V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc
V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc
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Jun 28 2008, 12:20 PM
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427 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Malaysia |
Wau, long write up by handave....swifbuild, y not u try to answer some of the question that ppl in this forum asking?? rather than keep on promoting your blog? because ur blog stil new, so nt every question ask by the ppl from this forum is answered.....dun worry, i do visit ur website....
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Jun 28 2008, 09:50 PM
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2 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
Hii.. Everyone i am new member here.
Respectively let me introduce myself, i am albert. i have read this forum from the beginning and hope i can share and learn more information from other members. thx Added on June 28, 2008, 10:39 pm QUOTE(West Wing @ Jun 25 2008, 01:16 PM) From my humble point of view, if your lower floor attract lesser birds, you have some problem with the lower floor because bird tend to like lower floor cause the temperature is more stable and never too extreme. Initial few nest maybe on the upper floor because it is brighter and feel safer due to new surrounding but gradually, they will go down to be safer as darkness is to their advantage. Yes, they play in the top floor and who doesn't, what fun to play in the dark unless you are playing hide and seek, Ha Ha Ha Hii, WestwingNine months ago, I have a option to buy one of 2 BHs and one having 80+ nest on the lower floor and 10 on the upper floor and the other, having 4 in the lower floor and 50+ in the upper floor. I choose the one with 4 in the lower floor although the BH is the same price because I have the confidence that I will be able to make the lower floor better than the top floor when I solve the problem and the other BH is normal in to my belief. Guess what, I am lucky, after 6 months, I have 100+ in the upper floor and 600+ in the lower floor. Am I lucky, Am I lucky and I must be lucky. Nothing to do with the lighting, maybe the entrance, temperature or humidity or smell problem. Check them out and I maybe wrong and I am still learning to be better and better by trial and error and to learn from you all each time I go on internet . Hopefully, those with good results will share their knowhows and experiences. Lastly, me no sifu, just Swftlet ranger ana a lone ranger Ha Ha Ha I have a problem like you describe there on top. there are 200 nests on the 4th floor but there are only a few 5-8 in lower floor. what is BH? i have another problem with gecko, does gecko kill the bird? how to remove and prevent gecko? anybody know how to differentiate good quality cd sound? i read at the earlier page that test the sound can attract the swiftlet till near the car. i have bought so many cd's but i don't know whether good or not. This post has been edited by Lbert: Jun 28 2008, 10:39 PM |
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Jun 29 2008, 08:14 PM
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1,397 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
Hi Lbert,
I will try to answer some of your questions with the little knowhow that I think I know and hope all the SIFUs out there are not offended. 1. Problems with the lower floor, you need to have spend some time in the floor to understand what you are missing or lack of. I have explain to you what to look for iin my formal suggestion in this forum and it is for you to find out as I am not saint and I need to be there to know what is wrong. You may solve the problem yourslef or you may find someone with experience there or some good consultant to have a look at the problems. 2, Gecko, large one can attack eggs and chicks so you need to get rid of them. Since Gecko is large and you normally can hunt it down or you may buy some lizard bite or poison to get rid of the Gecko. Someone once suggest using a bottle have halffill with sugar water to attract the Gecko to fall into the bottle and thus getting trap. 3. As for quality sound, this you will have to buy from professional or to get from friends from Swiftlet farming. Good or bad, experience will tell and you don't, ask your friends in the buz. Sound and smell play equal importance in sucessful BH and you have 200 nests and what more do you want cos your BH must be quite new as you don't understand the good sound from the bad. So, Sifus, hope I answer alright............. a B+, eh? Added on June 29, 2008, 8:37 pm QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 26 2008, 07:13 PM) Yes, I agreed with you.yscargro. Hey, Swiftbuild............you are alway trying to lure other to your site. Pls try to solve some of their problems at this forum. When you have help them and they will be your friends and will eventually go to your site and look up to you like Sifu. Selling is ok if your products are good. My friend is looking for some good outside CDs and perfumes for his new BH. If you products are good, I will get him to call you personally on the matter. As I told you that my methods are old as me and it never are good for the young rancher who always want immediate result. Birds appear immediately like magic but also disappear like magic, too........ha ha ha just kidding, Mr. Consultants.....just kidding.Oh yes....I am also want if you are giving Free swiftlet CDs and I will love you for it. Sorry not love but like will be appropriate or otherwise I will be banned from this forum and land myself on lover blog. Added on June 29, 2008, 8:56 pmHey swifbuild, I just went to your blog and it's good so those BH owners who want to improve yourself may want to read your Blog. This post has been edited by West Wing: Jun 29 2008, 08:56 PM |
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Jun 29 2008, 10:25 PM
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2 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
Hii.. Mr. West Wing,
i am from indonesia, is the cd sound for swiftlet in malaysia and indonesia not same? i have no idea about sound. and do you know where to buy the "treasure" cd as well? because i think everyone's seem too greedy to share the cd or even sell it. i don't mean to talk others in this member or outside but this is my experience in my hometown. i have done the farm for 6 years and 7 years. ask consultant as well on 1st year but no improvement. i join this forum in hope can get better result and try to learn more from the experienced one and share as well. thx for the reply |
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Jun 29 2008, 11:29 PM
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26 posts Joined: Apr 2008 |
hello all,my name is Sam.I am a retailer of swiftlets farming equipments.My shop is opening on the 1st of July 2008.Please visit http://swiftfarmequipments.blogspot.com .Appreciate comments and please let me know if prices are too high.Thanks and cheers
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Jun 30 2008, 02:14 AM
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427 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Malaysia |
QUOTE(SAMGAN @ Jun 29 2008, 11:29 PM) hello all,my name is Sam.I am a retailer of swiftlets farming equipments.My shop is opening on the 1st of July 2008.Please visit http://swiftfarmequipments.blogspot.com .Appreciate comments and please let me know if prices are too high.Thanks and cheers another shop selling swiftlet equipment up........congrats!!!......not too bad.......but pricy la....any special discount??? hahahahaha |
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Jun 30 2008, 11:13 PM
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1,397 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
QUOTE(yscagro @ Jun 16 2008, 05:59 PM) COol....west wing, small town is not a matter....n most of the swiftlet farming happen in small town!!.... So sorry YSC,you collecting 20kilo each time?? that is huge!!!..... the 20kilo come in 1 unit of ur swiftlet house or in total?? how many swiftlet house you have??? I forget to answer your question 1. 20kilo is from one of my biggest BH and infact, the biggest harvest from that BH that I get was 35 Kilos. I have sold it and from the profits, I bought 3 BHs. 2. At present, I have 4 and maybe 5 soon if everything goes well. 3. Oop, no more question............bye Added on June 30, 2008, 11:19 pm QUOTE(SAMGAN @ Jun 29 2008, 11:29 PM) hello all,my name is Sam.I am a retailer of swiftlets farming equipments.My shop is opening on the 1st of July 2008.Please visit http://swiftfarmequipments.blogspot.com .Appreciate comments and please let me know if prices are too high.Thanks and cheers Hi Samnice to know you so you are a retailer of SFE. So, now we are introduce and are friends..............do I get discount? Shall phone you for any possible of getting cheap BH products.......................always like to try new things...........anyone know about the latest 3G camera phone to install in BH? This post has been edited by West Wing: Jun 30 2008, 11:19 PM |
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Jun 30 2008, 11:58 PM
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863 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: KayTee of BolehLand 2nd Class Citizen |
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Jul 1 2008, 01:51 AM
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427 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Malaysia |
QUOTE(West Wing @ Jun 30 2008, 11:13 PM) So sorry YSC, wau.....35kg frm 1 BH??!! great man.....how much u sold it??? such a great BH.......I forget to answer your question 1. 20kilo is from one of my biggest BH and infact, the biggest harvest from that BH that I get was 35 Kilos. I have sold it and from the profits, I bought 3 BHs. 2. At present, I have 4 and maybe 5 soon if everything goes well. 3. Oop, no more question............bye Added on June 30, 2008, 11:19 pm Hi Sam nice to know you so you are a retailer of SFE. So, now we are introduce and are friends..............do I get discount? Shall phone you for any possible of getting cheap BH products.......................always like to try new things...........anyone know about the latest 3G camera phone to install in BH? u must have getting a very big profit from there....... QUOTE(seeseng @ Jun 30 2008, 11:58 PM) wau, how this thing work seeseng??? |
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Jul 1 2008, 06:21 AM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jun 30 2008, 11:13 PM) So sorry YSC, To yscargo and West Wing,Of course there will be some discounts lo but not much la.You know now everything also go up.If give too much ,later sell 1 ringgit but buy back 1.20 keke.Thanks anyway for comments.cheersI forget to answer your question 1. 20kilo is from one of my biggest BH and infact, the biggest harvest from that BH that I get was 35 Kilos. I have sold it and from the profits, I bought 3 BHs. 2. At present, I have 4 and maybe 5 soon if everything goes well. 3. Oop, no more question............bye Added on June 30, 2008, 11:19 pm Hi Sam nice to know you so you are a retailer of SFE. So, now we are introduce and are friends..............do I get discount? Shall phone you for any possible of getting cheap BH products.......................always like to try new things...........anyone know about the latest 3G camera phone to install in BH? |
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Jul 1 2008, 11:44 AM
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Hello, all sifu, iam new to forum & would like joint u all. i have diy myself a small BH with about 100 birds &30 nests after 15 mths . is it cosider failed? anybody can help me to increase in this .
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Jul 1 2008, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(jefwansk @ Jul 1 2008, 11:44 AM) Hello, all sifu, iam new to forum & would like joint u all. i have diy myself a small BH with about 100 birds &30 nests after 15 mths . is it cosider failed? anybody can help me to increase in this . Hi, 30 nests after 15m........Ok lah and all depend on location and the way you do it. Well, at least you are getting good result althought not really very good. You know alot of new ranchers aren't getting this many nests and some don't even have one. Hey, by the way how do you know how many birds you got? Do you really count the birds flying into your BH and what about the ones you missed? I normally count the nests that I have and determine my improvement in the BH and not by the number of Birds flying in. If the number of birds flying into the BH are flying into the BH are alot more than the nests after some period of time, then we are worried. Although I m no Sifu but will like only to share experience with fellow swiftlets admirers, yo may improve but getting some aroma or perfume to attract more birds to make nest instate of play play only if you have alot of birds entering......................maybe, consultants in the forum can assist you in buying some of these temptation smell....................................... |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jul 1 2008, 12:42 PM) Hi, 30 nests after 15m........Ok lah and all depend on location and the way you do it. Well, at least you are getting good result althought not really very good. You know alot of new ranchers aren't getting this many nests and some don't even have one. Hey, by the way how do you know how many birds you got? Do you really count the birds flying into your BH and what about the ones you missed? I normally count the nests that I have and determine my improvement in the BH and not by the number of Birds flying in. If the number of birds flying into the BH are flying into the BH are alot more than the nests after some period of time, then we are worried. hi west wing.thanks for ur info.Although I m no Sifu but will like only to share experience with fellow swiftlets admirers, yo may improve but getting some aroma or perfume to attract more birds to make nest instate of play play only if you have alot of birds entering......................maybe, consultants in the forum can assist you in buying some of these temptation smell....................................... I count the birds flying in at about 7.00pm and also the nests ,me found that majority with eggs and chick. what type of aroma or mating potion ? should i harvest the nests w/o egg/chick? i need ur advise |
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Jul 1 2008, 02:40 PM
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Jul 1 2008, 07:28 PM
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3G eye,,,about 1 year ago product .cost about 700+ n many places got sell....just plug in an 019 or 012 sim card than plug into ac plug with the converter tat come toghether.DC power n non wire...once u dail the sim card number with yr 3G phone then u can view the places tat u locate the eye,,also can be adjust up,down ,left n right with yr HP.but make sure tat location got 3G coverage.
westwing ah,,,either its Lee talking here or its his son i think.e building sold fr 1.7M tat start at 1.5M right, cause my fren brought it....when count its 3800+pcs n we think its the cheapest bh in this world with those result n much more room to be renovate.either its an worth sell or n worth buy ,u know yr self lah. now have 3 yah n coming another 2 right,,,but i think u will be singing song name "YESTERDAY" |
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Jul 1 2008, 09:24 PM
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Song title: YESTERDAY
Yesterday.....its not the same as today.........today not the same as tomorrow.....laaaaaaaaaaa...la......(Chorus) yesterday........will be history............la..la....laaaaaaa x2 Song composed by The great Kohloh.... Cheer everybody once a while it is fun to have some jokes... kohloh "taw Kay" you really make me laugh. haven't laugh so loud for long time. This post has been edited by swifbuild: Jul 1 2008, 09:26 PM |
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Jul 2 2008, 12:29 AM
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427 posts Joined: Jun 2008 From: Malaysia |
QUOTE(kohloh @ Jul 1 2008, 07:28 PM) 3G eye,,,about 1 year ago product .cost about 700+ n many places got sell....just plug in an 019 or 012 sim card than plug into ac plug with the converter tat come toghether.DC power n non wire...once u dail the sim card number with yr 3G phone then u can view the places tat u locate the eye,,also can be adjust up,down ,left n right with yr HP.but make sure tat location got 3G coverage. what u trying to say?? out of my mind adi..cant catch it....do you mean the 1.7m bought by your fren with 3800+ nest inside is previously owned by westwing??? or some other stories????westwing ah,,,either its Lee talking here or its his son i think.e building sold fr 1.7M tat start at 1.5M right, cause my fren brought it....when count its 3800+pcs n we think its the cheapest bh in this world with those result n much more room to be renovate.either its an worth sell or n worth buy ,u know yr self lah. now have 3 yah n coming another 2 right,,,but i think u will be singing song name "YESTERDAY" blur....kekekeke |
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Jul 2 2008, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(yscagro @ Jul 2 2008, 12:29 AM) what u trying to say?? out of my mind adi..cant catch it....do you mean the 1.7m bought by your fren with 3800+ nest inside is previously owned by westwing??? or some other stories???? noting much to say lah,,,,many understand this story cause many players also know about this deal,,,,no need to blur cause u got the story rightblur....kekekeke sensetive so up to here only,,,, |
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Jul 2 2008, 07:07 PM
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863 posts Joined: Nov 2005 From: KayTee of BolehLand 2nd Class Citizen |
In my humble opinion multi channel DVR with infra-red cameras + broadband internet access is more practical than 3G EYE. Personally I'm selling both 3G EYE and DVR with IR cams at my shop for RM750 each. The only good thing is it's fairly easy to set up. Just insert a 3G activated sim card. Owner's 3G mobile phone will have to sms a specific code for authentication. Not all 3G phones can access to the 3G EYE. Only owner's phone and few other numbers that owner allowed and set into the system. The IR lens can be controlled left and right but not up and down. Up and down have to manually set by hand. Note that the 3G signal must be strong enaugh to initiate video calls. The recording memory is limited to size of T-Flash memory card. If only want to install 1 cam then 3G EYE is ok. For those who want to install 4 or more camera channels then DVR is more econimical.
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Jul 2 2008, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(kohloh @ Jul 2 2008, 06:25 PM) noting much to say lah,,,,many understand this story cause many players also know about this deal,,,,no need to blur cause u got the story right ops...ok!...up to heresensetive so up to here only,,,, QUOTE(seeseng @ Jul 2 2008, 07:07 PM) In my humble opinion multi channel DVR with infra-red cameras + broadband internet access is more practical than 3G EYE. Personally I'm selling both 3G EYE and DVR with IR cams at my shop for RM750 each. The only good thing is it's fairly easy to set up. Just insert a 3G activated sim card. Owner's 3G mobile phone will have to sms a specific code for authentication. Not all 3G phones can access to the 3G EYE. Only owner's phone and few other numbers that owner allowed and set into the system. The IR lens can be controlled left and right but not up and down. Up and down have to manually set by hand. Note that the 3G signal must be strong enaugh to initiate video calls. The recording memory is limited to size of T-Flash memory card. If only want to install 1 cam then 3G EYE is ok. For those who want to install 4 or more camera channels then DVR is more econimical. hi seeseng, those product u hav sound interesting...im looking for a set of alarm system n those stuff...mayb u can help me up....where r u from? mayb we can meet up n get some idea from you.... |
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