All i know is:

Shadow Priest > Mage

Holy Priest < Mage

Warlocks > Mage

how about a duel with both of you naked except for weapons? now it's just talent build and skills and weapon stats.

i agree with limsk. we can make a tempory guild in one of the servers to see this fight.

that has to be the dumbest way of dueling lmao...

so long i pop the cheapshot, any naked opponent i stab with my weapons WILL die within 8 seconds. hell, ive even killed shamans, mail, decently decked, with shield, in around 9 seconds.

cheapshot > trinket mutilate kidney shot coldblood mutilate evis (assassination 4th piece makes the evis possible)
the kidney shot is almost guranteed 5 combo (75% chance)
my evis is almost guranteed 4combo (60% chance)

only counter? trinket my kidney or cheapshot, or resilience/stamina decked and survive 9 seconds.

saw my mutilate screenshot? lmao

Agree!

But the debate here is about a holy priest beating a non fel pup non full demo lock when both are with similar gears. So I guess it will be the closest to "fair" in test realms

if you havent noticed test server given equips are pve based. priest pve based = heal, while locks no matter pve or pvp their role are just dps.

if you want anything fair, i can either:
1) use my rogue to prove my credibility

or

2) somehow get blizz to provide priest premade characters pvp based equips

or

3) get me a decked pvp gear equipped priest to copy to PTR

i'm sorry, what does this means?

www.dictionary.com sir!

cred·i·ble /ˈkrɛdəbəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kred-uh-buhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
-adjective 1. capable of being believed; believable: a credible statement.
2. worthy of belief or confidence; trustworthy: a credible witness.


so that means by showing us your rogue, we are supposed to believe that whatever you say is credible and should be taken upon as true facts just cos urmm, u got nice loots?

EDIT : it's not that i don't understand, it's just that i'm actually trying to see if it's what you really meant.

This post has been edited by sets84: Mar 28 2007, 12:45 PM

the above replies wanted action (a duel?) because up till now its all talk.

and thus my above reply.

and my rogue is already shown(armory thread), so if you've read that thread you would've know that this isnt the issue.

but what has a rogue got to do with a holy priest vs lock duel? Or are we just talking about all class vs all other classes now?

wow
in that case then maybe i should go ask my guild rogue.

EDIT : removed his name, as I see no point in helping him flexing his electronic manhood

This post has been edited by sets84: Mar 28 2007, 02:24 PM

because i dont have a priest? unless you want to duel my lvl15 guild bank.

i could use sichiri's priest (and ive used his priest to pvp quite a lot before and its pretty fun ^^) but atm hes only lvl66

guess you both missed my point?

I'm actually still missing the point...

right now a duel to prove all the talking done is called out right?

so now i dont have a priest.

only way to get one is PTR, but as ive said PTR gears are pve focused instead of PVP.

and thus i listed the options above, which are unlikely to happen

so since you don't have a priest and unless you can get a priest, you're going to use your rogue as your credibility cushion to prove that i'm wrong and you're right based on what was shown on your armory? or maybe your mutilate crit?

LMAO ~!!!!!

btw i tot the one has a priest is shopboy ?
why not ask his priest come and due with sets84 warlock ?
to show that his priest HOLY spec can beat a warlock without fel pup..

well i will copy my character to come and watch that duel ..
this is the best way to prove things isnt it ?
and then again lol

Quazacolt you dont have a priest and u trying to tell us that u understand priest alot ? or u played someones priest before then u feel its easy ? lol
if thats the case ur forsure to lose even if there is a lvl 70 priest for u to test in the test realms.

afterall SKILL > gears
i wearing D1 set doing BWL ...before TBC
wearing the warlords set doing shadowlabs thats after TBC

conclusion is that gears help a lil .. but even if u got gears no skill ... its wtfpwn by mobs ~!

there is option 2 and 3, perhaps ur too absorbed to see them.

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Added on March 28, 2007, 6:00 pmkyogezsho: indeed skill > gears that i dont deny but my point here is that to have a fair duel, i cant be doing it with healing/pve gears on the priest right? else the point of the whole duel would be void.

and ive played sichiri's priest before pre bc, but thats that. post bc i wont be able to push a priest's capabilities to its fullest, but i believe i wont be entirely helpless either, and given that, i am at an extreme disadvantage right? honestly speaking i dont mind, and i would see it as a challenge to beat sets with the disadvantages given to me. if i dont beat him, he proves his points valid, no biggie. if i win, not only i make my point clear, i gain mega epeen, big win right here

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Mar 28 2007, 06:00 PM

what can you do with your mage large epeen?

to fling it around in front of us, that's what!

he is smartie man.