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 V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc

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post May 16 2007, 10:04 PM

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post Aug 7 2007, 10:15 PM

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hi, I had followed your instruction "U need to click "download: 001.rar" at the bottom. Then type in the 4 digit/letter then press Download" but still unable to download.

Please assist. Thanks


Added on August 7, 2007, 10:15 pmhi, SeeSeng

I had followed your instruction "U need to click "download: 001.rar" at the bottom. Then type in the 4 digit/letter then press Download" but still unable to download.

Please assist. Thanks


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post Oct 29 2007, 12:50 PM

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[quote=kohloh,Oct 28 2007, 01:00 PM]
walauwea,
so fast the red wording tukar ah.tats why dont blur blur ah.me not any high han lah ,just cari n makan only.but lates project is back to farming again cause has located an super spot for farming.
good spot for farming means fast result with super return at future time but many must be take counted-
firstly foods supply for birds so they will have an good grouth(like human lah when easy to cari makan then can back to home at 3pm to enjoy life aready)second is the eco system of the area-will it secure for life time??will goverment come to kacau us ,will it over devolope,or in 5 years time it will be full with birds farm??is the area if farmed it will disturb the local people staying near by??and many many more lah but first must find the locations first n make sure it had swift birds at the area to feed at all time mens at morning 7.30am till evening 6.30 pm there are birds to call(attract) but result at the test is taken counted means how many populations are at the area feeding.like opening shopping malls lah=where populations are many then big shopping malls like Gaint boleh cari makan lah(but those small die out).to much to be note here lah ,no time
for my standard up to date 500+pieces of nest after 18 month is good lah but just founded some lagi bagus locations n hopes tuhan bagi Ong sikit lah fr future plan
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Hi Koh Loh, nice meeting you here, thanks for your expert advice. last two week just bought two corner lot double story in Jementah, Segamat. That area i heard the breeding speed is around 100 nest in first one year, in your exprience that area is suitable for me to invest as a newbie ?
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post Nov 1 2007, 12:19 AM

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[quote=kohloh,Oct 31 2007, 09:35 AM]
Hi Koh Loh, nice meeting you here, thanks for your expert advice. last two week just bought two corner lot double story in Jementah, Segamat. That area i heard the breeding speed is around 100 nest in first one year, in your exprience that area is suitable for me to invest as a newbie ?

segamat is an good spot for farming too but seems many farm there aready.speed are good at start early few years back but i dont think now cause too much farm now,as fr u with shop can try loh,
depend at who is yr see foo n how good he is,dont expect an Con sultant to consult all farm with good result,if he is so good at this then he aready rich with his own farm.any consultant that dont own few farm with few thousand pieces please dont call them self consultant, it will bring others into the 85% bus.no
survey must be done first for few time to be sure there is birds around n does yr skill win over guys over there ,if no, can u get others high hands birds tat staying at their farm to stay at yr places??aready had how many farms near by??is there any old farm near by that produce babies fr u??

survey n survey still my word,its an very risky business is u didnt do good rescearch
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Hi Koh Loh Jementah is a small town 20 km from Segamat on the way to Tangkak , if i am not wrong the place just started become hot spot these 1 or 2 years time. nearby 300 ft from my shop there were around 3 no double sty shop already started operating 3 or 4 years ago and each of them are getting around 3 kg a month, all of them making the farm at 2 nd floor only.

Expected more than 10 new farm will be constructed including myself when the cf ready in December. Any advice if i am looking for crystal swiftlet (cs) to be my consultant ? always come across in the internet that they are no 1 famous consultant in Malaysia. Will they (cs) be too busy with good business untill....... some of their client farm especially newbie like us failed under their consultation ? as you mentioned above don't expect an consultant to consult all farm with good result, i heard their on-site inspection fee is not cheap either for prior full consultation.
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[quote=kohloh,Nov 1 2007,

Dear Kohloh, few days ago just consulted a consultant from Kuantan, His advise me to sell off one of my two corner shoplot that i bought provided i can find buyer and earn some income, cause both shoplot no point fighting each other to attract the swiftlet, and both of them are 200 feet apart and renovation cost is not a small sum of money, estimation renovation cost for one shoplot quoted is around 30 over k for 2 nd floor around 2100 sqft ( one level only ), and around 50k if 2 nd floor false ceiling replace by concrete slab with auto_door at the swiftlet entrance for security, longer lasting and heat resistance purposes. As an experience swiftlet trader like u if u were me, what will be your first step action need to take ? which type of renovation option will u be consider ? or take the consultant advice and sell off one of the shoplot?

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Nov 1 2007, 01:34 PM)
ok,
consultant at KTN area is mostly Lee or Sim or A Fatt.are they aiming fr the shop that u r going to sell??second is u r right if 2 shop is to near toghether.nest farming dont need big space only 2 floor if u can stuff it full house u will easy get over 30kg/month but this is not achieve now days,its only for the first generations farmers way back when birds had no places to stay.if yr point of buying those 2 shop only for farming then i advise u to sell off cause 2 shop is to near by but as an investment u can do both if yr financial is OK then after 1 or 2 years if yr consultant is good enough n with result u should know HOW MUCH THOSE SHOP WORTH each no need me to tell u lah then thats the time to sell off 1  to hit n run fast fast.mana satu to sell no need me to tell u lah.
if u r in ned of cash for renovation then u can always sell 1
concrete slab or auto gate is to make yr money
is May Bank or Public Bank strong enough???pun kena jugak
as for expreances we use to hire guard seems till now the best loh,better do more rescreach to many well know places here at east cost only to know more about farming,see how we hire guard to stay at farms,how we plan fr future or meaby visiting my farms over hereto know many more secrect at farming but make sure i,m free loh cause i,m an collecter of raw nest all over mersing till kota bharu
nest farm wont cost much as at my point of view but to call bird to come to hatch n populations increse that the main point.staying at 100pcs or 2oopcs after 3 years wont do any good n u will join the 85% group for sure.
now days speed is the whole game.who come first n win over that area is the main point not flokering into spots tat wear off aready.this game is once invested yr moeny there is no return,jus keep on going weather the spot is right or not or even if u wanted to sell of but result is no good then buyers will say "lu siew ah"
can try to contact me at <ronniekohloh@hotmail.com> to chat live or 013 9012098.
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Thanks Kohloh sure will call u up soon .... U indeed well known, one of the above Kuantan consultant is the guy that i mentioned, but don't have the opportunity to talk to him directly yet, caused he is recomended by an agent in Endau, Johor which i knew him a year ago, So far he is the middle men between me and the consultant. I think u know what this agent looking for..........treating this consultant as his boss already

This agent have 5 farm at the moment, 1 st farm 3 1/2 years 3sty shoplot which 2 units combined together, farm at 2nd and 3rd floor, their latest result is 6 kg per two month cause a bit slow down recently, the farm is jointventure with the consultant. Another 3 farm located at Kulai, 1 st farm 2 years old 40 nest inside, result no good so he looking for buyer at the moment. another 2 farm just started couple of months ago, in short term he also want to sell it away cause he bought the shoplot pretty cheap. The last farm is at Endau Pahang also just started few month back, this one he not going to sell anyway cause in proses of applying licence.

Not sure you familiar or not the area around Endau Pahang, Bought a shoplot there develope by Tunas Manja last year, but got to sell it off recently cause not able to get licence anymore for the new shoplot started this year onward. Don't know lucky or not but still able to make couple of thousand ringgit of the sale. A bit heart pain to sell it off if seeing countless swiftlet flying above the shoplot roof eventhough under the hot sun 12-1pm, because few step away is few old farm getting around 10kg a month.



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post Nov 1 2007, 08:59 PM

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[quote=skynest,Nov 1 2007, 05:40 PM]

Skynest, i don't think the consultant will cheat me lah, they only give me the option to choose...........
Some more if Kohloh also know the guy, he should be really so call Shi Foo i think.....
I don't think he want jeopadise his own reputation just because of me lah.........



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post Nov 2 2007, 12:47 PM

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Hi all the members here, Interested joining me visiting Kohloh factory and farm ? I hope Kohloh will be glad and welcome us .......
Kohloh, are you free end of this month ? or kindly let us know which date is suitable for us to visit you.......

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post Nov 2 2007, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(kohloh @ Nov 2 2007, 01:08 PM)
end of this month sorry cause my boss over indonesia is kawin so have to attend dinner but if u guys wanna see indonesian 250 workers at nest processing factory come join me.i will arrange table at the wedding dinner fr u gang but make sure u pay "ANG POW" lah.
mostly nest collected here at MAL is exported to indon for process cause of labour diffrents,many wont understand but that is the truth.as early i say this buisness like working like an cow,run here run there like mad man.
farming at indonesia does not show u much cause they r also suffering there for long time aready as many indon come to see us farm here says "malaysia bird are "siew one"(gila one) means once open sound all come flokering  but not at indonesia ,so one havent seen how hard its there dont say its an easy task.
still the same word "go back to farming" cause once harvest u got the 90% of the money aready but even farming there is many tech n expreances must be involve unless u willing to be the 85% gang.

hungry aready ,be back at evening
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Sound interesting, can join indonesian wedding some more............ ladies and guys what are we still waiting ???
treating this journey as year end holiday lor. Kohloh what are the exact date you will be there and how could we meet you up ? Still have time to buy the air ticket ?

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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Nov 2 2007, 08:21 PM)
AH seng,

What happened to the forum suddenly bunch of fool fighthing, I read kelvin books the parts that he talk about sound 'he actually copy my write in the forum.'.Ah ya let him lah. So no more revealing too much infor in low yat the cORN-sultant read all and compile it to make their own books.

Why they fight like kid ah? Who is this KOhloh? Mind tell me a little about him?

Now adays anybody can be consultants "Danger'

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Swifbuild, here got two Seng which one you are refering to............ Seeseng or me ? Actually don't know why the results is like this ........ thought asking Kohloh will enlighten me more on swiftlet farming........ ended up somebody firing at him and his supporters for given me the priceless information. Ai ya why become like that ah ???????? let's share the knowledge together mah....... those reluctant one please keep quiet lah ?????????? don't firing behind people mah............ please.................... we come to this world only for short while,,,,,, hope you guys or ladies can understand.......... now not doing good then when want to do lah ............ after d............... ????????????
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Seeseng, are you still there ?????? seem like very quiet nowadays,,,,,,,,,, how is your farm going on ?????? got nest inside liao ???????????
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post Nov 19 2007, 10:32 PM

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Something good to share please look at latest ideo klip........ Have a very nice watch lor ........
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/swif.../messages/1?l=1
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Ai Ya ............ go to google, look for dictionary conversion lor ............... rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 1 2007, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(seeseng @ Nov 30 2007, 08:18 PM)
Online Indonesian --> English dictionary? Do you have a link on that tongserseng? Thanks in advance.
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Hi all members........ berpacaran means to make love lah wub.gif .................. thumbup.gif
Online dictionary...........http://www.kamus-online.com/index.php?lang=en


Added on December 1, 2007, 8:54 am
QUOTE(ccheongf @ Dec 1 2007, 12:04 AM)
Hi seeseng,

Mind sharing news about your Hygrostat. Is it the same as Kong Heng`s type ?
Is it effective ? How much is it ?


Added on December 1, 2007, 12:57 amTo all readers. NO OFFENCE  to anyone. It`a personal feeling of mine. You can read on or skip this. Your choice. It`s like a trend now ,many new people including me also jump into this venture,( BIRDS NESTS WAH! WAH ! )many opportunist also jump in to advice of setting up farms,of course with whooping amount , easy money eh ?.Quite many poking and stabing at each other over the net.  I`ve used  about 210K to set up two farms, the first one my own shop,the second one share with my relative. Hired a consultant total cost inclusive everything 78K and easily the consultant make 30K to 40K from me .All in all about 2 months.The reason why i`m venturing into this is ,the first and the last venture.Make it or do nothing in future.I`m not that damn rich but I`ve prepared to lose the $. I`m wondering if I can get back the capital used or have to wait for how many long years.Most of us are attracted by the stories like so many kilos lah per month. Wonder how true it is ? The bigger the farm the higher the success rate? Small farm like mine is already doom even before it`s started ? Just some thoughts from a newbie.
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Don't be sad ........... sure there is way out....... in this case if ur farm are hopeless...... then u DIY lor.... many farmer in Setiawan also do the same but only thing don know when it will success, some need take fews years only know the problems ....
Good luck to you :nod

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post Dec 16 2007, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(yyang @ Dec 16 2007, 10:15 AM)
hi.. !
i'm new to swiftlet farming...
i'm interested with it.
may i know, if a swiftlet farming house which had been operated for a year and only able to collect around 10 nest.. isit consider bad or good?
thx ya! smile.gif
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Go in the farm and check the quantity.... then that's will be more accurate to tell.........
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post Dec 18 2007, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(yyang @ Dec 17 2007, 12:56 PM)
there are around 50 birds and 10 nest...
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fall on poor side...... but better than 0 nest.......... buy or not judge urself, 50 to 100 nest will be fair to consider............ whistling.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 07:42 AM

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Dear fellow member.......... Having one complete set Swiftlet Farming books ( with real photo ) bought from Eka Walet Indonesia, anybody want can PM me will sell it on 10 % discount from the cost i purchased. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(joeyyee @ Jun 18 2008, 02:58 PM)
I know about the ekawalet. Called there, but had transport problem. They don't dare to export to M'sia. Anyone else had other contact?

I heard some farmer throw the eggs as they had surplus (they want to harvest the nest already), so if those who do that don't mind, I can buy it from u.
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Try look for Koh Loh or Kong Heng equipment suplier


Added on June 18, 2008, 4:14 pmAny body can advise when is the best time installing humidifier for a new BH ?

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post Jun 19 2008, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 18 2008, 06:02 PM)
best time to install thing is around 11am - 2pm.....
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Oops sorry...... i means how long after new BH operated

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