Yay new house. Time for moar heated discussionings lol.

Seems on their FB they're focusing more on their alternate brands now (Godzilla juice et al) coz, sounds like they've had enough of people "copying" them lol.

Doesn't really matter to me coz I don't normally do local juices either (too much sweeteners/cooling agents, too little nic) but it was fun to dig out why.

My soul is firmly invested in Schwartz's Naked line now lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 03:46 PM

Errrr... Mmmkay?

Anyway, moving on, I'm actually looking forward to the upcoming Ammit Duals. I mean, postless GMv3 rival from GeekVape?

*Insert Futurama Fry take all my money meme here*

Not to mention how well rated the single Ammits seem to be, including Abam TristanX's rather positive recent post.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 05:22 PM

The Wotofo Conqueror comes to mind as of of the "earlier" postless designs. But "mini" postless dual coil tanks are hard to come by... annnd this is exactly what he Ammit is, thus it being a GMv3 rival in my book.

TBH, it's kinda huge at 25/27mm, but I'm not running a Pico any more so I'm not locked to 22/23mm. But it's still pretty short and the side air seems to be quite good to combat against leakage.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 06:10 PM

Any of Naked 100's fruity or candy juices should do, if you don't mind spending a tad more on imported juices (and if you don't mind the more... conservative levels of flavoring/sweeteners in them).

They're not too bad though price-wise on Shopee, especially if you can catch sellers throwing them under market price.

That said, skip Lava Flow if you don't want others commenting on the smell. It's my favourite from the line and it tastes like heaven but EVERYONE will be able to tell that you have had some lately lol. It's probably one of the strongest (but pleasant, thankfully) smelling fruit juices I've EVER had.

Hawaiian POG (my second in line recommended N100 juice)/Green Blast seems to have a less noticeable "exhaust" signature, BTW.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 06:41 PM

While that is a valid point, like every other hobby, there might be lessons to be gained from advancing a step at a time. Especially with something as complicated as Vaping.

The journey is probably just as (or maybe even more) important as the end result, simply as a Vaper needs the experience gained to define the kind of Vaper he is anyway. I mean, if everyone vapes the same, we should all be walking around with Provaris and Kayfuns in hand by now.

That said, I don't condone starting out blindly either - at least mod wise.

Personally I say get a Joyetech-chipped mod... ANY of them, they perform about the same both in TC and Wattage (that is, decently) and use the hell out of that to start with.

If your JT mod grows insufficient, and you want more "tinkering"/customization (and installing ArticWolf isn't scratching your itch any more)... get a mass market (not Boutique yer) DNA device.

If you still need to go up, then MAYBE get a Dicodes/Procyon/Whatever Boutique Stabwood DNA that Catches Your Fancy... but at this point you should already understand that past a mass market DNA device, you mostly only get diminishing returns, performance wise.

As for the costs incurred doing things this way, well, you don't expect to learn more and advance as a Vaper for free, don't you? Think of it as tuition costs, which shouldn't be CRAZY MAHALZ anyway if you keep yourself rational and only get stuff you really need along the way.

It'll be less cheap than a one shot buy of the best out there, but if you're gonna vape for any long amount of time, the "best" is not really gonna stay on top for that long either and it's gonna be outclassed by something or another within a year or two anyway.

So yeah.

However, YMMV. Horses for courses people, my opinion is of course just that and doesn't necessarily apply to all lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 07:38 PM

Yihi's place is somewhere next to the DNAs... besides, if you've vaped long enough to want a DNA, you will of course be aware of the existence of Yihi chips already, ammarite?

That's just a simplified progress chart lol.

Though personally I prefer DNA's "keep it simple on the mod and do the crazy stuff on your PC" vs Yihi's (and to a lesser extent, Dicode's) "lets just put EVERYTHING in here" approach myself.

kayent Orrrrr you can just drip with a TC coil and use Temp Protect to keep you aware of your wicks drying up. It doesn't work 100% (you still get a whiff of Satan's underbrush) but at least TC Temp Protect will ensure that you won't burn straight through a dry wick in a momentary lapse of focus.

That said, most TC chips do have SOME issues making sense out of more complex full-TC coil setups (twisted, claps, aliens). Even my Joytech Mods sometime get kicked straight out of TC with some of my 316 dual-clap drippers.

In comparison, my DNAs do a lot better, as long as you punch in the required wire csv for the specific Clapton type used.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 09:28 PM

Computer lol. DNA Mods are computer configurable, to a frightening degree, through the eScribe software.

Once fully setup to your needs, you don't really require a computer for it though, unless you need to punch in a new wire csv or tweak a profile (which TBH never really happens once you've got it setup to your liking fully).

Yihi stuff has computer software as well, but I'm not sure if it's as configurable as DNA chips.

Where they both differ is I don't really think you need a PC to fully tweak a Yihi device at all - whereas a DNA device is practically crippled without access to a computer as far as tweaking goes.



This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 09:42 PM

Well to each their own, which is partly the beauty of Vaping to begin with.

I personally find that, when properly setup, my "simple" TC setups give me the least pain lol. Just isi and vape and rewick when needed.

Not to mention my SS coils last an eternity lol... the coils I have on right now have gone to Japan and back TWICE already: Once late last year with my Pico and then in late March with my Nano.

But that's just me. Some might not like the boring, moderated delivery of a TC coil anyway. Also, like I said before, running "complex" TC coils can be a PITA, especially on less sensitive Mods.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 09:50 PM

Not sure lol. I just dryburn my coils and change JUST the wicks every time the flavor drops. I only really change my coils once it breaks or once the resistance reading goes haywire.

Just to put it out there, this is in regards to my ADV setup: Dual plain spaced coils at 0.4 ohms, 50w 500f, Naked 100 Lava Flow in the GMv3 with Kendo Gold cotton. On the Pico until March when the Pico broke and was replaced by the Nano.

Every time I rewick the Kendo cotton takes time to "break in" and achieve full flavour but yeah, my coils have been the same two 316 coils since November last year AT LEAST, with no real loss of performance except maybe a very slight increase in TC quirkiness (but not yet to the point of needing a replacement in my book).

So yeah. Not sure why your TC coils are lasting a week. Maybe you're just that much more sensitive to the coils changing flavour?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 12 2017, 10:31 PM

Well, you see those black flecks that drop off when you wash your coils, especially the really flat, one dimensional looking ones? They MIGHT not just burnt off gunk (and carbonised wicking material), hence the importance of properly washing off dryburnt coils.

TBH though, I'm still reading up on material thermodynamics to see what pitting is all about (it's fairly complicated), so I might be wrong.

To be fair, once the coils have pitted enough it WILL start to fluctuate badly resistance-wise (and by extension, work liek shiat for TC) so yeah, I'm sticking to resistance flux as my Coil EOL (end of life) indicator for now.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 09:54 AM

At least that's what I do personally, dry burn in Power mode. I do think it's because it's in a dripper that you can so quickly discern the taste going off.

Also, it seems like an orange glow is as far as you would want to dry burn SS... going as far as cherry red glow might give out some weird off taste as a result of he SS oxidising or something, which in turn goes into the wick and vapour afterwards and gives you a certain metallic taste.

Specifically why, I have no idea, but it's an often enough repeated anecdote across the Internet to be of significant importance IMHO.

Also, if you get a hot leg or something and it glows past white until a leg (or any part of the coil) breaks off (melts), throw the coil+leg away and wash the whole deck throughly. Melting SS = hexavalent chromium and no, you don't wanna vape that.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 10:35 AM

Which reminds me, my cotton has finally started to taste shitty enough for me to wanna change it lol. Last rewick was before Japan in late March.

About 2 weeks and a half to EOL. Not bad.

Lol. That's pretty much dependant on the juice and setup you have bro. My wicks last for few weeks on average and a month if I get lucky lol.

andyng38 True. To be honest though the more I read up about SS pitting the more I get a headache lol. Supposedly it's something like this, at least as per wiki:



Keeping in mind that SS is Iron/Carbon/Nickel/Chromium (or sumthang liek dat) and its actually immersed in e-liquid... you can probably expect the interactions to be FAR more complex then the simple Iron and humid air example above.

But yeah, material engineering (or chemistry) isn't really my forte so I'll just keep things to that point, in deference to any engineer out there with better knowledge over what happens when a chunk of SS pits due to to heat.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 05:28 PM

SS316L dual coils, spaced single strand + Kendo cotton. Juice is Naked 100, which is particularly clean for something that's not unflavoured. 50w, 480-500f.

And yeah, seems that spaced coils DO help keep things running slightly longer. Also slightly bigger surface area and more even heating IMHO vs contact coils.

Myself my builds are all spaced, even the exotic wire ones. Props to andyng38 for suggesting spaced coils to me almost a year ago, even if I was kinda sorta sceptical myself back then.

Haven't been running contact coils ever since lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 06:27 PM

Nothing too fancy, and actually it's easier to have a slight gap in coils made with more complex wire to begin with rather than to have them fully in contact lol.

Personally I've run full 316 SS Fused Claps and Twisted-2 316 only (for my Hastur and Velo respectively) spaced, nothing fancier... simply because I didn't want to deal with the ramp-up of even more complex wire builds.

On the other hand, snake1983's been recommending Notch for a while for something with a high performance/convenience ratio. I'm definitely curious and feel like trying, provided I could find any Notches that would fit my setups.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 13 2017, 10:04 PM

This is also true. Think less vape more.

That said, the minutiae still tickles the curiosity nonetheless, even when we all know how the cat turned out following that line of thought...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 14 2017, 01:59 AM

Vaping = Spycraft?

But yeah, Spore should have just taxed the hell out of Vaping if they were smart. Or just do what the Japanese do and only ban SALES of nic juices without banning import for personal use (aka 120ml one trip), if so gatal wanna ban.

But no, total ban. Hence a new Black Market is born, which means zero oversight and zero profits. Even more, lost revenue due to the need for enforcement. Pandai.

Similarly our KKM wanting to ban nic juices altogether come July. New Black Market opportunity ahoy!

Had a long hard chat with the Mevta rep back at Vapecon, actually the issue locally lies with NOBODY wanting to take responsibility for oversight. Or something. Typical Malaysian fluff.

Oh well.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 14 2017, 06:07 PM

Go check out Mevta's FB. KKM already set July this year IINM as the end date for "open" nic juice sales during the guidelines meetings - the ones that were held when Vaping was "un"-banned last year.

Heard it on the Interwebs some time ago but I personally confirmed the news with the Mevta rep over at Vapecon. Hence why some players in the market are gearing down.

Why? Coz apparently Nic - even after Vaping itself being allowed - is still a class A poison according to KKM. Funnily enough, seems they're not calling it a full on "ban" on nic juices, just a "prohibition" against retail sales. Make what you will from this subtle distinction.

That said, it's the supposed end date for "open" sales. Things will probably continue under the table as usual anyway... Especially as Vaping itself isn't prohibited. And I'm thinking that the "bigger" players will have enough pockets lined that they might not have much of a problem.

Malaysia is Malaysia after all.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 15 2017, 01:26 AM

I have some Jap pipes and fully organic Japanese traditional tobacco all stocked up if it comes down to that...

... But Imma REALLY hoping that it doesn't.

The Jap stuff might be low tar and relatively chemical free compared to normal ciggies, but it's still an inferior Nicotine delivery method compared to our beloved Vaping.

BTW, I think they have Pico Squeeze in stock over at Shopee IINM. Try go check.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Apr 15 2017, 03:05 PM