QUOTE(gunners_my @ Apr 13 2017, 10:46 AM)
Which reminds me, my cotton has finally started to taste shitty enough for me to wanna change it lol. Last rewick was before Japan in late March.About 2 weeks and a half to EOL. Not bad.
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Apr 13 2017, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Apr 13 2017, 09:07 AM) But, sometimes we can't compares the SX Mini G with IPV8.. pricing wise, both are from different planet. So, the only thing I can conclude is .. don't buy YIHI's cheap stuff. On a sidenote, my aromamizer plus is finally almost at my friend's place! 13 Apr 2017, 10:59:37AM MAIL PROCESSING CENTER JOHOR Delivery process Yay can't wait! My juices are still stuck at customs though, no idea whats gonna happen, hope it doesn't affect my friend. 4/10/2017 - Monday 3:56 pm Clearance delay - Import SEPANG MY Monday till now :/ |
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Apr 13 2017, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Apr 13 2017, 09:16 AM) bro.. the only thing i notice the was surface looks ok, just the taste slightly went off and the ohm reading was still kinda intact and not jumping around. so, really confused. Initially I thought was the cotton. changed to new cotton, same. Those days with khantal, hardly got this problem. I mean, khantal easily last me whole month. So, this is the only setback on SS on my side. Apart from that, there's really no way back for me on SS... QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 13 2017, 09:39 AM) Well, you see those black flecks that drop off when you wash your coils, especially the really flat, one dimensional looking ones? They MIGHT not just burnt off gunk (and carbonised wicking material), hence the importance of properly washing off dryburnt coils. Never washed a dryburned coil before...a few light strokes of a wire brush does the trick, and I don't have to think about thermal shock.TBH though, I'm still reading up on material thermodynamics to see what pitting is all about (it's fairly complicated), so I might be wrong. To be fair, once the coils have pitted enough it WILL start to fluctuate badly resistance-wise (and by extension, work liek shiat for TC) so yeah, I'm sticking to resistance flux as my Coil EOL (end of life) indicator for now. If metal is flaking off the coil already, it stands to reason there MAY be some particles in the vapor u inhale. |
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TIL we must change wick every 3 days at least.
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Apr 13 2017, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Apr 13 2017, 04:56 PM) Lol. That's pretty much dependant on the juice and setup you have bro. My wicks last for few weeks on average and a month if I get lucky lol.andyng38 True. To be honest though the more I read up about SS pitting the more I get a headache lol. Supposedly it's something like this, at least as per wiki: ![]() Keeping in mind that SS is Iron/Carbon/Nickel/Chromium (or sumthang liek dat) and its actually immersed in e-liquid... you can probably expect the interactions to be FAR more complex then the simple Iron and humid air example above. But yeah, material engineering (or chemistry) isn't really my forte so I'll just keep things to that point, in deference to any engineer out there with better knowledge over what happens when a chunk of SS pits due to to heat. This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 05:28 PM |
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Apr 13 2017, 05:29 PM) Try spacing yr SS coils...slightly slower ramp-up compared to contact coils but that can be compensated for in preheat. I did, bro.. all the whole, I did spacing although i hate it as more troublesome.. Never washed a dryburned coil before...a few light strokes of a wire brush does the trick, and I don't have to think about thermal shock. If metal is flaking off the coil already, it stands to reason there MAY be some particles in the vapor u inhale. |
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 13 2017, 05:06 PM) Lol. That's pretty much dependant on the juice and setup you have bro. My wicks last for few weeks on average and a month if I get lucky lol. What's ur coil and wick material to get few weeks in. @.@andyng38 True. To be honest though the more I read up about SS pitting the more I get a headache lol. Supposedly it's something like this, at least as per wiki: ![]() Keeping in mind that SS is Iron/Carbon/Nickel/Chromium (or sumthang liek dat) and its actually immersed in e-liquid... you can probably expect the interactions to be FAR more complex then the simple Iron and humid air example above. But yeah, material engineering (or chemistry) isn't really my forte so I'll just keep things to that point, in deference to any engineer out there with better knowledge over what happens when a chunk of SS pits due to to heat. |
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Apr 13 2017, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Apr 13 2017, 05:58 PM) SS316L dual coils, spaced single strand + Kendo cotton. Juice is Naked 100, which is particularly clean for something that's not unflavoured. 50w, 480-500f. And yeah, seems that spaced coils DO help keep things running slightly longer. Also slightly bigger surface area and more even heating IMHO vs contact coils. Myself my builds are all spaced, even the exotic wire ones. Props to andyng38 for suggesting spaced coils to me almost a year ago, even if I was kinda sorta sceptical myself back then. Haven't been running contact coils ever since lol. This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 06:27 PM |
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 13 2017, 06:22 PM) SS316L dual coils, spaced single strand + Kendo cotton. Juice is Naked 100, which is particularly clean for something that's not unflavoured. 50w, 480-500f. What coils have you tried spacing so far? Interested to try with my next fused clapton! Never tried any spaced builds with any of my non-regular builds yet.And yeah, seems that spaced coils DO help keep things running slightly longer. Also slightly bigger surface area and more even heating IMHO vs contact coils. Myself my builds are all spaced, even the exotic wire ones. Props to andyng38 for suggesting spaced coils to me almost a year ago, even if I was kinda sorta sceptical myself back then. Haven't been running contact coils ever since lol. |
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QUOTE(botakchek @ Apr 13 2017, 06:39 PM) What coils have you tried spacing so far? Interested to try with my next fused clapton! Never tried any spaced builds with any of my non-regular builds yet. Nothing too fancy, and actually it's easier to have a slight gap in coils made with more complex wire to begin with rather than to have them fully in contact lol. Personally I've run full 316 SS Fused Claps and Twisted-2 316 only (for my Hastur and Velo respectively) spaced, nothing fancier... simply because I didn't want to deal with the ramp-up of even more complex wire builds. On the other hand, snake1983's been recommending Notch for a while for something with a high performance/convenience ratio. I'm definitely curious and feel like trying, provided I could find any Notches that would fit my setups. This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 10:04 PM |
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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Apr 13 2017, 05:56 PM) I did, bro.. all the whole, I did spacing although i hate it as more troublesome.. Hmm...intriguing this problem is.Damn...typing like yoda i am! OK...let's rule out the physical condition of the coil, and contact coils as possible causes. Now let's try to eliminate other possible reasons for it. Try SS and kanthal coils (just plain wire, no claptons/aliens/twisted pair etc) on the same model dripper using same type of cotton, juice and if possible, same wattage on the same mod. Give each build equal vaping time. If after a week the SS build starts to taste funky again while the kanthal is still ok, that would probably mean that SS's "cleaner" taste allows you to feel that difference. I do know how irksome such a mystery as yours can become. It's like an itch u can't scratch. Speaking for myself, I'd not bother to go to such a great length. Vaping is meant to be enjoyed, and too much pondering over minutiae could detract from it. Just install fresh SS coils every week, rock the kanthal for a month+ and savor the clouds! |
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Apr 13 2017, 11:19 PM) I do know how irksome such a mystery as yours can become. It's like an itch u can't scratch. This is also true. Think less vape more. Speaking for myself, I'd not bother to go to such a great length. Vaping is meant to be enjoyed, and too much pondering over minutiae could detract from it. Just install fresh SS coils every week, rock the kanthal for a month+ and savor the clouds! That said, the minutiae still tickles the curiosity nonetheless, even when we all know how the cat turned out following that line of thought... This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 14 2017, 01:59 AM |
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You need a big deck to fit in the single notch coil is 4mm size any velo deck should be fit-able. Definitely need to give it a try.
0.26ohm resistance Large Surface Area Stainless Steel Heating Element Non-Resistant Nickel Wire Leads Coil dimensions (approx): 4.7mm Inner Diameter, 8.9mm Wide Leads (approx) 20mm in length Notch coils is the latest innovation in coil technology. Using stainless steel heating element (versus the traditional kanthal), it promises cleaner flavour and faster ramp up times. The ramp up is the quickest I ever seen. This post has been edited by snake1983: Apr 14 2017, 02:55 AM |
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 14 2017, 01:57 AM) This is also true. Think less vape more. Once knew a comely lass who kinda reminded me of Schrodinger's cat....I'd never know if her pussy was dead or alive until I opened her box That said, the minutiae still tickles the curiosity nonetheless, even when we all know how the cat turned out following that line of thought... |
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On the topic of notch coils, I tried them with the theorem when it came out and was not particularly impressed, especially with the longevity of the coils.
IIRC, ijoy has some 'tss' coils which are basically smaller I.D. notch coils, maybe you can give those a try? |
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Apr 14 2017, 12:19 AM) Hmm...intriguing this problem is. Bro, good point. actually, my motive of bringing up this problem is due to my laziness.. I am a super lazy fella. Those days with khantal, I just need to change my cotton daily while changing my coil once in a month. Not to mention those days that the recoil part was so much easier (simple setup). These days, especially with my no 1 RDA O-Atty, it's a real pain to change coil. Damn...typing like yoda i am! OK...let's rule out the physical condition of the coil, and contact coils as possible causes. Now let's try to eliminate other possible reasons for it. Try SS and kanthal coils (just plain wire, no claptons/aliens/twisted pair etc) on the same model dripper using same type of cotton, juice and if possible, same wattage on the same mod. Give each build equal vaping time. If after a week the SS build starts to taste funky again while the kanthal is still ok, that would probably mean that SS's "cleaner" taste allows you to feel that difference. I do know how irksome such a mystery as yours can become. It's like an itch u can't scratch. Speaking for myself, I'd not bother to go to such a great length. Vaping is meant to be enjoyed, and too much pondering over minutiae could detract from it. Just install fresh SS coils every week, rock the kanthal for a month+ and savor the clouds! But.. come to think about that.. yes, the SS "cleaner" might be the reason behind it. |
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