Shhh... I really am....

These forums exist purely for my amusement!

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I'm of the belief that there is no righteous good guy in this world. As long as there is a different view to an opinion, it stands to reason that the original person may not be right or good. I'm pretty sure I ticked people off too.

I never claim that what you stated didn't have an ounce of truth in it. Most of the time, I'm not in a position to say otherwise, whether to you or anyone else.

Glorified badass? Yep, somehow it suits you, and even more after you posted that link. You enjoy being the badboy, don't you?

As for the arrogance bit, it still might be a good idea to tone it down. I can understand when reading something can make people shake their heads but being overconfident can lead to one making mistakes/saying something that you might regret later (big if I'm sure). Whether to you or sets84. Especially when the name-calling starts. Aiya.

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Anyway, back to Black Morass. Pug a hunter and a prot tank warrior yesterday. Hmm...the hunter seemed to spend more time healing his pet than actual DPS. And reading about heartfang's post, does a hunter's DPS come from his range weapon or from his pet? I was under the assumption that a hunter's DPS is mostly contributed by his weapon, rather than the pet and that it's the same for locks and mages.

Another thing, feign death. *shudder* Is it just me or do hunters like to do that to switch aggro to their pet? Because most of the time when they do that, the casters and healer gets aggro instead. Grrr... Not to mention not being able to drink.

Last few rifts. We noticed that the adds now suddenly change aggro from medievh to us, even when we're not taking them down. Not sure whether this is something new or not. They're running to Medievh and suddenly just turn around and start whacking us. Different compared to earlier rifts compared to rift 12.

Comments anyone?

damn straight. pass me some will ya?

kid, xiaonsin : sigh. u 2 ah. ok, one buy coach, another one buy popcorn. then we all sit together and watch.

very very very very slow day at work....nothing to do at all


oh yea something to add, i went bm yesterday the second boss does wing buffet thats why your tank lost aggro ^^

feign death is usually used to clear aggro and get out of combat to drink/swap gear.

pet dps er... not really sure

adds dont usually aggro unless you go hit them

or not concentrating. could be that too.

for hunter yes. but if all aggro is on the caster instead, gg. no time to drink even.

same here. somehow, we're still getting them. i wonder whether it's something to do with the beacon. if beacon expires and the adds are still up, then adds run back to us with aggro. aiyaya.

i never claim you didnt believe me or whatever, nor do i really care
dont worry bout it too much

for the arrogance part, it will be up to others to decide for me, the more shit they have with me, the more shit ill toss back. its all 'lolinternetz' in play right here, nothing serious, if they take it too seriously, its their call, their loss.

and no, i dont usually resort to name callings, if you meant this: <3
its actually a heart sign
although for general asian mmo's its the middle finger instead. so misunderstanding could occur but i believe if you've played WoW for some time you would know.

the hunter should be ultilizing misdirections occassionaly on the mt and have him soak some add dmg, either that or aggro ping pong with pet/himself. healer's healing does help but usually not too much are needed, just general hots or a quick flash or gheal when its really low. if the hunter spends too much time to heal pet, he loses his dps, and his purpose in the group is dps'ing.

while it is true that a hunter's dps comes from the hunter itself and the pet is just a support, it may not be the case if said hunter is BM spec.

for the adds not going to medivh part, it could be something that generates strong global aggro, like the fire elemental from shamans for example.(not sure why or how, but even when the elemental isnt hitting the adds, the adds still go for the shaman) things like say mass dispel, demo shout, or aoe effects that tags the adds could contribute in this too.

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Added on April 9, 2007, 11:20 amthen yes, its the beacon, the adds are tagged and you guys will get aggro.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 9 2007, 11:20 AM

one thing that i did notice that after getting out of aggro, if i cast HoT on someone, i drink, he goes and kills some other adds, and then i stop drinking.

only happens when i'm standing next to him though. is that normal? bleargh.

dont need to stand next to him, if you hot a person engaging add ur added into aggro list. its healing global aggro

heh, not always. in certain instances only. not all.

80% of my working time is spent surfing around websites... usually i have nothing to do unless the engineers call me

ok, your turn to entertain us. say something.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 9 2007, 02:19 PM

what do you want me to say

lol btw quat .. if u have a mage n u go play a rogue ur dumb .. lol
the most less demand and useless class for now ...

sap = not always work
get hit = pain in ass
cant kite cause no range
high dmg ? maybe one point for it lol

any instance that i start .. usually wont have a rogue .. unless that instance is a joke .. like non heroic instances ...
heroics usually hard with rogue cause thier cc is not so CC at all ..
well if u dont mind wiping 4-5times before u get to last boss then its okay heh


i usually expect clean run ..

I know this is not directed at me but that's a bit condescending don't you think?

I've played a hunter and mage to 60, priest which i'm levelling as an alt now to 66 and the warrior i have to 70 which is the character i have been playing for the last year and a half. Of all the other ezmode classes, I've stuck with my warrior which has been hit with a nerfbat almost continuously since our love patch ages ago - and you know why? Because I enjoy the gameplay.

Your attitude sucks because you'd rather suggest someone reroll instead of learning to play (and i mean this in a good way). I party with a rogue quite often and most of the time my instances go well, because we know how to play.

Rogues get some loving in the next patch and we'll see what happens then.

So LOL Nub to you

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if you tell me this pre 2.0 or pre TBC, i will FULLY agree with you. however, post 2.0 especially post TBC, rogues are definately a lot better in doing anything. hell, even pre TBC/2.0, rogues are pretty much "fine" in pve, its pvp in general that they are getting their ass handed.

Sap right now "always work" in pvp, in pve, it always worked, nothing has been change. just need the rogue to actually land the sap. chances of the rogue missing the sap is low unless his +hit is low (if thats the case his dmg will be low anyways and he would be mostly useless)

and theres many methods to prevent getting hit, be it stuns, eva, clos. if anything, an incoming patch will reduce damage taken by melee dps by simply reducing the aoe dmg done to melee, nerfing cleaving attacks etc etc. so not really much of an issue. and if the rogue is specced ass, he got QR, 20% additional heals are always welcomed by any healers. (priests with around 1.4-1.6k +heals can gheal crit me for over 10k++)

for kiting, you WILL be surprised, deadly throw and crippling poisons = lol.
should've seen me solo gay kiting elites to oblivion with perfect health (those said elites need 2-3 ppl to fight and definately need healer)

and at the end of the day, till this end, pre/post 2.0 or tbc, we are still the highest dmg'ing class in game in terms of pve/consistant/endurance fights.

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Added on April 9, 2007, 5:27 pmrogues already got enough loving, im already surprised we arent being nerfbatted to be honest

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 9 2007, 05:27 PM

TBC is just harsh on players who are not able to play their class.

although these days, i seldom see rogues actually. i mostly meet other classes. not sure if that's a good sign or not.

not to say rogue no good<at least i nvr win a GOOD rogue n duel>.. but if i form a team to heroic, with limited 5 man, a tank a healer a mage cc, warlock ss hs, as 1 left to choose on melee im preferable druid.. off heal + innervate.. wel they doing no bad damage as well .. off healer off tanker cum brez. aww aww aww

This post has been edited by Gladys: Apr 9 2007, 06:10 PM

QFT.

Rogues especially because they tend to be fragile and have to close with those mega AOE, 360deg cleaving bosses to actually do any real DPS. Numbers of rogues dropped dramatically on my server - my own guild currently has 2 raiding rogues from 8 pre-TBC but those two were our best anyway and were always way ahead on the damage meters from way back to before TBC. The rest of them retired or switched to other classes.

heh there were too many rogues around anyway, and TBC just caused the not so-skilled to fade away. I was an average-skill rogue pre-TBC but now i find I completely suck in instances and have semi-retired my rogue to go back to my original warrior toon.

This post has been edited by limsk: Apr 9 2007, 06:37 PM