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chris_c28
post Apr 14 2007, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Apr 13 2007, 11:59 PM)
Well, i got another question here. blush.gif

Now, I already activated my Vista, so if let say I format my computer, when i reinstall back Vista, do I need to activate again the windows? Or it will automatic activate since I ald activated last time...
P/S : The Vista I bought is neither OEM nor Retail....
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What do you mean neither OEM nor Retail? If you buy Vista, it has to be one of these editions (MSDN, Academic, Technical Previews, etc. have licences resembling OEM copies).
Anyway, to answer your query, you won't be ask to reactivate if the reinstallation is performed on the same motherboard and hard disk (even when reformatted). Vista ties your activation key to your motherboard's BIOS ID or something if I remember. I have tested this too and it is indeed true that a motherboard/BIOS switch will result in you having to reactivate your copy again.

Reactivation is easy. Just call up the 24 hour toll free number based in India and give them the activation ID. They will reissue you a new one. It is entirely confidential.
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Apr 13 2007, 11:59 PM)
Well, i got another question here. blush.gif

Now, I already activated my Vista, so if let say I format my computer, when i reinstall back Vista, do I need to activate again the windows? Or it will automatic activate since I ald activated last time...
P/S : The Vista I bought is neither OEM nor Retail....
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well activation is manual or auto depending on when u reinstall when the asked u to insert the cd key.. there is a tick there saying auto activation upon connection right...
if u unclick that then u have to activate ureself.
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(chris_c28 @ Apr 14 2007, 12:16 AM)
What do you mean neither OEM nor Retail? If you buy Vista, it has to be one of these editions (MSDN, Academic, Technical Previews, etc. have licences resembling OEM copies).
Anyway, to answer your query, you won't be ask to reactivate if the reinstallation is performed on the same motherboard and hard disk (even when reformatted). Vista ties your activation key to your motherboard's BIOS ID or something if I remember. I have tested this too and it is indeed true that a motherboard/BIOS switch will result in you having to reactivate your copy again.

Reactivation is easy. Just call up the 24 hour toll free number based in India and give them the activation ID. They will reissue you a new one. It is entirely confidential.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 14 2007, 01:00 AM)
well activation is manual or auto depending on when u reinstall when the asked u to insert the cd key.. there is a tick there saying auto activation upon connection right...
if u unclick that then u have to activate ureself.
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coz recently my school jus had a Vista launched, i get my Vista with RM5 only, so i dun think it is either OEM or retail... tongue.gif

btw, thanks for both of ur answer, now no need to worry bout the activation on my next new computer... laugh.gif
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Apr 12 2007, 02:52 AM)
do u guys feel that the build-in Window Defender is enough to block/cure those spyware/malware? Planning to install a 3rd party anti-spyware.... hmm.gif
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for now, as far as i've research, no virus yet able to go to the kernel level. even ur installing 3rd party anti-spyware@ any anti-virus application, the application wont perform 100% since in Vista, it wont allow any contact to the kernel level. and, vista also, have been introduce session isolation. theres 2 different session in vista, session 0 and session 1. session 0 is fo servis and all the os crap. while session 1 is for log in user crap. there will be no "hubungan" between session 0 and session 1. huhu ~

vista being build base on loophole on win2000. usually when user log in, services and lockdown user will run in same session. malware@spyware@their siblings, will try to levereage their credential in order to do anything what they want. if cannot leverage by using user credential, the spyware@else will go to service level and seek for what kind of credential of the service use. from there it will use the credential tu leverage.

using third party anti-spyware is not a bad thing. since it can help clean up ur session 1 because most of the time (very2 usually) those spyware@else came from log on user side.

just my 2cent blush.gif
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:36 AM

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hmm i think many ppl are not checking the graphic card temp
so let me post here for u all too freak out...
its a high res..
check the side bar....freaking hell look at the diode.. thats the tempp...81 for the first card and 75 for the second...

even for windows xp at stock fan speed the temp was only 69 for first 65 for second
thats how much all this aero is straining the card...


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post Apr 14 2007, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(easternC @ Apr 14 2007, 01:15 AM)
for now, as far as i've research, no virus yet able to go to the kernel level. even ur installing 3rd party anti-spyware@ any anti-virus application, the application wont perform 100% since in Vista, it wont allow any contact to the kernel level. and, vista also, have been introduce session isolation. theres 2 different session in vista, session 0 and session 1. session 0 is fo servis and all the os crap. while session 1 is for log in user crap. there will be no "hubungan" between session 0 and session 1. huhu ~

vista being build base on loophole on win2000. usually when user log in, services and lockdown user will run in same session. malware@spyware@their siblings, will try to levereage their credential in order to do anything what they want. if cannot leverage by using user credential, the spyware@else will go to service level and seek for what kind of credential of the service use. from there it will use the credential tu leverage.

using third party anti-spyware is not a bad thing. since it can help clean up ur session 1 because most of the time (very2 usually) those spyware@else came from log on user side. 

just my 2cent  blush.gif
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what about services that needs user login intervention?
session 0 or session 1?
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post Apr 14 2007, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(cocklea @ Apr 13 2007, 11:34 AM)
hey guys, emule can work with vista or not?
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Yes, version 0.47c works just fine.smile.gif

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post Apr 14 2007, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Apr 14 2007, 01:07 AM)
coz recently my school jus had a Vista launched, i get my Vista with RM5 only, so i dun think it is either OEM or retail... tongue.gif

btw, thanks for both of ur answer, now no need to worry bout the activation on my next new computer... laugh.gif
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i also got my vista business msdnaa. when look at wga utility it says - 05 - RETAIL

mean msdnaa give retail one . same like xp msdnaa - also retail one

if you look at you product id at system properties it show xxxxxxxx-number-xxxxxx
if oem it show xxxxxxxx-oem-xxxxxx

so it not oem

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post Apr 14 2007, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 14 2007, 01:36 AM)
hmm i think many ppl are not checking the graphic card temp
so let me post here for u all too freak out...
its a high res..
check the side bar....freaking hell look at the diode.. thats the tempp...81 for the first card and 75 for the second...

even for windows xp at stock fan speed the temp was only 69 for first 65 for second
thats how much all this aero is straining the card...
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do you try disabling aero and see how much it goes?
Mine is still the same as it was in XP blink.gif blink.gif
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post Apr 14 2007, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 14 2007, 12:57 PM)
do you try disabling aero and see how much it goes?
Mine is still the same as it was in XP  blink.gif  blink.gif
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disabling aero i get about the same as xp.
the driver for nvidia card clearly has some problem

ok weird part...

using 8800gtx sli.. windows ultimate downloads nvidia 101.4
using 8800gts windows home premium downloads nvidia 101.7

go figure..
also dude no offence to ure card.. but i want to know feedback from ppl using either the 8800gtx card or the x1900xtx...
cause this two are freakin hot..

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Apr 14 2007, 01:50 PM
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post Apr 14 2007, 04:36 PM

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Vista Version: Windows Vista Ultimate
Problem:
1. i am using laptop when i choose turn off de screen after 1 min, when i am watchin movie or wad after 1 min of no touching of the mouse or keypad, the screen turn off itself, so frustrating lo how to over come it ah?

2. sumtimes startup very slow and de cpu indicator light not blinking at all, hav to press start or wad to WAKE it up like tat........

3. shutdown very slow ler..........

4 my usb hub which works under window xp now cant work under vista.........y y y ? where can i get the driver?

5. when i play song using wmp 11 will hav crack sound and sumtimes even lag a while lag a while, y ler? but i can play c&c and need for speed carbon smoothly....y?
vailance
post Apr 14 2007, 08:10 PM

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i got only vista ultimate as main os.. if i wan install second os winxp how to install properly to avoid loosing vista in boot manager?
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post Apr 14 2007, 08:15 PM

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download vistabootpro after installing xp to reinstall vista bootloader.
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post Apr 14 2007, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(wewa25 @ Apr 14 2007, 08:15 PM)
download vistabootpro after installing xp to reinstall vista bootloader.
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r u sure bro.. later lost my vista i will jump river.. wat is vistabootpro?how to use? use after install xp then use in xp?

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QUOTE(vailance @ Apr 14 2007, 09:32 PM)
r u sure bro.. later lost my vista i will jump river.. wat is vistabootpro?how to use? use after install xp then use in xp?
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maybe this article will help
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20060622/...l-boot-with-xp/
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post Apr 15 2007, 12:03 AM

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Any free vista tweak software available for vista? I just love the Xp-Antispy as they disable those services tat i not required for Win XP last time.
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post Apr 15 2007, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(splinter @ Apr 15 2007, 12:03 AM)
Any free vista tweak software available for vista? I just love the Xp-Antispy as they disable those services tat i not required for Win XP last time.
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Hmm..you can try TweakVI 'Basic' (only basic edi is free).
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post Apr 15 2007, 12:30 AM

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or just do what i do..
i have windows on my raptor hdd
so just plug it in via esata port whenever i want and when i start my comp choose boot menu and then just make it run to that hdd.
actually always thought esata is such a waste on the io...untill now...

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post Apr 15 2007, 01:27 AM

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i just got vista home premium and it works ok up to this time
but i tried to install illustrator cs2 and photoshop cs2 chap lanun cannot ler

have to wait for cs3 i guess
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post Apr 15 2007, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(amygdala @ Apr 15 2007, 01:27 AM)
i just got vista home premium and it works ok up to this time
but i tried to install illustrator cs2 and photoshop cs2 chap lanun cannot ler

have to wait for cs3 i guess
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not sure bout illustrator, but my photoshop cs2(not ori la!) running well on my vista. thumbup.gif

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