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mangoman
post Apr 15 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:31 PM)
Hi bro, just wondering, for a new hire to be eligible for bonus, apart from being confirmed, does he or she need to work "more than 6 months" or "at least 6 months"? Just wondering as I will be starting on 1st July, meaning it won't be in the "more than" category.
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Highly unlikely but even if there is, it will be pro-rated. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 16 2013, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Apr 15 2013, 10:36 PM)
Highly unlikely but even if there is, it will be pro-rated. biggrin.gif
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Thanks bro. Of course it will be pro-rated, I ask because I heard that 6 months of working for that particular year will be eligible for bonus, except I'm not sure whether I must exceed the 6 months or at least 6 months.
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post Apr 16 2013, 01:58 PM

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is there any vacancy for any legal related position?
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post Apr 16 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Apr 14 2013, 08:27 PM)
If I am not mistaken, petronas contribute 13% to EPF.

Once confirmed it is increased to 15%. After 5 years up 17% and after 10 years up to 19%. That is max. This is based on PIPE module.
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But on my list, they stated that below 5years, EPF from employer is only 7%. after 5 years, 13% if im not mistaken. why so low??????!
confius, or maybe i was misslook??
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post Apr 16 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(baizuddin @ Apr 16 2013, 02:52 PM)
But on my list, they stated that below 5years, EPF from employer is only 7%. after 5 years, 13% if im not mistaken. why so low??????!
confius, or maybe i was misslook??
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This is what stated in my benefits attached with my offer letter, so it should be the most recent:

<5 years = 3% additional
5 - 9 years = 5% additional
>10 = 7 % additional
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post Apr 16 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(baizuddin @ Apr 16 2013, 02:52 PM)
But on my list, they stated that below 5years, EPF from employer is only 7%. after 5 years, 13% if im not mistaken. why so low??????!
confius, or maybe i was misslook??
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isn't employer need to contribute at least 13%? it's the rule, right?
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QUOTE(yogurt7 @ Apr 16 2013, 03:25 PM)
isn't employer need to contribute at least 13%? it's the rule, right?
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Mandatory employer contribution:

13% for < RM5000
12% for > RM5000
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post Apr 16 2013, 05:22 PM

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so that means if salary >5K

<5 years = mandatory 12% + 3% additional = 15%
5 - 9 years = mandatory 12% + 5% additional = 17%
>10 = mandatory 12% + 7 % additional = 19%

wow.. so lucky u guys.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(shadow_calamity @ Apr 16 2013, 05:22 PM)
so that means if salary >5K

<5 years = mandatory 12% + 3% additional = 15%
5 - 9 years = mandatory 12% + 5% additional = 17%
>10 = mandatory 12% + 7 % additional = 19%

wow.. so lucky u guys..  notworthy.gif
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Correct.
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post Apr 16 2013, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:31 PM)
Hi bro, just wondering, for a new hire to be eligible for bonus, apart from being confirmed, does he or she need to work "more than 6 months" or "at least 6 months"? Just wondering as I will be starting on 1st July, meaning it won't be in the "more than" category.
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I don't think u will get bonus for 2013. Unless u confirm before 2013end. Your bonus will be pro rated based on days after confirmation. If u can push hr to make ujoin petronas in may or june, u will confirm before 2013 end and u r eligible for bonus. Since i am confirmed in march 2013, i dont get any this year. It is the same for my friend who confirmed in early january 2013. Don't hope too much until u r confirmed.

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post Apr 16 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(klein @ Apr 15 2013, 06:47 PM)
Is it possible for someone who has failed SI (interviewed for a position in one of the OPUs) before to go through another SI and be accepted to fill up a position in another OPU in less than a year since first SI??
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does anyone know the answer to this? thanks.
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post Apr 16 2013, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(alhakam88 @ Apr 16 2013, 08:41 PM)
I don't think u will get bonus for 2013. Unless u confirm before 2013end. Your bonus will be pro rated based on days after confirmation. If u can push hr to make ujoin petronas in may or june, u will confirm before 2013 end and u r eligible for bonus. Since i am confirmed in march 2013, i dont get any this year. It is the same for my friend who confirmed in early january 2013. Don't hope too much until u r confirmed.
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I know about confirmation and pro-rated stuffs, I've worked with 5 companies before joining PETRONAS. Thanks anyway.

Seems like no one can answer my question. Never mind then I'll just let it pass, not hoping for anything just being curious.

This post has been edited by aiman04: Apr 16 2013, 09:16 PM
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post Apr 16 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Apr 16 2013, 09:15 PM)
I know about confirmation and pro-rated stuffs, I've worked with 5 companies before joining PETRONAS. Thanks anyway.

Seems like no one can answer my question. Never mind then I'll just let it pass, not hoping for anything just being curious.
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Sorry bro, you know in PETRONAS especially related to HR matters, there are so many unwritten rules that no one can explain why/how. Just like we had adjustment early this year due to changes in the job grade structure, everyone gets different amount but nobody knows exactly how the value is determined.
So my advice is, don't take anything for granted until the money has been banked in to your account. It works all the time. smile.gif
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hye guys..

just want to share..

i got my 1st interview in middle of december with one of the OPU..then, after a while..did my SI on 7th FEB..its quite a long time since need to ding dong with KLCC..

then.. i know my results within one week..but still didnt receive any GL from KLCC to do for medical checkup since the OPU said that need to wait for KL to give GL.. until..the HOD himself call me to ask on progress in middle march and quite shocked since I didnt proceed for medical yet.. then, maybe he pushed for the HR, KL issued the GL on 20th Mar.. i asked them to change the hospital from PCMC to hospital near to my house in southern region..

After 3 days, i knew the results since I make friend with the nurse there.haha.. and parcel arrived at KLCC by next week.. then, I said to KL to issued my offer letter asap because if not, I will need months of tender letter..

and my offer letter was issued in first week of april..KL shipped out the offer letter package to my house. filled up and sent back. I did email the KL HR regarding something that I was not clear regarding the numerous forms and HR did reply asap. i mean less than one hour because I said that i will sent out by the same day to catch the deadline. nod.gif

Conclusion: for my case, they will move faster when there is urgency. or got push for expedite from OPU or perhaps your future boss.

bro azreil or anyone; i have one questions, if i were transferred to East malaysia, what is the possibilities to be transferred to KLCC? I mean, is it possible?hmm.. because i myself dont want to stuck too long at EM..huu.. (future boss already warned me, in future after working 3 years dont ask me to transfer you to KL..at least you need 5 years here..then he gelak).. my future post is instrument.

thanks a lot:)
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(aiman04 @ Apr 16 2013, 04:15 PM)
I know about confirmation and pro-rated stuffs, I've worked with 5 companies before joining PETRONAS. Thanks anyway.

Seems like no one can answer my question. Never mind then I'll just let it pass, not hoping for anything just being curious.
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I know for a fact that if you miss the cut-off date even for 1 day (for promotion, merit, bonus or what not), PETRONAS HR will really follow the rule to the letter in not giving you those things ....

Knowledge is power and Petronas HR likes their power and therefore they keep all the necessary policies etc close to their chests. I had an executive handbook before which probably have not been updated for ages. I think I wrote somewhere my current company Industrial Relations Manual which is 17 chapters long with 7 appendixes and we have 7 different payrolls. I love it because it's all transparent and if you have any questions with regards to anything (your entitlement etc etc), you just send a query to personnel and they will respond with the necessary clarifications. And the IR Manual is updated regularly (at the minimum every quarter) and any changes to policies will be updated in the IR Manual as well. They will even inform you which paragraph, in which chapter changes have been made. They put the IR Manual on the intranet so you can always download the PDF version and read it at your leisure

Think PETRONAS HR will do that ??? ....

This post has been edited by azraeil: Apr 17 2013, 12:35 AM
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post Apr 17 2013, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Apr 17 2013, 12:34 AM)
I know for a fact that if you miss the cut-off date even for 1 day (for promotion, merit, bonus or what not), PETRONAS HR will really follow the rule to the letter in not giving you those things ....

Knowledge is power and Petronas HR likes their power and therefore they keep all the necessary policies etc close to their chests. I had an executive handbook before which probably have not been updated for ages. I think I wrote somewhere my current company Industrial Relations Manual which is 17 chapters long with 7 appendixes and we have 7 different payrolls. I love it because it's all transparent and if you have any questions with regards to anything (your entitlement etc etc), you just send a query to personnel and they will respond with the necessary clarifications. And the IR Manual is updated regularly (at the minimum every quarter) and any changes to policies will be updated in the IR Manual as well. They will even inform you which paragraph, in which chapter changes have been made. They put the IR Manual on the intranet so you can always download the PDF version and read it at your leisure

Think PETRONAS HR will do that ??? ....
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I agree that there are many unwritten hr policies. Last time, during the on introduction session with hr, they said there is no more technical allowance. Since no more technical allowance, hr can deny any salary adjustment for new technical staff. No wrjtten policy for the increment. Then hr is not obligatory to do the adjustment.

Until recently,some new staff bring this issue to the management. Only then they just started looking into it. Some of them had waited for more than 6 months after one year. Still dont get it.

Seem that this issue due to disatifaction if non technical staff to the technical allowance and salary grouping according to tier.
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post Apr 17 2013, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Apr 16 2013, 11:39 PM)
Sorry bro, you know in PETRONAS especially related to HR matters, there are so many unwritten rules that no one can explain why/how. Just like we had adjustment early this year due to changes in the job grade structure, everyone gets different amount but nobody knows exactly how the value is determined.
So my advice is, don't take anything for granted until the money has been banked in to your account. It works all the time. smile.gif
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Yeah bro, I'm not expecting anything. Was just being curious. I have a bond to repay my current company if I leave early, that is why I delayed my reporting date to PETRONAS. Was just looking at all the possible scenarios, but never mind as either way I will still be at the losing end. Leave early I have to pay the bond so I'm hoping for some compensation in the form of that bonus, leave after the bond term ended I don't have to pay but no bonus for sure. No big deal. Thank you for your answers. smile.gif

QUOTE(azraeil @ Apr 17 2013, 12:34 AM)
I know for a fact that if you miss the cut-off date even for 1 day (for promotion, merit, bonus or what not), PETRONAS HR will really follow the rule to the letter in not giving you those things ....

Knowledge is power and Petronas HR likes their power and therefore they keep all the necessary policies etc close to their chests. I had an executive handbook before which probably have not been updated for ages. I think I wrote somewhere my current company Industrial Relations Manual which is 17 chapters long with 7 appendixes and we have 7 different payrolls. I love it because it's all transparent and if you have any questions with regards to anything (your entitlement etc etc), you just send a query to personnel and they will respond with the necessary clarifications. And the IR Manual is updated regularly (at the minimum every quarter) and any changes to policies will be updated in the IR Manual as well. They will even inform you which paragraph, in which chapter changes have been made. They put the IR Manual on the intranet so you can always download the PDF version and read it at your leisure

Think PETRONAS HR will do that ??? ....
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Yup, I can see that. And based on their crazy game with me from the first interview until now (still haven't received revised offer letter with new starting date), the answer is an easy NO. tongue.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(yogurt7 @ Apr 16 2013, 03:25 PM)
isn't employer need to contribute at least 13%? it's the rule, right?
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Thanks bro. now i can smile back. brows.gif
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post Apr 17 2013, 05:58 PM

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Talked to Petronas HR that they may not be able to offer my expected salary as some of my allowances are not stated in my current job scope/payslip. Too bad... may get lower salary now. BUT still lucky to get in!

This post has been edited by icerainyy: Apr 17 2013, 05:59 PM
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I think this thread is slowly turning into another HR bashing thread. tongue.gif

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