If i remember correctly, desaria villa project was in 03, I think vp ard 06. Our units were leased 10+2 yrs to their management Pantas Mayang. You know la LKW then. 10 yr later came manor to the horizon

There are definitely more cars and less Arabs and Blacks in Cyberjaya today. A lot more new offices especially Telekom moving their head office there is the big contributor. That’s why certain parts of Cyberjaya are doing well but there are still a lot of areas that is a bit dark at night due to the lousy street lights. Not as quiet as when I moved in right before the first MCO but still not busy like Bandar Puteri or SS2. The Chinese population has increased but the availability of Chinese food is still low but not totally unavailable. The middle class Malay population has increased significantly and from what I observe, they have buying powers. There are a lot of cafes type restaurants in Cyberjaya today opened by Malays. Even though it’s a Malay majority area, there are no rempit problems yet. The ones closest to rempits are probably food delivery riders.

Talking abt Blacks....hahahaha. All my bad memories back in 2012 flow out, lol

My ex gf roommate car was crashed by them. Think got one moment almost every week got at least one car accident happened due to they get drunk and drive fast. But curiously no casualty happen.

Anyway, glad to see now the area is improving. I am a bit jealous indeed as your area got mrt station nearby. Haha

Then I think sure I have spent more than that. Think I am very different with you as I am the kind of person willing to spend for thing I like. Good thing is this 10 years I marry with my wife and stay in this house, renovate in the way we like, especially baby room, furnished with everything we need, that is why this house can still sell in good price. The feeling of "our own house" mean more to us la. If everything counts in dollar and cents, in and out in very details, then in my whole life I can't buy the euro car that we like hahahaha.

My instalment is abt 2k per mth in pass 10 years and next mth I can have 6 digits in my acc after settled loan and everything. If include every single cent spent, maybe my net loss is 100k? But with 10 good years of memory for my home

Landed always yyds. Even my old house in Semenyih also can make 6 digits profit after 10 years.

it's good. property price also higher than most other houses at your area cause you spent on making it nice.

my reply also to your reply 

agree with you on some things beyond money and paper profit.

sold the place? 6 digit incoming must be nice  what is your plan for that? mine coming in too... throw into epf first

Thanks to MCO, the blacks and Arabs population really reduced and replaced by Malaysians.

The MRT stations is criticised by most people in Cyberjaya as it’s not really at the place where there are most people. Its in fact quite far from most residential areas but it’s definitely better than nothing.

Ya, to be honest our MRT really suck but better than none la. So just keep with it lo, as now I can't live without mrt. My only me time is during taking mrt to office. You working cyber or KL? Or WFH?

Maybe I should correct the sentence, not making profit but can get back 6 digits balance after settled loan in year 10th, 😅😅

Purchase and selling price on spa is just paper profit

this is indeed,  a sad reality

I work 4 days in office, 1 day at home. I take ERL. More expensive than MRT but much faster and my office is near KL Sentral. No problem for me even though expensive as I can claim travel allowance. My wife send me to putrajaya Sentral and pick me up after work. The time spent on ERL is the best. No stress of jam and ERL is very punctual and fast. I everyday reach home before 6.30.

I guess u are right, just a paper gain if u are not going to sell yr property.

To many , having a property is just a mean to stay aka  pick your own lifestyle.

To invest,  it is not neccesary to buy a physical house , for example ,  I bought some IOI property shares at around rm 1.15 , about 1 and half years back. I could sell off the shares without having to maintain or move around or revonate etc.                                       

Ya if sell yr house, chance that u need to buy another at market price,  and the headache to move around. Or yr  lifestyle may change completely.

Just my way, might not  be suitable  for  others to follow.

To me I only buy house for ownstay, and this old house already sold in last mth, waiting lawyer to complete whole process.

Imagine the pain of losing 60% for a property purchase. Unker don't understand why so many people still believe in buying properties.

People will still buy.

Property is like gold. Some people like Illiquid asset. They treat it as safe haven.

Not realizing time has changed.

Unlikely
Historically highrise doesn’t do well in cyberjaya

serious question

what will happen if 50% of the dwellers skipped paying the maintenance?

what will happen to the condo service?

Is Lim Kok Wing still open in Cyberjaya?

Imagine the pain of losing 60% for a property purchase. Unker don't understand why so many people still believe in buying properties.