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 Against pirated games CD/DVD?, Government says No to Pirated CD/DVD!!

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post Apr 25 2007, 12:36 AM

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If you're spending everything you get from your salary within that month...... you need to rethink on how your finances go again yawn.gif ...... being penniless by the end of the month and not saving anything is........ BAADDDDDD.........
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post Apr 25 2007, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(enCORe @ Apr 24 2007, 02:45 PM)
The problem is most original stuff is overprices. I dont support the pirated but I really enjoyed. This should make developers battle & selling at the right price.

Imagine how many % of salary consume when buying. Is it 5% ? no it may exceed 50%. Assume the buyer is the lowage Administration job @ 1K per month, he or she should spends RM300 (windows) + RM100 (antivirus) + Games. Thats BIG gap for all those thing
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there other alternatives to get those "overprice" ori item by buying a second hand copy or saving bit by bit to buy the ori stuff.

Example, if C&C 3 ori price is around RM200, and you know the release date in 4 months times, then in 4 month u can save RM50 per month nod.gif
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post Apr 25 2007, 02:57 PM

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Original
Advantages -- 1)can play online rclxms.gif
2)it's legal
Disadvantages -- 1)malaysian broadband connection sux, play online oso no use
2)overpriced

Pirates
Advantages -- 1)very cheap thumbup.gif
2)1 week warranty drool.gif
Disadvantages -- 1)can't play online (invalid cd-key)
2)against the law


in my opinion, if the government wants to end piracy in Malaysia they should lower the prices instead of actually fighting against piracy
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post Apr 25 2007, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(LAGG3R @ Apr 25 2007, 02:57 PM)
Original
Advantages -- 1)can play online  rclxms.gif
                    2)it's legal
Disadvantages -- 1)malaysian broadband connection sux, play online oso no use -in most cases yea
                        2)overpriced -depend how u look at it
Pirates
Advantages -- 1)very cheap  thumbup.gif  -and in most cases FREE  brows.gif
                    2)1 week warranty  drool.gif
Disadvantages -- 1)can't play online (invalid cd-key)
                        2)against the law
in my opinion, if the government wants to end piracy in Malaysia they should lower the prices instead of actually fighting against piracy
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post Apr 25 2007, 03:55 PM

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but i notice that nowadays original games is already cheaper than last time ..so they are improving and i guess it is not expensive until not affordable.. compare last time those english games all is 200 or 300rm... and last time i afford to get ori Chinese games since they sell on rm50-100...

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post Jun 2 2007, 09:26 PM

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I only torrent the game that can't play online smile.gif
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it's revive.. laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Jun 2 2007, 09:56 PM

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Say no to piracy....if you badly want to try the game....why not download the demo and give it a try. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2007, 11:20 PM

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err..another solution is mayb just sell off in garage sales or something when u dun play it anymore...er there goes ur daily online playing..
altho i dun really support ori here tongue.gif

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post Jun 2 2007, 11:27 PM

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Games are expensive, but I won't deny the sense of pride and comfort you get when you own the original copy.

pirated games are a little bit like a cheap whore, like the three dollar hooker you find in seedy areas. Yea you get the good stuff, but there's still something missing. laugh.gif I refer to the cheap games you buy for rm 3 or so. Torrent games are another different kind of metaphor.

This post has been edited by slickz: Jun 2 2007, 11:30 PM
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i only get free ori tat comes wif mobo and GC... biggrin.gif if separately i don cuz i don play o9 cuz no Internet at home... sad.gif so not worth it la... still student summo... sweat.gif
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nowdays pirated games are not to be trusted. they come in sh!t printing qualities and the games are in "torrent-ed" form. most of the discs are broke
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post Jun 4 2007, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Apr 25 2007, 09:37 AM)
Example, if C&C 3 ori price is around RM200, and you know the release date in 4 months times, then in 4 month u can save RM50 per month  nod.gif


not just that. pre-order copies are usually cheaper too. biggrin.gif and you might even get freebies.

even when i was a student, i only buy around 2 - 5 games per year. it's all about finance management. smile.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jun 4 2007, 10:46 PM)
not just that. pre-order copies are usually cheaper too. biggrin.gif and you might even get freebies.

even when i was a student, i only buy around 2 - 5 games per year. it's all about finance management. smile.gif
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Pre orders are a financial dilemma that could turn into an expensive way of burning $ if i haven't even seen the game and i'm gonna plop 120 bucks for a CNC3 that i have little idea whether its gonna lag like sh1t or just barely run or run ok except when the nuke explodes only then lag if i run it at my LCD native resolution. Its rather expensive at 120 for the plain version considering that NFSC i got on preorder was 79 bucks summore collectors edition blabla. I missed out on the preorder, was 1 day late when i realised it and i was also rather tight financially and if i blew alot of money on a crappy game it would've sucked. If it (CNC3) was priced at a double digit figure NORMALLY, no complaints. I hardly buy originals, usually 1-2 per yr due to affordability and price/performance of the game (is it worth my $$ or not). Having pirated copies allow me to judge whether it is worth buying original or not (if it is, then i'd get the original, preferably secondhand)

Before some red tag asks how many cores i have and whether my PSU is powerful enough to cook maggi+fry eggs, my rig is 70% secondhand parts with the only things newer than 2005 would be a 320gb hard disk, a 19" lcd on promotion and a dvd burner.. Secondhand: AMD2500/S462, NF7 with broken USB, Geforce 5700, crappy old logitech mouse, free keyboard, 1.5gb ram. Recon from old PC: SBlive sound card, FDD, CDRW, 420W PSU

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM)
Pre orders are a financial dilemma that could turn into an expensive way of burning $ if i haven't even seen the game and i'm gonna plop 120 bucks for a CNC3 that i have little idea whether its gonna lag like sh1t or just barely run or run ok except when the nuke explodes only then lag if i run it at my LCD native resolution. Its rather expensive at 120 for the plain version considering that NFSC i got on preorder was 79 bucks summore collectors edition blabla. I missed out on the preorder, was 1 day late when i realised it and i was also rather tight financially and if i blew alot of money on a crappy game it would've sucked. If it (CNC3) was priced at a double digit figure NORMALLY, no complaints. I hardly buy originals, usually 1-2 per yr due to affordability and price/performance of the game (is it worth my $$ or not). Having pirated copies allow me to judge whether it is worth buying original or not (if it is, then i'd get the original, preferably secondhand)

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Actually, the "legal" way to justify this is with demos (Which more often than not, come out AFTER the preorder promotion ends)

Look, its a compromise. I'm not sure how they protect themselves financially by doing preorders as the only thing they gain is confirmed 1st day sales and nothing else. I'm actually VERY surprised that someone is doing something like this as there's no protection on the distributor's side. This deal is obviously meant for ppl who have already decided to buy the game, which is why these preorder deals only apply to sequels to hit franchises.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM)
Before some red tag asks how many cores i have and whether my PSU is powerful enough to cook maggi+fry eggs, my rig is 70% secondhand parts with the only things newer than 2005 would be a 320gb hard disk, a 19" lcd on promotion and a dvd burner.. Secondhand: AMD2500/S462, NF7 with broken USB, Geforce 5700, crappy old logitech mouse, free keyboard, 1.5gb ram. Recon from old PC: SBlive sound card, FDD, CDRW, 420W PSU
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Uh-huh; So did that entire PC cost less than RM 120?

My point was, it is ridiculous to claim that one can not save up for a single game when they could buy a PC (Not individual components) which costs much, much more than an original game.

I did not make that statement to put the blame on ppl who DO in fact buy originals despite a very strict budget but not always (Such as yourself and me inclusive). I aimed that on those jocks who have no qualms putting down over RM 700 for a video card but cry "Its expensive!" for something that can fit into a single DVD and costs 1/7th of their video card.
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM)
Pre orders are a financial dilemma that could turn into an expensive way of burning $ if i haven't even seen the game and i'm gonna plop 120 bucks for a CNC3 that i have little idea whether its gonna lag like sh1t or just barely run or run ok except when the nuke explodes only then lag if i run it at my LCD native resolution.


well my post is just to highlight the possibility of spending less by going through pre-order. smile.gif for the rest, you can just use demo.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM)
Its rather expensive at 120 for the plain version considering that NFSC i got on preorder was 79 bucks summore collectors edition blabla. I missed out on the preorder, was 1 day late when i realised it and i was also rather tight financially and if i blew alot of money on a crappy game it would've sucked.


NFS:C was an unfortunate case. even my friend who bought through PO hasn't install the game as everyone said it was horrible.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jun 4 2007, 11:19 PM)
Having pirated copies allow me to judge whether it is worth buying original or not (if it is, then i'd get the original, preferably secondhand)


use demos. smile.gif better that way. legally speaking.

and yes, i agree with H@H@. some people plop like RM 1.3k - 2.3k for 8800 series graphic card. of course when you have such a card, it's quite understood that you'll have a power supply and processor that matches it too.

and it's even more ridiculous to see people driving RM 100k++ cars claiming originals are pricey.
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Here is the deal ::- original games are downright expensive. RM129 ? RM169? RM300+ ?

And it is unfair to compare it to non-original games prices. RM5...RM10...RM12

But seriously, the point here is to just reduce the price of original games. If that's hard to do, then too bad.

If there were non-original PCs costing RM100 to RM300 versus original ones costing RM1,000 to RM3,000, which one would you buy? Because the majority of people using originals exceed non-originals, we would be hard pressed not to buy original. The problem with non-original CD/DVDs is that, just look around you. Ask that person- "Do you use Jack Sparrow edition CD/DVDs?". The answer, I daresay, would be a yes. Out of 50 gamers, only 1 gamer has never touched a Jack Sparrow edition CD/DVD.

LowYationary :
non-original = pirated
Jack Sparrow edition = pirated
cheap CD/DVDs = pirated



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post Jun 5 2007, 02:01 PM

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I guess because I have a job buying original games is not a a problem to me.

Nowadays games having online features it makes more worthwhile to buy original.

I bought Half-Life 2 when it was launched and I think its online feature was money very well spent.

Plus you don't have to worry about your CD/DVD rotting away due to quality issue that often happen to a pirated CD/DVD.
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QUOTE(defaultname365 @ Jun 5 2007, 01:09 PM)
Here is the deal ::- original games are downright expensive. RM129 ? RM169? RM300+ ?


and are you aware that there are originals from RM 30 - 80 range? smile.gif

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