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Gladys
post Apr 5 2007, 02:47 PM

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yes it happend.. but it doesnt come that 'often' so i mean dw abt the crit. my fren fire mage pop once b4 coe ap dadada 10k..

as a priest, i nvr dispell the healing debuff, <can dispell?? rolleyes.gif > warr kite it when he got 6/+ , the rest of them nvr bother spell steal or wateva just full out..leave the adds clear later or drop 1 dragon.. time break after boss fight is just too long..

imo a warr if can understand the class balance, kno when to taunt(do t b4 it happen) n sheild , its pretty good already..

bah bah black moras.. tell me more abt GL... mt17k hp healer still fail to keep him up with high king doh.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 5 2007, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 5 2007, 02:31 PM)
see my successful trade list tongue.gif

jy14 if ur lazy

and my advice for now, is wait for p190, now i also a bit regret cuz few days ago farking antec released p182 revision  vmad.gif
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wrong thread?

EDIT : bleargh. didn't read properly. mebad.

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post Apr 5 2007, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 5 2007, 02:47 PM)
as a priest, i nvr dispell the healing debuff, <can dispell?? rolleyes.gif > warr kite it when he got 6/+ , the rest of them nvr bother spell steal or wateva just full out..leave the adds clear later or drop 1 dragon.. time break after boss fight is just too long..
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It's not the tank you're dispelling, it's the haste buff on temporus! takes a lot of the healing pressure of the healer.
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post Apr 5 2007, 03:01 PM

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lazy to dispell... i only dispell the robot go enrage @ mec..

yawn.gif

no pressure, let the tank die only icon_idea.gif



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Kyogezsho
post Apr 5 2007, 04:01 PM

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For Blackmorass
ideal group is

1 mage who can spellsteal the 2nd boss if ur tank suck so bad lah and also to handle adds
1 priest
2 DPS
1 Tank

most important task in the game is handling the adds
warlocks and mage are the ideal class to handle the adds alone
as far as my experience ..
i have a mage or warlock .. they can handle the adds themselves .. where by 2 dps and tank on those lord rift and i heal the 2 dps n tank .. where else the adds handler will handle himself at one corner ..

fastest run was 23mins

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post Apr 5 2007, 04:02 PM

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@ gladys : LOL!
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post Apr 5 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 5 2007, 03:01 PM)
lazy to dispell... i only dispell the robot go enrage @ mec..

yawn.gif

no pressure, let the tank die only icon_idea.gif
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sets84
post Apr 5 2007, 08:48 PM

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did it with 2 healers 1 rogue 1 warlock 1 warrior tank.


Added on April 5, 2007, 8:53 pm
QUOTE(myremi @ Apr 5 2007, 11:15 AM)
Guys, some questions about Black Morass. Since it's a straight DPS fight, I'm wondering about a few things :

- Has anyone gone in with one caster (mage/lock) and 2 melee DPS? Excluding the tank and healer. How was the fight?

- How does a Destro Lock compare to an Affliction spec Lock compare to one another for adds and Rift Lords?

- As tanks will have taunting problems with the bosses, how would the gameplay be for mages and locks who have both high crits and white damage? Temperous being the main problem.

- For the casters, in general, should they avoid talents that give them more crit? Since more crit will make the tank's job a lot harder to hold aggro.

- Is there such a thing as too much crit talent/gear? This is for casters.

- Can Locks solo the adds well? Reason being is that the mage may have to do deep drinking between adds.
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if the lock is on the adds then affliction lock. 3 dots, fear = dead. siphon life on single adds and elites will easily recover the hp u use for tapping. dragonlings shuold be clapped, double seeded and ignored.

taunt should never be an issue unless the mobs have aggro wipe.

no, more crit is a must. more crit from talent = less focus of crit on gears = more spell hit. The game of the new expansion is "TO HIT". 20% for rogues and 15% for casters (taken from nihilum's site).

no such thing as too much crit, more crit allows u to socket hit gems.

mage and locks can both solo the adds well. only benefit is that locks can keep dots on both adds and elites. if its a mage, ask the mage to jsut stand where medivh is standing and kill the adds as they come. every time he kills an add he will be out of battle.

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post Apr 6 2007, 02:10 AM

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kidicarus: the cable management of the p182 is awesome dude :/
and 2 drilled holes for future watercooling... sigh regret lol

QUOTE(Kyogezsho @ Apr 5 2007, 04:01 PM)
For Blackmorass
ideal group is

1 mage who can spellsteal the 2nd boss if ur tank suck so bad lah and also to handle adds
1 priest
2 DPS
1 Tank

most important task in the game is handling the adds
warlocks and mage are the ideal class to handle the adds alone
as far as my experience ..
i have a mage or warlock .. they can handle the adds themselves .. where by 2 dps and tank on those lord rift and i heal the 2 dps n tank .. where else the adds handler will handle himself at one corner ..

fastest run was 23mins
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i think my fastest run was 21-24 mins, i was wearing 1-2 greens and rest blues only 1 epic ring (from terokkar using spirit shards)

imo, the ideal group setup is what you said, but replace priest with either pally or shaman, preferably shaman. healing was never really an issue in BM, so the extra healing/PW:S/PW:F capabilities of a priest is not really needed. where else if say you get a shaman, providing str + WF or agi to rogue and warrior, warrior automatically gets extra threat, enabling earlier frontload of dps and ensures aggro solidity, and rogue having extra dps is never a bad thing.

besides, RARARARAARRARARARR BLOOOODDDLUSSSTTTT lawl.
seriously, some 20 ish seconds... dual shaman so agi + wf and stoneskin + str(1 with unleashed rage), 3 beacon (we didnt knew bout the sploit, just did it for fun cuz we never use) and tada!
TWO FIRE ELEMENTALS LOL!

first time stop aeonus is already at 20-30% ish lmao

sets85: mage can still pew pew elites so long he 2-3 shot the bigger one and 1-2 shot the whelps. they take some time to respawn haha
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post Apr 6 2007, 02:21 AM

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myremi was talking about mage drinking issues. thus my suggestion to stand where medivh is and dps from there. compared to aff locks who doesn't even need a single heal or drink for the whole trip.
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post Apr 6 2007, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 02:21 AM)
myremi was talking about mage drinking issues. thus my suggestion to stand where medivh is and dps from there. compared to aff locks who doesn't even need a single heal or drink for the whole trip.
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and ive explained that the mage needs more pew pew less QQ
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post Apr 6 2007, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 6 2007, 02:30 AM)
and ive explained that the mage needs more pew pew less QQ
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more dps and less complains? sorry i dont get what that has got to do with drinking issues.
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post Apr 6 2007, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 10:09 AM)
more dps and less complains? sorry i dont get what that has got to do with drinking issues.
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you fail at understanding wow terminologies lol
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post Apr 6 2007, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 6 2007, 11:36 AM)
you fail at understanding wow terminologies lol
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and u fail at making sense. or maybe u score at making 0 sense.
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post Apr 6 2007, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 11:40 AM)
and u fail at making sense. or maybe u score at making 0 sense.
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oh its there, you dont understand it doesnt mean it isnt there
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post Apr 6 2007, 11:55 AM

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oh then please by all means correct me
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post Apr 6 2007, 12:16 PM

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post Apr 6 2007, 01:18 PM

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-Has anyone gone in with one caster (mage/lock) and 2 melee DPS? Excluding the tank and healer. How was the fight?

Did with 2 melee DPS Rogue and Melee shammy, twas fine..

- For the casters, in general, should they avoid talents that give them more crit? Since more crit will make the tank's job a lot harder to hold aggro.

Hell no.. Go all out.. No one can predict when u crit.. U can have 7% crit chance and do 4 crits at the start of a fight.. Occasionally, u might aggro yes it happens, just hold off a few secs and let the tank grab aggro.. And don't go bustin in when 1 sunder.. Usually 3 sunders can hold atleast 4 3k crits from a frosbolt (tested)..

- Is there such a thing as too much crit talent/gear? This is for casters.

Honestly, not really.. For mages, maybe however warlocks i think more have to focus on spell hit and spelldamage rather than crits..

- Can Locks solo the adds well? Reason being is that the mage may have to do deep drinking between adds.

Doable but not that easy la. But more of a backup rather than main add controller..

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post Apr 6 2007, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(sets84 @ Apr 6 2007, 11:55 AM)
oh then please by all means correct me
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i previously explained on answering myremi's q&a's that good mages dont really need to keep drinking, so long they perform well and/or manage their mana better

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- yes, locks of ANY spec can solo adds very well, the same goes for mages. and no, mages dont need to do any deep drinking. if the said mage of equal skill plays a lock instead, he will still have to deep drink/spam life tapping (which in turn hurts ur healers), no difference. just player skill being poor or good.


so for the "more pew pew less QQ" part, it would literally meant the mage has to do more/better and less sucking.

with that said, im sure you yourself also played with good mages, with mage armor (if you sac some few % crit from molten) and ~10k mana and 2-4k frost bolts or 3-5k fireball crits (fire add in ignite ticks too), adds dont really get to last long and the said mage only spend like what... 200-300 mana? out of his 10k mana pool? lol

if say same mage, do stupid shits like spamming blizzard on THREE WHELPS where they dont even usually group up together for blizz and/or theres another add controler for example hunter, possibly pulling whelps out of ur blizz, or say the mage just retardedly spam AE, obviously, you give him 20k mana he also have to spam drink lol.

aesthetica: good mages makes anything look easy. (not even joking, yes, anything, lol)
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post Apr 6 2007, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(seen @ Apr 6 2007, 12:16 PM)
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21-24mins full run??????????? hell no way ..

my fastest run was like 35min... u kill wave fast doesnt mean the next wave spawn ealier isnt ? it's still remain as their timing.. just the matter on ur drinking time more or less only

we always got plantly of tme to drink yet the next wave doesnt seem come out ealier ......... hmm.gif

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