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post Dec 16 2019, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 16 2019, 01:11 PM)
Youtube should be able to do in 4k, from mecook km3 box itself. And you can verify it.
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Ya i tried playing 4k contents from mecool youtube app.. its playing smooth.
No judder or stutter.. kind a confused with this 2 terms hahha
Like you said probably its becuase myiptv app 4k movies video encoding ?

No idea any if any one having same issue like me using myiptv4k app.


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post Dec 16 2019, 03:21 PM

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hi, can somebody help, mibox 3 enhanced, stuck in Mi logo - boot loop, how to go to recovery mode?
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 16 2019, 08:03 AM)
Hello sifus,

Got a "smart TV" but Android version 4.4, kenot update liao. Thinking get TV box like Mi box or Minix neo T5. Can Xiaomi take the load for 4k?

Mainly use for netflix 4K, nothing else. Using unifi currently the cheapest one. Need to update drillz here to get answers ar? Thank you!

Eh forgot to add, I can pull my cat6 to the device, with that said got any better option. Budget below rm400 if possible
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Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend the Xiaomi Mi Box S where 4K is concerned. For 1080p? it's perfect.. 4K? not so much.. Plenty reports on lag and other bugs. For a reliable (purely) Netflix 4K HDR, bla bla experience? i would recommend Amazon (4K Stick or latest Cube..stretch budget) or Roku (Ultra) devices. Even Google's Chromecast Ultra will do a much better job than the Xiaomi Mi Box S. Downside is you need a separate mobile device to act as it's remote. Expected, the Nvidia Shield remains top dog in that department. But sure over-budget.

QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 16 2019, 01:21 PM)
Ya i tried playing 4k contents from mecool youtube app.. its playing smooth.
No judder or stutter.. kind a confused with this 2 terms hahha
Like you said probably its becuase myiptv app 4k movies video encoding ?

No idea any if any one having same issue like me using myiptv4k app.
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I thought I kinda sorta addressed your concerns in my previous post...Yet still want to pursue.. Okay, I'll bite.. Come pass me the myiptv4k app and any login details.. I'll help you test on my device(s).. Report back. I've got decent CAT6 wired connection..home network is stable & tip top..

QUOTE(MC_Amig0 @ Dec 16 2019, 03:21 PM)
hi, can somebody help, mibox 3 enhanced, stuck in Mi logo - boot loop, how to go to recovery mode?
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Watch and try this...



Then there's this.. How to reset Xiaomi Mi box(enter recovery mode).

This post has been edited by voncrane: Dec 17 2019, 04:52 AM
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post Dec 17 2019, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 17 2019, 04:48 AM)
Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend the Xiaomi Mi Box S where 4K is concerned. For 1080p? it's perfect.. 4K? not so much.. Plenty reports on lag and other bugs. For a reliable (purely) Netflix 4K HDR, bla bla experience? i would recommend Amazon (4K Stick or latest Cube..stretch budget) or Roku (Ultra) devices. Even Google's Chromecast Ultra will do a much better job than the Xiaomi Mi Box S. Downside is you need a separate mobile device to act as it's remote. Expected, the Nvidia Shield remains top dog in that department. But sure over-budget.
Thanks for the advice. I ordered a mibox yesterday (cos wife complain lol) so maybe i move that box to my non 4k tv in the other house.

For amazon stick 4k vs. Cube, only diff is alexa right?


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post Dec 17 2019, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 17 2019, 04:48 AM)
Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend the Xiaomi Mi Box S where 4K is concerned. For 1080p? it's perfect.. 4K? not so much.. Plenty reports on lag and other bugs. For a reliable (purely) Netflix 4K HDR, bla bla experience? i would recommend Amazon (4K Stick or latest Cube..stretch budget) or Roku (Ultra) devices. Even Google's Chromecast Ultra will do a much better job than the Xiaomi Mi Box S. Downside is you need a separate mobile device to act as it's remote. Expected, the Nvidia Shield remains top dog in that department. But sure over-budget.
I thought I kinda sorta addressed your concerns in my previous post...Yet still want to pursue.. Okay, I'll bite.. Come pass me the myiptv4k app and any login details.. I'll help you test on my device(s).. Report back. I've got decent CAT6 wired connection..home network is stable & tip top..
Watch and try this...



Then there's this.. How to reset Xiaomi Mi box(enter recovery mode).
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Hi bro,

I spoke with both mecool and myiptv4k vendor..
Both finger ponting to each other.
Mecool vendor claims this box 4k hdr supported and should play smoothly.
Myiptv got all 4k contents in hdr..
Not sure what hdr is this.
Playing this through mecool can see stutter.
Definitely cannot change player its playing in default player from myiptv app

When spoke to myiptv vendor he claims , he tested in h96max seems fine.
First was pointing to bandwidth, but doenst make sense since my tv netflix app 4k hdr playing smooth.
Later he claimed mecool chipset is s905x2 which is not compatible to 4k hdr.
Chipset has to be above s912 to play 4k hdr from myiptv4k.

But in mecool spec describtion its stated supporting 4k hdr no idea its true or not.

Maybe this box only support 4k not 4k hdr thats why when play its stuttering ?





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post Dec 17 2019, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 17 2019, 08:29 AM)
Hi bro,

I spoke with both mecool  and myiptv4k vendor..
Both finger ponting to each other.
Mecool vendor claims this box 4k hdr supported and should play smoothly.
Myiptv got all 4k contents in hdr..
Not sure what hdr is this.
Playing this through mecool can see stutter.
Definitely cannot change player its playing in default player from myiptv app

When spoke to myiptv vendor he claims , he tested in h96max seems fine.
First was pointing to bandwidth,  but doenst make sense since my tv netflix app 4k hdr playing smooth.
Later he claimed mecool chipset is s905x2 which is not compatible to 4k hdr.
Chipset has to be above s912 to play 4k hdr from myiptv4k.

But in mecool spec describtion its stated supporting 4k hdr no idea its true or not.

Maybe this box only support 4k not 4k hdr  thats why when play its stuttering ?
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H96Max is not a perfect comparison as H96Max is only DRM L3. The decoding mechanism used for a DRM L3 device is different from a DRM L1 device. Example AstroGo has problem with DRM L1 devices on certain playback types.

Don't rule out bandwidth issue as it could be bandwidth issue with myiptv servers. You may have a good highway, but if myiptv servers are not located along the highway, it is located in kampung, then the last mile to the servers will limit the bandwidth.


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post Dec 17 2019, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 17 2019, 08:29 AM)
Hi bro,

I spoke with both mecool  and myiptv4k vendor..
Both finger ponting to each other.
Mecool vendor claims this box 4k hdr supported and should play smoothly.
Myiptv got all 4k contents in hdr..
Not sure what hdr is this.
Playing this through mecool can see stutter.
Definitely cannot change player its playing in default player from myiptv app

When spoke to myiptv vendor he claims , he tested in h96max seems fine.
First was pointing to bandwidth,  but doenst make sense since my tv netflix app 4k hdr playing smooth.
Later he claimed mecool chipset is s905x2 which is not compatible to 4k hdr.
Chipset has to be above s912 to play 4k hdr from myiptv4k.

But in mecool spec describtion its stated supporting 4k hdr no idea its true or not.

Maybe this box only support 4k not 4k hdr  thats why when play its stuttering ?
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install myiptv4k on your phone, see can play 4k smoothly or not?

since box can play other 4k streaming contents means is not box and internet problem

so left only app/box compatibility, and app server bandwidth. also try clear cache/data, reinstall see work or not.
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Dec 17 2019, 10:13 AM)
install myiptv4k on your phone, see can play 4k smoothly or not?

since box can play other 4k streaming contents means is not box and internet problem

so left only app/box compatibility, and app server bandwidth. also try clear cache/data, reinstall see work or not.
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What if his phone is not 4k capable ? tongue.gif
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post Dec 17 2019, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 17 2019, 10:22 AM)
What if his phone is not 4k capable ?  tongue.gif
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his new problem lor... hahaha
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post Dec 17 2019, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 17 2019, 08:24 AM)
Thanks for the advice. I ordered a mibox yesterday (cos wife complain lol) so maybe i move that box to my non 4k tv in the other house.

For amazon stick 4k vs. Cube, only diff is alexa right?
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Sure, Waifus... sweat.gif . Since you've already ordered it. Best to try it out first, who knows they might have pushed an update that makes the Netflix 4K experience smoother. Don't go purchasing another box yet until you can rule out for sure that you want a better experience.

Yup.. Besides their shape & sizes.. It'd be that the Cube has an Ethernet port and serious Alexa integration. The Fire TV Cube is also a full-fledged Alexa speaker. That means that you can speak to it and give it commands without having to hold down a button on the remote (Have to use the remote with the Stick 4K). Now, if you have a smart home with gadgetry you talk to, etc? Then the cube should fit right into that scenario. Else, IMO the stick 4K is good enough. It also supports 4K, HDR10, Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision. It has access to nearly every streaming service you could want, and the vast Amazon App Store.

QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 17 2019, 08:29 AM)
Hi bro,

I spoke with both mecool  and myiptv4k vendor..
Both finger ponting to each other.
Mecool vendor claims this box 4k hdr supported and should play smoothly.
Myiptv got all 4k contents in hdr..
Not sure what hdr is this.
Playing this through mecool can see stutter.
Definitely cannot change player its playing in default player from myiptv app

When spoke to myiptv vendor he claims , he tested in h96max seems fine.
First was pointing to bandwidth,  but doenst make sense since my tv netflix app 4k hdr playing smooth.
Later he claimed mecool chipset is s905x2 which is not compatible to 4k hdr.
Chipset has to be above s912 to play 4k hdr from myiptv4k.

But in mecool spec describtion its stated supporting 4k hdr no idea its true or not.

Maybe this box only support 4k not 4k hdr  thats why when play its stuttering ?
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I'm not surprised that both are pushing the blame on each other. This is precisely one of the reasons Netflix only offers its certifications to a few choice devices (and i agree). Devices that they've ensured are built according to their specifications and should offer up to the very best streaming service. Else, they too would be fielding queries and complaints about their service from non-discerning customers who purchase subpar boxes and expect everything to work smoothly (No, you not one....haha). This way they can focus instead on producing great content and its smooth delivery to us.

The Amologic S905X2 is definitely capable of the following;
Video Decoding: H.265, VP9, AVS2 up to 4Kp75 10bit H.264 4Kp30
HDMI Tx: HDMI 2.1 + HDCP2.2
HDR: HLG/HDR10/10+ Dolby Vison, & TCH PRIME.
However, as we've talked about in here. It usually isn't just about great hardware. If the software isn't written well enough to properly tap into the HW and ensure smoothness? Then it's all wasted. Which is why 2 separate boxes from different manufacturers, speccing similar HW can operate quite differently. AFAIK, the Mecool spec sheet isn't lying. It's like how car manufacturers claim top speed of say 240km/h. But you still need a bunch of stuff to align perfectly (or at least, nearly perfectly), such as a skilled driver, excellent fuel, tyres and more importantly a smooth road stretch to to test that limit. Similarly for the box to do what it claims (if it can), you need to provide it with the right set of conditions. If you've done that and a particular app/service isn't working as should? Then logically, gotta deduce it's that app/service lor. Ask yourself, Netflix 4K HDR support on the Mecool. Do you blame the box or Netflix?

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 17 2019, 10:22 AM)
What if his phone is not 4k capable ?  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 17 2019, 02:01 PM)
Sure, Waifus... sweat.gif . Since you've already ordered it. Best to try it out first, who knows they might have pushed an update that makes the Netflix 4K experience smoother. Don't go purchasing another box yet until you can rule out for sure that you want a better experience.

Yup.. Besides their shape & sizes.. It'd be that the Cube has an Ethernet port and serious Alexa integration. The Fire TV Cube is also a full-fledged Alexa speaker. That means that you can speak to it and give it commands without having to hold down a button on the remote (Have to use the remote with the Stick 4K). Now, if you have a smart home with gadgetry you talk to, etc? Then the cube should fit right into that scenario. Else, IMO the stick 4K is good enough. It also supports 4K, HDR10, Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision. It has access to nearly every streaming service you could want, and the vast Amazon App Store
Okies, i will try and then see first. Thanks for the advice
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dear ll, i need help on my mi box 2.

currently the youtube unable to play. i believe is due to some verification process needed because youtube detected high streaming from my wifi ip hence verification needed.
but my mi box 2 dont have this verification function hence the youtube apps not accessible.
any idea how to make it work again?
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QUOTE(y4ng @ Dec 17 2019, 02:11 PM)
Okies, i will try and then see first. Thanks for the advice
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Dec 17 2019, 03:34 PM)
dear ll, i need help on my mi box 2.

currently the youtube unable to play. i believe is due to some verification process needed because youtube detected high streaming from my wifi ip hence verification needed.
but my mi box 2 dont have this verification function hence the youtube apps not accessible.
any idea how to make it work again?
thansk
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Is your Mibox running Global or China-specific ROM?.. TBH, first time me hearing ppl get "banned" from watching YouTube.. shocking.gif Usually Google wants you to keep watching it all day cuz ads etc...
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Dec 17 2019, 03:34 PM)
dear ll, i need help on my mi box 2.

currently the youtube unable to play. i believe is due to some verification process needed because youtube detected high streaming from my wifi ip hence verification needed.
but my mi box 2 dont have this verification function hence the youtube apps not accessible.
any idea how to make it work again?
thansk
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Clear the data/cache for the youtube app and you can start all over again.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 17 2019, 02:01 PM)
Sure, Waifus... sweat.gif . Since you've already ordered it. Best to try it out first, who knows they might have pushed an update that makes the Netflix 4K experience smoother. Don't go purchasing another box yet until you can rule out for sure that you want a better experience.

Yup.. Besides their shape & sizes.. It'd be that the Cube has an Ethernet port and serious Alexa integration. The Fire TV Cube is also a full-fledged Alexa speaker. That means that you can speak to it and give it commands without having to hold down a button on the remote (Have to use the remote with the Stick 4K). Now, if you have a smart home with gadgetry you talk to, etc? Then the cube should fit right into that scenario. Else, IMO the stick 4K is good enough. It also supports 4K, HDR10, Dolby Atmos and Dolby Vision. It has access to nearly every streaming service you could want, and the vast Amazon App Store.
I'm not surprised that both are pushing the blame on each other. This is precisely one of the reasons Netflix only offers its certifications to a few choice devices (and i agree). Devices that they've ensured are built according to their specifications and should offer up to the very best streaming service. Else, they too would be fielding queries and complaints about their service from non-discerning customers who purchase subpar boxes and expect everything to work smoothly (No, you not one....haha). This way they can focus instead on producing great content and its smooth delivery to us.

The Amologic S905X2 is definitely capable of the following;
Video Decoding: H.265, VP9, AVS2 up to 4Kp75 10bit H.264 4Kp30
HDMI Tx: HDMI 2.1 + HDCP2.2
HDR: HLG/HDR10/10+  Dolby Vison, & TCH PRIME.
However, as we've talked about in here. It usually isn't just about great hardware. If the software isn't written well enough to properly tap into the HW and ensure smoothness? Then it's all wasted. Which is why 2 separate boxes from different manufacturers, speccing similar HW can operate quite differently. AFAIK, the Mecool spec sheet isn't lying. It's like how car manufacturers claim top speed of say 240km/h. But you still need a bunch of stuff to align perfectly (or at least, nearly perfectly), such as a skilled driver, excellent fuel, tyres and more importantly a smooth road stretch to to test that limit. Similarly for the box to do what it claims (if it can), you need to provide it with the right set of conditions. If you've done that and a particular app/service isn't working as should? Then logically, gotta deduce it's that app/service lor. Ask yourself, Netflix 4K HDR support on the Mecool. Do you blame the box or Netflix?

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Hi brother.. did some survey

Himedia Q5 PRO 4KHDR
Android 7 (2GB RAM 8GB ROM)
CPU: Hi3798cv200
CORE: QUAD CORE
GPU: ARM Mali-720
RM599

-- tested myiptv 4k hdr movies, loading takes time. Play smooth but HDR quality bad.
-- after few mins kicked out, have to relaunch movie again

Himedia A5 4KHDR
Android 6 (2GB RAM 16GB ROM)
CPU: Amlogic S912
CORE: OCTA CORE ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
GPU: ARM Mali-T820MP3
RM469

-- testd myiptv 4k hdr movies, streaming fast and smooth
-- HDR quality is good compared to Q5 model
-- No stutter , but slighty had judder then back to normal

So i belive, MECOOL KM3 android 9.0 Amlogic S905X2 QUADCORE Cortex-A53 , GPU-Mali-G31 MP2 "Dvalin"
Is underperforming for online 4K HDR movies compared to HIMEDIA A5
Myiptv only compatible android 7 onward,
no idea why got kicked out in himedia Q5 android 7 and playing in himedia A5 android 6.
Mecool android 9 yet got issue with hardwares i believe.
Is the any difference between output in some.devices
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 with HDR
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 (4K@60z)



Like to test on MINIX, if got chance...

MINIX NEO U9H
Android 6, 2GB RAM 16GB ROM
OCTA CORE Cortex A53 , Mali-820MP3 GPU
RM520

MINIX NEO X39
Android 7.1.2 4GB RAM 32GB ROM
DUAL CORE Cortex A72 + QUAD CORE Cortex A53 , GPU MaliT860MP , CPU: Rockchip 3399
RM781

MINIX NEO T5
Android 9, 2GB RAM 16GB ROM
AMLOGIC S905X2, QUAD CORE Arm Cortex-A53 , GPU: ARM Mali-G31MP2
RM399


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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Dec 18 2019, 12:12 PM)
Hi brother.. did some survey

Himedia Q5 PRO 4KHDR
Android 7 (2GB RAM 8GB ROM)
CPU: Hi3798cv200
CORE: QUAD CORE
GPU: ARM Mali-720
RM599

-- tested myiptv 4k hdr movies, loading takes time. Play smooth but HDR quality bad.
-- after few mins kicked out, have to relaunch movie again

Himedia A5 4KHDR
Android 6 (2GB RAM 16GB ROM)
CPU: Amlogic S912
CORE: OCTA CORE ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
GPU: ARM Mali-T820MP3
RM469

-- testd myiptv 4k hdr movies, streaming fast and smooth
-- HDR quality is good compared to Q5 model
-- No stutter , but slighty had judder then back to normal

So i belive, MECOOL KM3 android 9.0 Amlogic S905X2 QUADCORE Cortex-A53 , GPU-Mali-G31 MP2 "Dvalin"
Is underperforming for online 4K HDR movies compared to HIMEDIA A5
Myiptv only compatible android 7 onward,
no idea why got kicked out in himedia Q5 android 7 and playing in himedia A5 android 6.
Mecool android 9 yet got issue with hardwares i believe.
Is the any difference between output in some.devices
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 with HDR
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 (4K@60z)

Like to test on MINIX, if got chance...

MINIX NEO U9H
Android 6, 2GB RAM 16GB ROM
OCTA CORE Cortex A53 , Mali-820MP3 GPU
RM520

MINIX NEO X39
Android 7.1.2 4GB RAM 32GB ROM
DUAL CORE Cortex A72 + QUAD CORE Cortex A53 , GPU MaliT860MP , CPU: Rockchip 3399
RM781

MINIX NEO T5
Android 9, 2GB RAM 16GB ROM
AMLOGIC S905X2, QUAD CORE Arm Cortex-A53 , GPU: ARM Mali-G31MP2
RM399

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Is the any difference between output in some.devices
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 with HDR
OUTPUT: HDMI 2.0 (4K@60z)

The difference should be with and without HDR.. Also unless the first option is limited to 4K30fps...

Thanks for taking the time to run those tests... i would also love to run a few too.. If you could PM me the apk and login info, I could check on the devices I have on hand and report back. Ultimately, It's what I remarked earlier. It isn't always about great hardware or OS version. My previous box was the Minix Neo U1 running Lollipop. Lollipop by today's standards is considered "old".. But not to me, why? Cuz the folks at Minix made a darn good stable ROM and they are known for that. So sure, I'm also trying to get my hands on the newer Minix devices. So fingers crossed on that end. But if you do get em before i do, feel free to run the test on it too.

Oh yeah, when you say "Kicked out".. Do you mean the app disconnects the service? Please elaborate.. Else, I'm thinking you mean your account was kicked off the servers. maybe since testing on too many devices, they thinking dupes? ... Don't know.. So if it's that, then not HW issue. Lastly, since the Mecool has an Amlogic SoC, did you try playback with the AFRd app & or daemon running? Perhaps, that could help with the smoothness.
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Do me a favour if this works on your box and what the max resolution u could get pls...

Netflix HD for Mecool M8S Pro L
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Recommended to install anti virus software on Android box?.
Anybody install?.
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MINIX NEO U9H - Anyone here can recommend the latest firmware to be updated on this box. I'm still using the stock version and I think it's time for update. Please let me know ya...thanks and appreciate for your help.
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QUOTE(gin&tonic @ Dec 19 2019, 06:36 AM)
Recommended to install anti virus software on Android box?.
Anybody install?.
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Where got virus in Android or even Android Box?..

It just make your box heavy je..


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