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WingKalimdor
post Apr 2 2007, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 2 2007, 03:42 PM)
Wow, that long?? I did a defrag b4 but it took me only bout an hour. How big ur hdd is?
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40GB + 80GB
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post Apr 2 2007, 04:52 PM

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Can i believe it with my system? sweat.gif

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post Apr 2 2007, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(WingKalimdor @ Apr 2 2007, 04:01 PM)
40GB + 80GB
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Then something muct be wrong. for my notebook 80Gb hdd, it took only bour an hour. So urs should be arouind 2 hours most to most. Btw, how many % u utilise both ur hdd?
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 2 2007, 04:56 PM)
Then something muct be wrong. for my notebook 80Gb hdd, it took only bour an hour. So urs should be arouind 2 hours most to most. Btw, how many % u utilise both ur hdd?
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post Apr 2 2007, 05:36 PM

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Which more better? Vista 32 bit or 64 bit?
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:11 PM

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Rofl, waiting for M$ to coming out with a un-BUGGY version will be like waiting for money to drop from the sky

Pros of vista
Beautiful eye catching design (providing u have a GC that support PS2.0)
Better security
Programs (IE7, Bitlocker(ultimate), dreamscene(ultimate), WMP11, Media Center(home premium and above)

Cons of vista
less compatible with a lot program
memory eating

Pros of WinXP
more compatible with current program
less memory consuming
can upgrade to vista look (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/424533 (credits to J-Slade))

Cons of WinXP
Fugly (unless u upgrade to vista look)
less secure

thats all i can think of
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post Apr 2 2007, 06:30 PM

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still using win2k with no complain. dont know what's the fuss unless you want to use pcs at max or playing games.

otherwise, stick to what you use. why waste.
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Apr 2 2007, 05:36 PM)
Which more better? Vista 32 bit or 64 bit?
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From the spec you provided above , it's highly recommended you to stay on Windows Vista 32-bit because your system hardware doesn't met the requirement at all to run the Windows Vista 64-bit.
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go for 32 if you are not going to buy any 64 bit programs. IMO the 64bits still have issues with drivers more than the 32bits.
1GB + 20GB Hdd should do the trick with Vista, but there are some cases that I heard that the Turion is not as good as the Intel's Cetrino as it will suddenly use more battery when installed Vista as there are more background process than XP. you might want to skip Vista for your laptop and install it on your desktop instead.
Defrag should be faster on Vista than XP as theorathically, it will auto defrag whenever we are not using the PC IE idling.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 2 2007, 06:56 PM)
go for 32 if you are not going to buy any 64 bit programs. IMO the 64bits still have issues with drivers more than the 32bits.
1GB + 20GB Hdd should do the trick with Vista, but there are some cases that I heard that the Turion is not as good as the Intel's Cetrino as it will suddenly use more battery when installed Vista as there are more background process than XP. you might want to skip Vista for your laptop and install it on your desktop instead.

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Thanks linkinstreet. Ur give good info about it. nod.gif
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Hello all,

I have a question regarding RSS Feed Headlines gadget in the Windows Sidebar for Windows Vista.

How do I remove the feeds from the Headlines once I subscribe to it?

And how to remove the Microsoft Feeds\MSNBC News, Microsoft at Home and Microsoft at Work?

Thanks.
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post Apr 2 2007, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Apr 2 2007, 09:23 AM)
Wowoweee, sooooooooooooo many issues with windows Vista. I envied my friend when he bought his home basic edition. Now... not so much.

I want directx 10, I want windows media player 11, I want better security, I want stability.

But I absolutely dont want to stab my eyes with a fork when vista decided to rape me without a condom.

So ....... should I wait for Vista to weed out the bugs and compatibility issues and for the major component/software manufacturers to catch up with vista?

Before I dive into unknown territories?

For RM305, it's quite cheap though.

which version is better? home basic or premium?

FYI: I've tried IE7, so much bugs I can open an insect muzium with it.
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Vista overall is ok with recent hardware, minus the IE7 which its UI load up so sluggishly, the icon are so SMALL to click to, and STILL NO any "highlight as you search" find feature in firefox. doh.gif And its decision to lock up the UI (which probably MS want to prevent any malware to modify the UI toolbar) is really a bad idea. And do you guys notice that, whenever you drag a link to an empty space on the tab, it will open the link in the existing window, unlike FF which open them in a new window...and i hate that...really, and not to mention it cant feature a bookmark folder in the toolbar for easy access to favorites.
Security wise, it may be better than IE6, but feature wise, I give a thumb down.

QUOTE(sniper69 @ Apr 2 2007, 09:47 AM)
seriously, you're using Vista for what? DX10 games? AFAIK, there's no available DX10 games yet, and you're gonna need nVIDIA GeForce8 series or upcoming ATi's R600 to use DX10 feature...IMO, i rather to use WinXP with Vista looks, less headache...
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to use XP with all those vista eyecandies, will use up more RAM compare to having it natively in vista tongue.gif

QUOTE(lamely_named @ Apr 2 2007, 10:03 AM)
Well, that's why I'm asking.

It's not like I've decided to buy it already.

And what's this about Digital rights Management that shuts down your monitor to prevent viewing copyrighted multimedia content?

that would sux like a vacuum cleaner. sad.gif
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no...thats a fake rumor tongue.gif
see my thousands of downloaded mp3 still there whistling.gif


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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Apr 2 2007, 05:36 PM)
Which more better? Vista 32 bit or 64 bit?
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64 bit has lots of unsolved issues, and it simply make your 2 GB of RAM looks like a midget, 64 bit OS gonna eat more RAM than any 32 bit OS out there.




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QUOTE(TYK @ Apr 2 2007, 08:49 PM)
Hello all,

I have a question regarding RSS Feed Headlines gadget in the Windows Sidebar for Windows Vista.

How do I remove the feeds from the Headlines once I subscribe to it?

And how to remove the Microsoft Feeds\MSNBC News, Microsoft at Home and Microsoft at Work?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 2 2007, 06:11 PM)
Rofl, waiting for M$ to coming out with a un-BUGGY version will be like waiting for money to drop from the sky

Pros of vista
Beautiful eye catching design (providing u have a GC that support PS2.0)
Better security
Programs (IE7, Bitlocker(ultimate), dreamscene(ultimate), WMP11, Media Center(home premium and above)

Cons of vista
less compatible with a lot program
memory eating

Pros of WinXP
more compatible with current program
less memory consuming
can upgrade to vista look (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/424533 (credits to J-Slade))

Cons of WinXP
Fugly (unless u upgrade to vista look)
less secure

thats all i can think of
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I beg to differ on that issue. What IS really memory consuming? If the less memory it uses the better, than what is the reason you buy all of that memory in the first place. I forgot where I read it, but the best OS if it ever exist will use 99% of the memory available and use that accordingly to the program it needed. While you might think that Vista is using more memories, it's actually using it to make program go faster using superfetch. considering XP vs Vista in memory issues, XP waste more ram than Vista, as every used RAM allocation you see in Vista is not wasted compared to XP.
On the looks, Vista will use less resources compared to XP on the same rig with the same looks. Thus why even bother using transformation pack on XP when in reality you are making it slower than if you're natively using vista?

Syahid: no offence dude, this IS a vista thread, and we don't really f***ing care what OS you use.
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post Apr 2 2007, 10:46 PM

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post Apr 2 2007, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 2 2007, 10:30 PM)
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Syahid: no offence dude, this IS a vista thread, and we don't really f***ing care what OS you use.
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righty thumbup.gif well most ppl will think that way before they try install themselves, even last time me also having such prejudice. Using 2 GB now, running matlab2006 with few functions on, and 6 firefox windows with multiple tabs, one WMP11, and other background apps, i can flip the windows smoothly, switching between windows totally no glitch at all...and the RAM usage just barely hit 59% maximum.

of course vista need at least 1 GB, forget about minimum requirements of 512mb

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post Apr 3 2007, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 2 2007, 10:30 PM)
I beg to differ on that issue. What IS really memory consuming? If the less memory it uses the better, than what is the reason you buy all of that memory in the first place. I forgot where I read it, but the best OS if it ever exist will use 99% of the memory available and use that accordingly to the program it needed. While you might think that Vista is using more memories, it's actually using it to make program go faster using superfetch. considering XP vs Vista in memory issues, XP waste more ram than Vista, as every used RAM allocation you see in Vista is not wasted compared to XP.
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Well said. I'm sick of people lamenting over how Vista uses up all their available memory, yada, yada. I'd say if those people want to install and use Vista (not play with it), then try to understand how memory management is implemented in Vista instead of simply criticising it based on what they see on the surface of things.
I'm also against many arguments on backwards compatibility. I'd prefer systems to continue progressing forward rather than wasting too much development time on backwards compatibility and there's a whole range of reasons why Vista is designed this way. Mac OSX had poor backwards compatibility, but no one complains because it's not Microsoft and it's probably too uncool to diss a Mac.
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post Apr 3 2007, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(WingKalimdor @ Apr 2 2007, 05:11 PM)
I think should be better if I left a screen shot here as revision.
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hmm.gif Strange but i dun seems to have the solution. tongue.gif


Added on April 3, 2007, 9:31 am
QUOTE(chris_c28 @ Apr 3 2007, 12:54 AM)
Well said. I'm sick of people lamenting over how Vista uses up all their available memory, yada, yada. I'd say if those people want to install and use Vista (not play with it), then try to understand how memory management is implemented in Vista instead of simply criticising it based on what they see on the surface of things.
I'm also against many arguments on backwards compatibility. I'd prefer systems to continue progressing forward rather than wasting too much development time on backwards compatibility and there's a whole range of reasons why Vista is designed this way. Mac OSX had poor backwards compatibility, but no one complains because it's not Microsoft and it's probably too uncool to diss a Mac.
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Ahh, another well said rclxms.gif this is what i am trying to stress out from last month.. Balik balik complain Vista memory eating la, make pc slow la.. Macam macam la.. yawn.gif

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post Apr 3 2007, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Apr 2 2007, 06:11 PM)
Rofl, waiting for M$ to coming out with a un-BUGGY version will be like waiting for money to drop from the sky

Pros of vista
Beautiful eye catching design (providing u have a GC that support PS2.0)
Better security
Programs (IE7, Bitlocker(ultimate), dreamscene(ultimate), WMP11, Media Center(home premium and above)

Cons of vista
less compatible with a lot program
memory eating

Pros of WinXP
more compatible with current program
less memory consuming
can upgrade to vista look (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/424533 (credits to J-Slade))

Cons of WinXP
ugly (unless u upgrade to vista look)
less secure

thats all i can think of
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Dude, Windows Vista confirm faster than Windows XP.
Regarding the "change to Windows Vista look" , better don't do so because it corrupted the Windows entries when you restore it back to usual. smile.gif
I didn't feel any memory absorbing perharp the system running fine and stable, you should consume a lot in your system hardware before making this prediction.



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