thanks, but what i meant was to view the files and folders shared among a wireless lan group. not share among the same com. last time in xp i can view those folders in "My Network Places" but now in vista i duno where to view them. in "Network" also dont have.

MAY I KNW HOW MUCH IS WINDOW VISTA BUSINESS ED?CAN ANY 1 TELL ME?

hmm, even if u have 5.1 soundcard + speaker setup oso will 2 channel...need certified drivers..or u can try re-installing xp drivers in compatibility mode..it will work 90% of the time unless ur having system conflicts..

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Added on April 4, 2007, 2:24 pmyou can always change it in the power management options. change it to shutdown instead of standby/sleep..

This post has been edited by wewa25: Apr 4 2007, 02:24 PM

err.. manually type their ip address into the run box?

example

\\192.168.0.1

u should be able to access their comp then

Quoted from windows help & support

to open network, just go computer and look at the box besides it, theres a network icon there



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ish.. my bad.. didnt notice this.. ignore the above post

This post has been edited by pipedream: Apr 4 2007, 02:28 PM

that function has been built-in to vista

Go to Control Panel

select from Power Options

select the Power Saver option

trust me, 20000000000% working!

oh uhh..so this doenst apply? hmm..who else who have wifi at home with a few coms of xp + vista and no prob viewing files among them?

I just found out that we dun really need to defrag Vista as it will defrag itself on idle mood.

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You are saying "Don't take a copy as a base - wait until some magic time when you're not at your PC so it can defrag". No! I want to start work NOW not wait for some mythical time when Vista MIGHT have got round to doing its defrag.



even if vista was telling you the time left (the XP defragger wasn`t doing that) it wouldn`t never be accurate. it could show you 1% remaining, but then it could get stuck on some big file for hours.


irascian wrote:
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I went through this last night. I could either wait until a scheduled run on Wednesday or get on and do some work NOW. I chose now! No indication as to how long it might take, or how far it had got four hours later when I decided I might as well go to bed.




you don`t have to wait for the scheduled run, all the times you`re away from your PC, even a few minutes, defrag starts and ends in the exact moment you move your mouse or press a key on your keyboard (breaking the idle time).


irascian wrote:
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The previous version of Defrag would have given me a fairly realistic estimate, AND showed me visually how bad the situation was before I started. The new version shows me NOTHING.


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how bad? I think you have a vague idea of what kind of fragmentation causes performance loss.

a fragmented file is created when: you write multiple files at the same time, when you run out of disk space forcing windows to create fragments because it can`t save a single stream, when you reopen an existing file and add content to it (only on XP, vista doesn`t save the files all stacked one next to each other).

you get a real performance loss only when your system and applications files become fragmented (causing applications taking longer to load), and this doesn`t happen unless you use buggy installers that save multiple files at the same time and you also get a real performance loss only when the number of fragments on the partition becomes extremely high (causing too much overhead in the filesystem).

I`ve preinstalled system for entire years, and all this "OMG my computer is so fragmented that I`m getting fragged at Q3!" are just users obsessions: defragmentation, unless you run always fill your HD, unless you have a data center or unless you are a man-machine that creates and delete files 24/7 is a task that doesn`t require all the extreme attention you give to it.

most defragmenters (including vista`s) most of the time waste a lot of time just to stack files together and that surely doesn`t help much the performance (system and applications files aren`t loaded alphabetically): they call it "consolidating free space" but it`s pretty useless and this is what give the users the impression of the partition being fragmented (because it takes a lot of time for the defragger to complete its task) while it`s not (there`s no performance loss in having a "fragmented free space").


irascian wrote:
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How ANYBODY can think this doesn't matter at all is totally beyond me!



how can ANYBODY be so worried about fragmentation even just after installing windows is too totally beyond me. on XP clean installs I install office, I install NETFX (1,2,3), I install hotfixes, I install the antivirus, I install adobe reader and, can you believe it, reversi... whoops... WinRAR all without defragmenting. And without even the slighliest performance slowdown (yes, I ran benchmarks with sandra, winbench and others), weird isn`t it?[/QUOTE]

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This post has been edited by adriankhoo153: Apr 4 2007, 03:08 PM

did u try the \\192.168.x.x command in run?

\\(other computer ip address)

Here's what i got out from the latest Kb released:

Security Update for Windows Vista for x32/x64 -based Systems (KB925902)

Download size: 1.8 MB

You may need to restart your computer for this update to take effect.

Update type: Important

A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.

Anyone has problems with this Kb??

This post has been edited by wewa25: Apr 4 2007, 04:12 PM

I install every single update. So far no problem at all..

i guess most probably its localized to that guys desktop..i have also installed all the updates..so far so good..

alternative if got problem using microsoft/vista update:
http://download.microsoft.com

then can download manually..

there is also an issue on networking in windows vista..it requires some tweaking b4 windows xp pc could 'see' windows vista pc in their network..

This post has been edited by wewa25: Apr 4 2007, 04:41 PM

What tweaking? Currently having problem to view XP pc in my Vista and also others also can't view my pc in their XP

sorry bro..read it a while back..got something to do with some settings..now i'm trying to find the source again..remembered bout a patch solution for the windows xp pc.. now wan search oso dunno where

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Added on April 4, 2007, 5:00 pmerm, can read about solution if related to Norton Internet Security/Norton Anti Virus...

CNet Solution

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Added on April 4, 2007, 5:01 pmanother recommended solution for network problem by Microsoft:




This post has been edited by wewa25: Apr 4 2007, 05:01 PM

so, let said i'm using bitcomet and utorrent client , then just want to know is there any installation problem for window home premium?

i know what u meant...sharing files between 2 or more comps...i know...

i'm sharing my files between my comp and another winxp comp also...through wifi

those are the steps i follow and no problem so far...

and you will be able to view each other's shared files via the comp name shown in either my network place in xp and network in vista

you wouldn't need to locate the address of the other comp if all the settings between comp are correct.

This post has been edited by dualshock: Apr 4 2007, 06:07 PM

RM5 at utar

OEM is around RM499 and the Retail is twice the price RM5 is for students (Actually it is free, the RM5 is for the dvd cost)

Err, they actually give out Vista free for students? sound sweet.. whats the catch?

UTAR msdn department only selling Vista DVD full retails for RM5 at Vista Day to those student who involve in computer study.

aww thanks. but crap, tried that but aint workin. thanks anyway. i can live w/o that =)