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 Against pirated games CD/DVD?, Government says No to Pirated CD/DVD!!

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Kai Sheng
post Apr 17 2007, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Apr 17 2007, 07:57 PM)
the other alternative for getting original console games (should be applicable for PC games as well) is to trade it with the other gamer or getting a second hand copy which in most cases only cost u half of the original price  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I thought there will be some conflict with a second hand PC games' cd-key... if it really is then it's better to go buy first hand original titles... except for console ofcourse tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Kai Sheng @ Apr 17 2007, 08:32 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I thought there will be some conflict with a second hand games' cd-key... if it really is it is still better to go buy first hand original titles...
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He's talking about console games (Which don't have CD-keys). This could work with PC games, but you have to be VERY careful
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post Apr 17 2007, 08:44 PM

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As far as i am concerned, game publishers do not have proper/abundance retail channel. If i were to buy ori, i would want to enjoy whatever priveleges that comes with it. Where as pirates have really strong retailing network, the game publishers seem to take the other way around. Grey paralell importers is not what i call luxury shopping, nor would i say legitimate either.

At this time of age, everyone can afford a piece of original games. It's a matter of choice. Some people choose to buy even imitation slippers but why? Simply not worth it, that the reason most people give. Unless game publishers can give us reason to support thenm (in Malaysia at least), i don't see a need to support them. Heck, people have been photocopying books all this while, but no one's complaining? So spare us the pity and lecture, no one gives a *.


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post Apr 17 2007, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(miloy2k @ Apr 17 2007, 07:57 PM)
the other alternative for getting original console games (should be applicable for PC games as well) is to trade it with the other gamer or getting a second hand copy which in most cases only cost u half of the original price  icon_rolleyes.gif
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True, back in the 80s and 90s while I was still a school boy back then. Me and my friends would coordinate on games to buy so that we can swap among each other, playing every game for the price of one. icon_idea.gif

2nd hand market for console and PC game arent that strong in Malaysia, due to cheap and easy access to Jack version.
Down south in Singapore, I was made to believe there is an active 2nd hand market for console games. Even new titles will soon goes up for sale within a month, I have yet to experience it myself but several of my friends down there are buying and selling 2nd hand console games around.

Also, I have sign up to www.Jumboplay.com since last year. They offer legal download of PC game, although older titles, for a very affordable price of RM20 a month. Currently they have 75 games with 3 new game added each month without additional cost. thumbup.gif
Since then I have totally stop buying western/English PC game(Jack or otherwise) and get my game solely from Jumboplay.
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QUOTE(Kai Sheng @ Apr 17 2007, 08:32 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong.. but I thought there will be some conflict with a second hand PC games' cd-key... if it really is then it's better to go buy first hand original titles... except for console ofcourse tongue.gif
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In my case, I will be getting my second hand copy of ori pc games (like COH, and so on..) from my close cozen where by will amend the on-line registration (email detail and so on).


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post Apr 19 2007, 10:45 AM

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The problem here in Malaysia is that there is a big pricing mismatch when it comes to many things, especially entertainment i.e. DVDs, game software, books etc. What I'm trying to say is that Malaysians LOVE Western entertainment media, but the media itself is priced at a level reflecting the value in a foreign currency that is most often unaffordable to those not earning in US$ or others. While I do not like to pay in excess of RM100 for an original game, I believe that sometimes one does not have a choice. Take online games like WoW for example. Without the ORIGINAL CD Key there's no way you're going to be able to play it. Then there's the question of supporting the thugs and gangsters who operate the pirating business. Next is the quality of pirated DVDs, for instance. I mean, it pisses me more to shell out RM5-10 for a movie that's recorded in a movie theatre, or worse, for a disc that doesn't work.

I don't know about you people, but I am NEVER buying any more pirated goods, if I can help it. I plan to be more selective and just go for the original even if it means just buying 1 game or DVD every few months. The way I see it, sooner or later everyone will have to go buy the originals anyway given the crack down on pirates. Just go take a walk to Imbi or Low Yat - it's hard to find any pirate software now.
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post Apr 19 2007, 11:05 AM

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You missed something important here about piracy. There are two kinds that mostly used for getting pirated products.

1) Buying the pirated goods.
2) Downloads illegal/licensed stuff.

Wise pirates choose the second option. While there places of pirates are getting nuked everyday, does it really that hard to find any software pirates now? For me, it's not that hard. After getting Streamyx I seldom wasting my money buying pirated products. I do, however, acquiring such things using internet. But to be a man with respect and honor, I appreciate those game and software makers by purchasing original products. I am a person who soon to be in the industry. I am not a kind of person who getting the things illegally and whining like jackasses.
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post Apr 21 2007, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 16 2007, 05:58 PM)
and you are a confused person because you didn't bother to understand that those 2 scenarios are not comparable.

regarding the parents issue, it's fact that while you're under your parents control then it's wiser to understand that they're the boss. then of course, educate them if possible. if they insist that you go for pirated then what can you do?

of course most importantly is that when you CAN, you go for originals. simple as that.
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Okay.. noted. Sorry for that...

I just want to mention that there will always be a reason/accusations for people who buys original games.

Regardless that... I still encourage people to buy original.. try to educate parents about stuff such as IP and so on so they will understand it better.
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post Apr 22 2007, 02:44 PM

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Hey guys,

Anyone have any idea where to purchase original games in Penang? Bloody difficult to find original CDs here.
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post Apr 22 2007, 06:46 PM

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@magic-addict
Yup, it is pretty difficult to find original retail box of game outside of KL.
Try checking online shop, such as www.play-asia.com, http://www.hmv.co.jp/index.asp?lang=en.

If you dont mind older titles, you can try www.jumboplay.com.
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QUOTE(XEN -v- gK @ Apr 22 2007, 06:46 PM)
@magic-addict
Yup, it is pretty difficult to find original retail box of game outside of KL.
Try checking online shop, such as www.play-asia.com, http://www.hmv.co.jp/index.asp?lang=en.

If you dont mind older titles, you can try www.jumboplay.com.
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My point exactly, why go around snooping for original goods? That's the act of pirates. doh.gif
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post Apr 23 2007, 12:05 AM

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ARGH!!! So So Angry... vmad.gif I will never support original. Even buy original also got problem. Bought War Craft Battle Chest for RM139 end up got error msg and cant read the cd... Haih wats the point of buying original if the quality is the same as pirated. Not like movies at least got different in quality. Somemore is my second original game.



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post Apr 23 2007, 09:38 AM

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@XEN -v- gK : actually I can buy from Malaysia's own online stores via www.pcgame.com.my and www.tsb.com.my. The only problem I have with buying from them online is the box or packaging of my cd is always spoilt or broken once it arrives. Since I pay so much for them, at least I think the item should arrive in perfect condition.

@redken: don't get me wrong, I never condone to piracy and would never buy pirated cds fyi. Will only get original games. If Penang doesn't have any original cd sellers, I'll go get them online even if the box is broken or something, coz its the right thing to do.

@ctgan1983: you're unlucky I believe. Where did u get the battlechest from? Return to the shop. I know TSB allows 6 days warranty.
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post Apr 23 2007, 10:11 PM

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i got from pcgame.com.my
luckily I stay in klang and their head quater is in klang... Goin to bang their door d... HAHA!!! drool.gif
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post Apr 24 2007, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(magic-addict @ Apr 23 2007, 09:38 AM)
@XEN -v- gK : actually I can buy from Malaysia's own online stores via www.pcgame.com.my and www.tsb.com.my. The only problem I have with buying from them online is the box or packaging of my cd is always spoilt or broken once it arrives. Since I pay so much for them, at least I think the item should arrive in perfect condition.
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My mistake, since you didnt mention you are looking for PC or console.
I mostly buy original console games and few Japanese PC game from the site i mention in my previous post.
While download most of my western PC game from Malaysia's only legit PC game download service at http://www.Jumboplay.com
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post Apr 24 2007, 02:45 PM

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The problem is most original stuff is overprices. I dont support the pirated but I really enjoyed. This should make developers battle & selling at the right price.

Imagine how many % of salary consume when buying. Is it 5% ? no it may exceed 50%. Assume the buyer is the lowage Administration job @ 1K per month, he or she should spends RM300 (windows) + RM100 (antivirus) + Games. Thats BIG gap for all those thing

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how many times do you buy games a month? how many games are released in a month? all that factors in. rm 200 a month for games isn't too bad for most people or rm 200 every 2 months.
learn to budget your finances. buy what you can afford when you can afford it. anyone that spends more time in games than in the real world needs to get a life.


ps i spend about rm 150 on ori games a month. last buy was C&C. nothing else till halo 2 vista.
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QUOTE(enCORe @ Apr 24 2007, 02:45 PM)
The problem is most original stuff is overprices. I dont support the pirated but I really enjoyed. This should make developers battle & selling at the right price.

Imagine how many % of salary consume when buying. Is it 5% ? no it may exceed 50%. Assume the buyer is the lowage Administration job @ 1K per month, he or she should spends RM300 (windows) + RM100 (antivirus) + Games. Thats BIG gap for all those thing
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Let's make this more interesting shall we?

How much to buy a PC? At least rm 1000 for something passable. OMG, THERE GOES YOUR WHOLE MONTH'S SALARY!!!

I mean, by that example you give, its as though you buy a new version of Windows and AV every month. Uh huh.


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Besides,softwares like AV or anti-spywares do have freewares on the net and they are pretty good.

I have never bother to buy those security software since i got most of them from the net for free.
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new windows everymonth of course laugh.gif , its only my assumption ler shakehead.gif

One1 games is RM150 per month, its 15% from 1k salary quite costly, Event those hi wages people buying pirate games, nothing can be expect for the remain.


QUOTE(H@H@ @ Apr 24 2007, 06:48 PM)
I mean, by that example you give, its as though you buy a new version of Windows and AV every month. Uh huh.
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