What to do... I prefer computer's hardware more than handphone. Haiz.. if you want to talk about supporting even before the college... then even up until 35++ I still have to abide by them even if it's really my salary arr?? And where did I talk big?? RM345 is plenty for me... unlike for some people here where even RM1000 is a very small sum of money. At least I didn't disturb the financial of my family here when I go buy whatever I want.


About handphone bill?? What is that?? Got such thing arr?? I only know top-up lorr..


So I assume the problem here is my parents didn't really like me for buying orignal games. But I go on and buy some using my allowance money. Now what that has to do with them supporting me before I go to college?? Or perhaps you are trying to encourage me on following my father advice and buy pirates. And yet the allowance money of my holiday will goes for nothing when I go to arcade anyways or maybe get myself a Razer DeathAdder?? Seriously though.. where the problems lies with that?? Is it wrong for me to buy original games using my monthly allowance "which is very big and plenty for student like me"??

If I were to abide my parents very much even with my allowance money... I won't be using 6800GS right now. I still remember how my father think it is better for me to tint my Kancil with that money rather than me go and buy gc for my PC.

But anyway sorry if I offend you with my stand somehow... but so far I have yet to really contact them because I'm short of money... so I think it is okay for me to do whatever I want with my allowance as long as I don't disturb their peaceful life...

This post has been edited by Kai Sheng: Apr 16 2007, 02:39 PM

Er..Itz Lost Planet:Extreme Condition Collectors Edition which is a limited edition item which contains extra stuff that is not available if u get the ahem version..And dude,the price is Rm249 not Rm299 as u mentioned.Guess i have Rm51 instead for Teh Tarik.

And dude,i bought my Virtua Tennis 3 last week for Rm160,not the Rm200++ price dat u said for console games.

And one thing dude,check the other 360 games that are available on the tsb website.Most of them are priced at Rm159.

Hope dat answers ur question.Thx..

Matrix, you're acting like a prick here man. I agree with someone here who said that

'You dont have to buy all the games, just a couple a year.. buy quality games, you dont have to buy all'.

Plus, 2nd hand games are selling for as low as rm50 bro, dont tell me you cant afford that.

kohkohkoh...

Poor Kai Sheng... he just expressing his opinion that he buys original games using his allowance money.. perhaps to show that even a student can afford originals. But then out of sudden one fella appear and bamm him because he didn't follow his father advise not to buy original and instead... go buy pirated stuff .

Even if the money comes from his father.. he has the right to use the money anyway he wants... unless his father tells him "Don't you dare use the money I GAVE YOU to buy originals games". His father only thinks that buying originals is a waste of money.. he didn't fully restricted him from buying originals (correct me if I'm wrong though Kai Sheng). What kind of mindset is this matrix-fella?? It is a good thing for people like Kai Sheng to have the determination to buy originals instead of "stealing by buying pirated products"... and to go as far as saying that RM345 is not a big sum of money as if you actually despise a college student buying originals using his allowance money... Who's talking big now??


@Kai Sheng.. heh.. you have the same problem like me when I was still a student too. I remember I collect all the money my parents gave me and try restricting my meal everyday just to save enough money to buy CS:CZ and C&C:Generals. And I remember my parents got angry with me because I buy a new RAM for my PC. But year after year they started to understand my interest in stuff like this. They didn't care anymore if I want to buy original games as long as I don't used too much money and make sure my result is top notch. I believe you father have such mindset because he thinks wasting RM100 for only a game is too much when you have the option of going pirated. Try explain to him about this.. I'm sure he will understand about it and won't care if you buy original anymore... as long as it is truly your money (either your allowance or maybe the pocket money that you save up when you get it from your parents)... don't go back and buy pirates just because this matrix-fella bombard you like this...




I wonder... when some people state that they buy originals... suddenly one guy appear and criticize that guy saying he can afford it because he is rich. When a really not-to-rich student state that he buys originals too... another fella appear and criticize him saying he is still dependent on his parents... haiz...

This post has been edited by Phoenixwunin: Apr 16 2007, 05:02 PM

and you are a confused person because you didn't bother to understand that those 2 scenarios are not comparable.

regarding the parents issue, it's fact that while you're under your parents control then it's wiser to understand that they're the boss. then of course, educate them if possible. if they insist that you go for pirated then what can you do?

of course most importantly is that when you CAN, you go for originals. simple as that.

Haiz... don't argue lar about simple matter like this lar...


@Matrix

Yes... I'm fully aware about your point... but taking into consideration that the money is indeed my own money... I don't think it is really wrong for me to go buy originals despite my father's point of view. After all.. he only says that he didn't like me buying orignal games because with such amount of money I can get 10 pirated games... he didn't prevented me from doing so as long as I didn't call him for fuel money . Unfortunately too... I have started to appreciate the feature of multiplayer I got when I bought my self an original C&C 3 Tiberium Wars.. so it is unlikely that I will stop buying my favourite titles, originals in the future. Maybe will go pirated with another games.. but not my favourite titles.

And about the money I have... I know some of you even sees RM2000 as a little money unlike me who sees RM345 as a very big sum of money... but for the current holiday (April to July.. RM345 x 4) plus the amount of money I receive from my part-time work until July... I fail to see how my action of buying original games will somehow affected my family. The only problems IMO lies within my parents mindset... ofcourse educating them on stuff like this is on higher priority.




Anyway I hope my post won't cause much trouble ya... sorry Matrix-sifu but this is my point of view

*Haiz.. why troubled my self with such issue... heck... I can already vote for our next gobemen now... and suddenly talking about diapers here like a small kid

This post has been edited by Kai Sheng: Apr 16 2007, 06:28 PM

lolz....its funny to think of point of views over a simple topic..lolz..dont you think so? It all boils down to consumers choice lar!~

Scenario No.1
Bought Lord Of The Rings Trilogy Boxset..forgot how much...my uncle went to pasar malam and got himself those same 3 DVD's much cheaper than I did...what are you going to do about it? tell him its wrong? He'll prolly listen, but I doubt he'll practise it.

Scenario No.2
Living off parents allowance for college life. Really dont leave you much with that much Yamcha-ing session, snooker leh..pool le..fusball leh..Cafe leh..ghau thim..even giving you RM500 for the month...I really dont think that'll be enough for you to spend RM150 (avg) original games if you want to. So what would you choose to enjoy the game you liked?

That's why lorr... out of sudden becomes a hot arguably topic involving parent as the main issue

But in this case... prefering originals doesn't mean I have to buy every games I want to play originals. Like I stated before... buy only the one that have the value or I really like..

Still... consumers choice is still a point of view.. I do recognize some people who can't accept that and still try to say that they are right... (not necessarily in this forum...)

Wow.. RM500. I can do a lot of stuff with that amount of money per month... didn't think I'll have a problem like that. It's not like I'm buying games every month also... and if you do know how to save up every month... money wouldn't really be a problem

This post has been edited by Kai Sheng: Apr 16 2007, 09:48 PM

How bout this..

Saving money instead of buying original but you buy pirated.

Assuming 1 Original game outside is 150RM.

if you don't buy 1 original game you save 150RM right?

assuming you don't buy 10 original games that you usually would have bought.. (CnC3, NWN2, Stalker.. and such) , that means you have 1500RM more to spend on other stuff... you could easily get a better video card, 19inch LCD, alot of other stuff. games? you can always download them somewhere or get them from friends.


1 GB DDR2 667 Ram = 185RM
1 Video card 7600GT , 128bit, 256MB DDR3 AGP8X - 544RM
1 Geforce 8800GTS 320bit 320MBDDR3 - 1477


Think of it as an investment you could have done on other stuff rather then just games.. or.. think of it that if you stick with your current video card, you can't play your original games at max resolution...
It's all about preference i guess, personally i would prefer to make my money's worth

so... save up to 1500 so i can afford the 8800GTS so when crysis comes out i can play that with DX10?? or should i keep buying origi game and play them as i like?

ahaha


Yes.. you are indeed right my friend

Unfortunately I wouldn't have access to features like multiplayer which is worthwhile and only available in original games... I don't mind buying uncle Jack's version for games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R : Shadow of Chernobyl or F.E.A.R but games like Battlefield 2142 and C&C3 : Tiberium Wars which offers more features only in orginals... is worth it to get in originals.




*But your point on the 8800GTS is right... haiz.. you are twisting my mind already

To compromise one section for the benefit of the other........ the thing we're stuck here is totally a moral call........

Instead of buying an uber rig, I prefer to save up some money to buy other important thing like a tv or a motorcycle for example. Who cares for max graphics and resolution? I am pretty happy to play games at 1024x768 res with medium or high settings. I just need the games to be playable with good graphics. Since I have somewhat medium rig with 7600GT, around of the current games right now is on medium settings.

I seldom buy and play games. It makes some games that I bought worth. I am not a maniac who plays every new games that were released. How many games I bought this year? Only one. I have several games installed in my PC. But I only played 1 or 2.

A habit that I saw from certain people who illegally downloaded or bought pirated games is that they played the single-player part of that games, and then because they cannot play it online, they play another games. They always give shits critics about this and that. But they never actually feel the multiplayer experience of that particular games. For example, CoH, C&C3 and SupCom. See some people bi-tching at those threads.

People like these also kind of mad at games that its main purpose is multiplayer like WoW and BF series. Blizzard made sucky game called WoW? They never tried it yet but always giving bad opinions on the game. EA sucks consumers' money? Hey, they're a large business company that its main purpose to find profits.

Thinking of how good they're with games? Oooh, Call of Duty is the best as I can see how stupid the Germans are! Wahlao, I beat the Brutal AI of C&C3! Try those games online. See how the differences, gain more skills and don't be an arse.

IMO, it depends on the which brings the most value. for low income people, pirated games bring more value coz they can spend less to play more. for people who tot tat after sales service is important so they can get patches and fixes for thier games they'll most probably buy original games. it also depends on how the person's spending behaviour. quite some reasons tat will affect us to buy whether ori/pirated games. it depends on how do we wana spend our money...

I rather have a mid range rig with ori games than an uber rig.

Most pirated games that i have bought doesnt work or it comes with virus.Why should i buy more pirated games?It has potential to screw up my whole com and my brother's com was infected by virus.Due to that reason,i rather get ori games.Less trouble in installing,virus free and far longer replayibility.

hahaha...an acceptable rig la..but the thing about getting used to lagless games is...the urge for speed is there..and that temptation of having state of the art technology and mind blowing FPS's or high benchies~ are like amphetamine to a drug addict...

Its practically similar with it. I cant stand it having 40 FPS on the dot while playing my games...omg~ somebody give me some poison!~ and end my misery~ lolz!~ prolly i shudnt be playing computer games...more and all!!

So...I dont know why I paid the games for wat..lolz!~ Joking oni.....

Yes..original games are always the easiest and their CD are 150% readable..even in 10 years time...suprisingly? my Lands of Lore 2 from WESTWOOD cd is still working after so many years? lolz! HAIL WESTWOOD! BOO TO EA..-___-' sighz...Another MUST BUY ORIGINAL GAME is most definitely ALAN WAKE.

Provided you have a rig to support it.This game's minimum requirement is a dual core and DX 10 if im not wrong.

I got most of my original PS2 game at RM50 to RM130 range. All game, including console and PC, will drop in price over time, I usually buy game that are few years back while only pick a latest greatest game if I really like it. (Currently waiting to import PM5 from Taiwan and Odin Sphere from Japan)

Console game often will release economic edition or best buy version after 2 or 3 year after release. The packaging may not be great, a simple DVD box with manual and disc, but the game still run perfectly and that is the most important point.
I got the complete .hack series for only RM150. Imagine that, 4 PS2 DVD game for only RM150 that is about RM38 each. That is less then my monthly hand phone bill! The game will last me several months before I need to buy another game.

Try getting your game online, you can easily find good bargain for older titles.

Saving money huh?

Why don't I stalk ppl who come out of Tesco with a cart full of groceries, beat them senseless, then take all their goods for myself?
Or maybe steal someone's credit card and use it to pay for my car's fuel?
Maybe I should open a fake clinic and give out fake medical advice. Don't need a medical degree so I can save money.

Hey, I'm just saving money... Who cares about all those ppl I'm stepping over just to get what *I* want. I mean, *I'm* the one that's important right?

I think this post pretty much sums up the average Malaysian attitude towards IP. All they care about is themselves, just so long as they can get away with it, with no thought about the effects or ramifications of their actions.

Well, I suppose this is so much better than the "I can't afford it" arguments, but it certainly paints a much less flattering image of yourself though.

I support original game!!! My one and only original cd... Ragnarok Rm 3... haha!!

the other alternative for getting original console games (should be applicable for PC games as well) is to trade it with the other gamer or getting a second hand copy which in most cases only cost u half of the original price