As i know govt policy always change because they lack OTAK, few months ago, we were ask to attend a training course in selangor whereby all farmers who are applying license needs to attend. In the course, the malay lady who is from haiwan dept mentioned that all shoplot will be issue license and all rumah kedai needs to convert to office kedai which is easy according to her.
Then, what happen? mah ka hai!! license issues delayed until next year.

Tak ada OTAK !!! balik kampung lah!!! chi pek!!

Sorry for my wording. Minta maaf!! too heaty!!! must install few more units of humidifiers in my house!!!. where is the ad clip again!!! he!


kohloh,

Wah, your nests TOO white lah!!

What you said is true, need to find a super place to build a nest mansion.
area with thousand acres of oil palm, thousand acres of fruits farm, hundred acres of waste dumpsites, a big reservoir which purportedly would not dry out, and with birds count estimated at 50,000 birds (from calculation of nests harvested each months from the 40 plus farm houses which are 10km from the super site). Sounds good!!

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Added on October 28, 2007, 6:10 pmAll those who had farms in the shophouse need not worry, the govt will issue the license!.
Bear in mind that there are over 10,000 farm shoplots in the whole malaysia,

IF THE GOVT DO INTEND TO STOP US FROM FARMING IN SHOPLOT, WE CAN ORGANISE A DEMONTRATION TO PUTRAJAYA. EACH SHOPHOUSE OWNER ONLY NEEDS TO FIND 5 FAMILY MEMBERS TO JOIN IN THE DEMONSTRATION,
10,000 x 5 = 50,000 PEOPLES IN THIS DEMONSTRATION. IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST DEMONSTRATION IN MALAYSIA !!!.

MAH KAH HAI!!!

where is the ad clip again,.....`chun tien phua hui kai.........' PEACE!!!!

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Added on October 28, 2007, 6:31 pmAnother video clip, the song is complement well with the video clip.
Please do not misunderstand here, i'm not promoting the CON-sultant,
but he do make a good video clip, ha ha!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/swiftletranching

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[quote=kohloh,Oct 28 2007, 01:00 PM]
walauwea,
so fast the red wording tukar ah.tats why dont blur blur ah.me not any high han lah ,just cari n makan only.but lates project is back to farming again cause has located an super spot for farming.
good spot for farming means fast result with super return at future time but many must be take counted-
firstly foods supply for birds so they will have an good grouth(like human lah when easy to cari makan then can back to home at 3pm to enjoy life aready)second is the eco system of the area-will it secure for life time??will goverment come to kacau us ,will it over devolope,or in 5 years time it will be full with birds farm??is the area if farmed it will disturb the local people staying near by??and many many more lah but first must find the locations first n make sure it had swift birds at the area to feed at all time mens at morning 7.30am till evening 6.30 pm there are birds to call(attract) but result at the test is taken counted means how many populations are at the area feeding.like opening shopping malls lah=where populations are many then big shopping malls like Gaint boleh cari makan lah(but those small die out).to much to be note here lah ,no time
for my standard up to date 500+pieces of nest after 18 month is good lah but just founded some lagi bagus locations n hopes tuhan bagi Ong sikit lah fr future plan

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Hi Koh Loh, nice meeting you here, thanks for your expert advice. last two week just bought two corner lot double story in Jementah, Segamat. That area i heard the breeding speed is around 100 nest in first one year, in your exprience that area is suitable for me to invest as a newbie ?

member........are u heard at SG PERAK ( riverside) got many birdsssss.
if i got a land or shoplot i mesti invest there.

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Added on October 29, 2007, 3:38 pmany member got farm house at riverside ( sg perak ?)

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Added on October 29, 2007, 3:58 pmWHAT YR IDEA FOR INSTALL AIR COND AT FARM HOUSE ?
PLS TELL ME TQ


This post has been edited by TPE994: Oct 29 2007, 03:58 PM

good birds stay home

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jan 19 2008, 05:03 PM

Swifbuild,

I agree with you some of the farmer like to lebihlebih(show off)you know recently i go to visit one place(cannot mention the name)the farm over there put the sound so loud,use four tweeter for the entrance. Some farmer do sound competition also, the next door sound loud we must go louder than next door scare the birds kena pancing away. That the way the farmer thinking.

walet loves cicak

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jan 19 2008, 05:04 PM

Swiftbuild,

your comment is so much enlightening...you are right that the govt didn't even know who should be in charge of this license things, first was suppose to be haiwan dept, then, sabah guys said it is forest dept, then bugi tai said it is
bandaraya ( so that they can get kopi wang'), then they said ...... NEVER ENDING STORY FOR THIS BODOHLAND!!!.

I Think govt is ok lah for the switflet licence , cuma we want to follow the guideline......this can.... this cannot . first time only lama lama
biasalah tu.......... jabatan Haiwan also confirm the bird no harmful
( bird FLU ...HN51).........DON"T WORRY

TIN TIK LOK LAI TONG PEI KAM ( CANTONES )

LANGIT JATUH BUAT MACAM TUTUP SELIMUT SAJA. ( MALAY)

HA.....HA.....JOKELAH

Guys,
I can resemble this business with pirated DVD but we are better. The business is good, money is good, anything is possible. License is mission impossible. Don't worry, we have Datuk dato to be on our side too. Let's learn from Nike: Just Do It!

Frank

Hi Koh Loh, nice meeting you here, thanks for your expert advice. last two week just bought two corner lot double story in Jementah, Segamat. That area i heard the breeding speed is around 100 nest in first one year, in your exprience that area is suitable for me to invest as a newbie ?

segamat is an good spot for farming too but seems many farm there aready.speed are good at start early few years back but i dont think now cause too much farm now,as fr u with shop can try loh,
depend at who is yr see foo n how good he is,dont expect an Con sultant to consult all farm with good result,if he is so good at this then he aready rich with his own farm.any consultant that dont own few farm with few thousand pieces please dont call them self consultant, it will bring others into the 85% bus.
survey must be done first for few time to be sure there is birds around n does yr skill win over guys over there ,if no, can u get others high hands birds tat staying at their farm to stay at yr places??aready had how many farms near by??is there any old farm near by that produce babies fr u??

survey n survey still my word,its an very risky business is u didnt do good rescearch


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ATTENTION: PLS REFER SINCHEW NEW 31-10-2007
BUKIT MERTAJAM/NIBONG TEBAL/PENANG .........PROBLEM........MAJLIS PERBANDARAN YERTERDAY
ROBOH/DESTROY THE ILLEGAL SHOPLOT BIRD HOUSE.....MORE THAN 10 SHOPLOT. THE PRESIDENT SAY
HE WILL TAKE ACTION NEXT DAY AND HE SAY SEBERANG PERAI/BKT MERTAJAM GOT MORE THAN 1050 BIRD FARM
AND ONLY 336 GOT APPROVAL LICENCE ONLY............
MANY BIRDFARM MAN COMPLAINT BECAUSE THE APPLICATION FOR THE LICENCE TAKE TIME AND COST
FOR THE DRAWING, LICENCE ABOUT RM4K.

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Added on October 31, 2007, 3:23 pm frank 123
u say learn like NIKE " JUST DO IT" COOOOOOOOOOL DOWN.......
U SEE CHINESE PRESS "SINCHEW" NANTI KITA HABIS.................HE...HE.....

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tats the truth n the truth is here .there is still many say ""cheong ah"" n some say this is "BODOH" n tat is "BODOH" but does he know what going on the whole market. some may ask why is there 1050 bird farm at that area but only 336 licences issue??tats why lah=the first step,limit it first but many wont listen n think that the town is his papa one.
for assotations they early early has know what is coming in their path,but this is an business.some time we tell u guys to becarful but seem no one is listening.u cannot compare with some guy that own 100s of licences means like some one at malaysia can get thousand of APs to import cars n we intend to stick beside meaby can get few for our own loh,
DEMONSTRATION ""u can but will it work or is there people to join u ,just the goverment will say to u an simple word,=there is way to get licences but many wont n dont expect them to approch in front of u to issue u licences br.
to expensive""another step to prevent the whole town turning into farms.
i,m not complaining at what bro here saying but think deeply,any new town devolope by govermnent will turn into farm at 5 years time ,can this be carry on??me ""NO""me have been into this biz for 8 years n i know what is coming but we had make our moves frist to plan n second fr our future


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i SUPPORT KOH LOH SUGGESTION. IS TRUE MAYBE NEXT 5-8 YEAR TOWN BECOME A
COWBOY TOWN.............NO FUTURE LAH..........

Greetings all,

I went back to my hometown "Kota Kinabalu" Sabah, I found this Swiflet Mansion "Really its a mansion!" or a Hotel. Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I6xRHCITvU



This post has been edited by Sham903n: Oct 31 2007, 04:18 PM

good works perbadanan

This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jan 19 2008, 05:06 PM

MOst chinese lack one thing, mojority of them are selfish (of course if you don't think so, then don't read further, skip it, thks), if it is other people farm
who is been torn down, it is his problem not mine.

This is the problem with chinese, you will always be step down by the malays,
they can crush you bit by bit because they know that we are just a bunch of greedy, selfish mean that will not fight back for our own people.

THINK AGAIN WHAT YOU ALL HAVE WROTE IN THIS FORUM, IT SHOWS IT ALL OVER IT......MAH KAH HAI!!!!

The reason that these farms were taken action was because they never care to apply for license from bandaraya even though they have the opportunity to do it. Most of the reason is too expensive. What is so expensive?? it is damn cheap to me, if selangor do issue license, i'm willing to pay even if it cost 10,000.

All this will not happen if they work together as a team, they have an association which are the oldest (but don't expect the idiot with 100 farms to help you, everyone knows this guys is f***XXX selfish!!)..........

ahh...malas nak type lagi.....

[quote=kohloh,Oct 31 2007, 09:35 AM]
Hi Koh Loh, nice meeting you here, thanks for your expert advice. last two week just bought two corner lot double story in Jementah, Segamat. That area i heard the breeding speed is around 100 nest in first one year, in your exprience that area is suitable for me to invest as a newbie ?

segamat is an good spot for farming too but seems many farm there aready.speed are good at start early few years back but i dont think now cause too much farm now,as fr u with shop can try loh,
depend at who is yr see foo n how good he is,dont expect an Con sultant to consult all farm with good result,if he is so good at this then he aready rich with his own farm.any consultant that dont own few farm with few thousand pieces please dont call them self consultant, it will bring others into the 85% bus.no
survey must be done first for few time to be sure there is birds around n does yr skill win over guys over there ,if no, can u get others high hands birds tat staying at their farm to stay at yr places??aready had how many farms near by??is there any old farm near by that produce babies fr u??

survey n survey still my word,its an very risky business is u didnt do good rescearch

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Hi Koh Loh Jementah is a small town 20 km from Segamat on the way to Tangkak , if i am not wrong the place just started become hot spot these 1 or 2 years time. nearby 300 ft from my shop there were around 3 no double sty shop already started operating 3 or 4 years ago and each of them are getting around 3 kg a month, all of them making the farm at 2 nd floor only.

Expected more than 10 new farm will be constructed including myself when the cf ready in December. Any advice if i am looking for crystal swiftlet (cs) to be my consultant ? always come across in the internet that they are no 1 famous consultant in Malaysia. Will they (cs) be too busy with good business untill....... some of their client farm especially newbie like us failed under their consultation ? as you mentioned above don't expect an consultant to consult all farm with good result, i heard their on-site inspection fee is not cheap either for prior full consultation.

swifbuild,
as we all understand whats the teory is,why go disturb the goverment side since they also dont wanted to disturb us at farming.there is many ways to farm peacefuly but many ignore,simply wanted to disturb the autorities,simply wanted them to take action on us.
if we keep quite then many will say we are selfish n this n tat.
""sincerely I don't pity those whose farms kena ROBOH""
i aggree with that,,,,,if not our own to watch our back ,who will??

skynest,
"" This is the problem with chinese ""chinese problem pulak,Do u know there how many malays are in this business here at east cost ??have u seen all the picture yet??do u know how many success bumis farmers here??do u know how many times we had been to majlis for private metings tru the years??do u kow how many times i had met local D.Os here thats ask us to shift our farms to the chinese cemetary area????
why all my gang at selangor area with over 50 farms aready has licences ah??why ah??why ah??the problem is u dont reach out to know whats happening in this line.only to sit back n TCSS(tok cock ,sing song) n complain here wont guide u to any where.tats my advise n no one will help out if u still write this way.

tongserseng,
by yr explain i think yr places still have the potential for it n can call for an ""cheong ah"" if u dare to but 1st please apply for renovations so when goverment steps in we have all papers,applications is for like if u r building up an monkey house for birds to enter or lifting the roof fr well design,the out side must be keep the same as the building is,u can cover up yr windows in "IN SIDE" but not out side like some tat bringing down the window n stuff it with bricks(tak sedap mata tengok lah)spoil the town image.about consultant=i,m not going to say who is good or who is bad,as we see every day many newbies consultant r here to get biz.just use yr sense to guide u loh,as u know if that guy have skilled or good CDs ,r he willing to share with u tat just ask to consult just 1 bird farm>???their aim is those tat drive an new merz n had many shop or willing to invest meaby 5 to 10 farms.do i make it clear here??i think u understand aready,


""I THINK THIS GUY COMPLAIN MUCH""


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[quote=kohloh,Nov 1 2007,

Dear Kohloh, few days ago just consulted a consultant from Kuantan, His advise me to sell off one of my two corner shoplot that i bought provided i can find buyer and earn some income, cause both shoplot no point fighting each other to attract the swiftlet, and both of them are 200 feet apart and renovation cost is not a small sum of money, estimation renovation cost for one shoplot quoted is around 30 over k for 2 nd floor around 2100 sqft ( one level only ), and around 50k if 2 nd floor false ceiling replace by concrete slab with auto_door at the swiftlet entrance for security, longer lasting and heat resistance purposes. As an experience swiftlet trader like u if u were me, what will be your first step action need to take ? which type of renovation option will u be consider ? or take the consultant advice and sell off one of the shoplot?

ok,
consultant at KTN area is mostly Lee or Sim or A Fatt.are they aiming fr the shop that u r going to sell??second is u r right if 2 shop is to near toghether.nest farming dont need big space only 2 floor if u can stuff it full house u will easy get over 30kg/month but this is not achieve now days,its only for the first generations farmers way back when birds had no places to stay.if yr point of buying those 2 shop only for farming then i advise u to sell off cause 2 shop is to near by but as an investment u can do both if yr financial is OK then after 1 or 2 years if yr consultant is good enough n with result u should know HOW MUCH THOSE SHOP WORTH each no need me to tell u lah then thats the time to sell off 1 to hit n run fast fast.mana satu to sell no need me to tell u lah.
if u r in ned of cash for renovation then u can always sell 1
concrete slab or auto gate is to make yr money
is May Bank or Public Bank strong enough???pun kena jugak
as for expreances we use to hire guard seems till now the best loh,better do more rescreach to many well know places here at east cost only to know more about farming,see how we hire guard to stay at farms,how we plan fr future or meaby visiting my farms over hereto know many more secrect at farming but make sure i,m free loh cause i,m an collecter of raw nest all over mersing till kota bharu
nest farm wont cost much as at my point of view but to call bird to come to hatch n populations increse that the main point.staying at 100pcs or 2oopcs after 3 years wont do any good n u will join the 85% group for sure.
now days speed is the whole game.who come first n win over that area is the main point not flokering into spots tat wear off aready.this game is once invested yr moeny there is no return,jus keep on going weather the spot is right or not or even if u wanted to sell of but result is no good then buyers will say "lu siew ah"
can try to contact me at <ronniekohloh@hotmail.com> to chat live or 013 9012098.



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