 'hollowed out' to enable the UK to focus on more 'modern' threats such as cyber.

Mr Sedwill hinted that the UK could be forced to rely on its allies to fight future wars, saying: 'One of the capabilities the Russians don't have is allies.'He said: 'If you put together the British, French and German defence budgets… it is about twice the Russian defence budget. 'We can't just compare to our own historic experience.'

Earlier this month it emerged French military chiefs were drawing up plans to let the Royal Marines borrow their warships if UK vessels are axed.

His comments came as ministers are deciding whether to scrap the navy's amphibious landing fleet to help plug a £20billion funding black hole.



British Armed forces go bye bye

even the best-built ships, be she flying the white or red ensigns, suffer from the dastard shaft seal leaks.

This grass fire started on CFB Suffield in southeastern Alberta on Sept. 11, 2017, then spread beyond the military base. It burned an estimated 36,500 hectares — nearly half the size of Calgary. (Cam Klatt )

160 cattle killed, cropland destroyed but no compensation yet for farmers months after military started fire

Ivan Schlaht says there isn't enough money "in God's green Earth" to cover his losses from a fire that started on CFB Suffield in southeastern Alberta and spread to a nearby pasture, where his 98 cattle were killed.

He's just one of the ranchers and farmers still awaiting compensation months after the fire burned an estimated 36,500 hectares — nearly half the size of Calgary — and killed at least 160 cows, according to the Special Areas Board, the rural municipality near the base.

The fire started on Sept. 11 when soldiers were blowing up unexploded ordnance on the base, which is the largest military training facility in Canada.

The grass fire killed at least 160 cows, according to the Special Areas Board, the rural municipality near the base. (Swenson family)

A fire ban across most of southern Alberta was in place at the time and the temperature was at least 32 C with moderate west winds.

About 6,500 hectares of the affected land were outside the training area, and the flames that spread off the base caused "tragic" results, the commander at CFB Suffield has admitted.

"I'm trying to get a handle on what a cow that was burnt, that suffered.… I don't know. I can't get a handle on a price for something like that," said Schlaht.

He said it was one of the grossest things he has ever seen.

Burned and dead cattle were scattered along blackened hillsides in a rural municipality officially known as Special Areas No. 2, southwest of the tiny community of Bindloss — and near the northeast corner of the military base.

The day after the fire, about 20 cattle were still alive but clearly suffering from injuries sustained in the blaze. Schlaht said one of his friends put the animals down for him.

"A million dollars still wouldn't cover what I lost because of the anguish the cattle and myself went through," said Schlaht.

Losses mounting

Daryl Swenson said the fire scorched more than 500 hectares of his grass and crop land. He has borrowed at least $60,000 to replenish some of the winter feed that was lost and for materials to start rebuilding the estimated 10 kilometres of fence that was destroyed.

Swenson was not sure how much he would have to spend to repair all the damage because the fire stripped away the grass and crop and left the soil in some places exposed. He said the soil has blown off in some areas.

"Top soil is what everything grows on, it's the most valuable resource on the farm. Without top soil, you have nothing."

'Not good neighbours at all'
Swenson said people are fed up with the fires that are sparked during training exercises on the base, which stretches across 2,700 square kilometres of prairie, and are growing impatient waiting for attitudes to change.

"In the past they have not been good neighbours at all," said Swenson.

Morley Sarvis' burned farm house
The concrete steps that led to the front door of Morley Sarvis's home near Bindloss, Alta. The home and several outbuildings were destroyed in the Sept. 11 grass fire.

Lt.-Col. Mike Onieu said he personally apologized to people affected by the fire in September and he knows the compensation process is not happening quickly enough.

"It's not a fast process and it does take time," said Onieu.

"It creates a huge amount of difficulty for people who are trying to pay their bills, get their feed for the season, replace their livestock. Yes, that is difficult."

CFB Suffield accepts responsibility for grass fire that ranchers believe killed their cattle
Swenson hopes to see a cheque in the next few months.

"If we aren't seeing anything by then, then we're going to start looking at different actions I guess, be it legal or whatever."

The fire scorched about 4,200 hectares on the Remount community pasture, part of the rural municipality known as Special Areas. The local government stands to lose an estimated $45,000 in lost grazing revenue next year, according to Jordon Christianson, chair of the Special Areas board.

"It's absolutely devastating to see these things roll through."

The area had been used by more than 900 head of cattle, and ranchers will have to find other areas to graze their cattle.

"It's never good to have uncertainly when you're a producer whose livelihood depends on these resources," said Miller.

CFB Suffield headquarters
The base commander at CFB Suffield plans a briefing with residents affected by the grass fire that started on the base and spread to nearby grass and crop land. Onieu said the meeting will be held sometime in January. (Bryan Labby/CBC )

Swenson credited Onieu and other members of the military for meeting with him and other farmers following the fire, but expressed disappointment that the military has yet to send out an insurance adjuster to help calculate their losses.

"We've all had a lot of expenses that a lot of us are paying interest on. So we are out that money for that much time. The sooner the better he's out here."

Fire guard 'very unlikely' for 2018
Nearby residents have been pushing for a fire guard to be built around some sections of the base's perimeter. Onieu said that while it is a priority for him, it won't be in place next year.

CFB Suffield fire at Sarvis property
Flames from an out-of-control grass fire are seen moments before they consumed a barn, several outbuildings and Sarvis's home. (Swenson family )

He said they have to treat the area where they want to put the fire guard as a mine field.

"If it wasn't a live fire range, we could simply just plow the ground from time to time."

Onieu said the first step is to do a clearance operation to ensure the area does not contain unexploded ammunition, such as bombs, grenades, mortar rounds or artillery shells — but it's not clear when that work will start.

Onieu said it's "very unlikely" the guard will be in place in 2018.

Onieu said he has taken over sole authority when approving "fire-producing activities" on the base. He said a firefighter will be hired during "critical fire prone periods of the year," and neighbouring professional and volunteer firefighters may be trained about the hazards of fires on the base. That could allow them access to the base to help fight fires.

The military's own investigation into the fire, a board of inquiry, was ordered by the 3rd Canadian Division commander, Brig-Gen. Trevor Cadieu. Property owners met individually with members of the board following the fire.

Onieu said the base plans to host a "technical briefing" with property owners to discuss some of the findings and possible recommendations in January, although an exact date has not been set.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/160-...-fire-1.4447359



RIP cows..

Not really that busy actually, paling lewat habis 5.30pm for a normal routine day and takyah hadap jem nak balik bilik

For a 17 year old, godaan besar.ada yang beli kereta la motor la,setiap malam makan besar sebab first time dapat gaji lol.ada yang setiap malam pergi mabuk.these are mostly kids baru keluar kampung and first time Ada duit memang beli benda mengarut,sebab tu time keluar military ramai bankrap, money management x reti

Girls are also a problem, they know military folks are stupid and have money.they specifically target younger military guys;ajak kahwin and lepas tu sedut kering.ada yang balik deployment savings account tinggal 10 bucks, anak2 bini bawak lari (regular occurrence)

For myself, I lived off-base and rental was crazy high.equipment pun banyak beli sendiri because issued ones are very bad

Kalau jenis pandai memang time keluar duit dapat simpan banyak, reality not many are smart and blow their money every month

eh Andi

what happened to that sexy superior of yours tu?
tetiba pulak teringat kat dia