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post Dec 22 2019, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 22 2019, 06:35 AM)
There are few things i am not sure about android box system.
I saw a few demo set along those store.

1.How do I disable or remove those launcher interface ? each android box have their launcher which is hard to navigate using a remote control.I just prefer something simple like stock android which apps are just on the front page.I worry after remove or disable will crash and boot loop.
You will need to have at least one launcher. You can have mulitiple launchers. If you don't like the current launcher, you could install and check if other launcher works.

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2. Which so many android box , some are with remote control but no shutdown button but with only sleep red button.Is there a way to totally poweroff the device rather than sleep mode ? All the android box with their own interface doesn't have a turn off button ? tested long press will not work.
This is usually configurable, to go to sleep or to go to shutdown. And firmware specific.

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3. How do i block ads from a various apps in 1 go ? as for non rooted box , is it possible to block all popup or google ads from every apps ? some ads are unrelated and worry when they click it and brings up a browser and install some malware.
This case to case depends on the apps you installed. Some apps the ads go away if you pay. If you are rooted, you can try 'Adaway' to remove ads, but it is not 100% effective.

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4. Does android box allow rooting ? SOme apps are include data/data which I wanted to backup.Does sdk tools allow to pull data/data from the androidbox without rooting ?
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Depends on the boxes you bought. Some boxes cannot be rooted. Some boxes are rooted by default.

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post Dec 23 2019, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 22 2019, 07:16 AM)
You will need to have at least one launcher. You can have mulitiple launchers. If you don't like the current launcher, you could install and check if other launcher works.
This is usually configurable, to go to sleep or to go to shutdown. And firmware specific.
This case to case depends on the apps you installed. Some apps the ads go away if you pay. If you are rooted, you can try 'Adaway' to remove ads, but it is not 100% effective.
Depends on the boxes you bought. Some boxes cannot be rooted. Some boxes are rooted by default.
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1. How do I set and disable a launcher ? is it a good idea ? some launcher Interface give less information.Still prefer android stock widget which I can add Analog clock time , Weather widget and bandwidth usage widget and even some news feed.Some android box Interface just like microsoft win10 launcher.

2. Didn't go to setting since it's on demo set.But the remote are on sleep mode.No option for shutdown.

3. I found the only way is to route a traffic via VPN to block ads for non root user.There are a few ads block.But I feel all of our apps info are routed to their vpn.Worry those vpn doesn't keep our privacy.Such as facebok and browser history.Some apps tv needed malaysia IP if it route to a vpn with non malaysia ip address will not work.

4. I am still deciding whether get with unroot or rooted box.Which one do you suggest ? Sometimes , some apps need to backup with data/data.Which android box have a fuction to easy unroot and root or 1 click root ? https://www.xda-developers.com/best-one-click-root-2018/




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post Dec 23 2019, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 23 2019, 01:35 AM)
1. How do I set and disable a launcher ? is it a good idea ? some launcher Interface give less information.Still prefer android stock widget which I can add Analog clock time , Weather widget and bandwidth usage widget and even some news feed.Some android box Interface just like microsoft win10 launcher.
There is something called default launcher. When you have multiple launchers and no default, when you press home button, android will prompt you to pick one launcher to run. When a default is set, then no more prompting. You can also clear the default.

Not all launchers will run, many firmware have limited platform libraries installed, so only limited number of launchers can run well.

So behaviour is depending on box A to box B.

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2. Didn't go to setting since it's on demo set.But the remote are on sleep mode.No option for shutdown.

3. I found the only way is to route a traffic via VPN to block ads for non root user.There are a few ads block.But I feel all of our apps info are routed to their vpn.Worry those vpn doesn't keep our privacy.Such as facebok and browser history.Some apps tv needed malaysia IP if it route to a vpn with non malaysia ip address will not work.

4. I am still deciding whether get with unroot or rooted box.Which one do you suggest ? Sometimes , some apps need to backup with data/data.Which android box have a fuction to easy unroot and root or 1 click root ? https://www.xda-developers.com/best-one-click-root-2018/
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Nothing specific can be mentioned if no brand is mentioned as all these are mostly varies from one box to another.
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post Dec 23 2019, 07:11 PM

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I'm having mibox s but the performance seem not good. Anyone can recommend which tv box is good ?price around rm500. Requirement at least 2gb ram and 16gb storage and taiwan live channels free for life.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 23 2019, 06:48 AM)
There is something called default launcher. When you have multiple launchers and no default, when you press home button, android will prompt you to pick one launcher to run. When a default is set, then no more prompting. You can also clear the default.

Not all launchers will run, many firmware have limited platform libraries installed, so only limited number of launchers can run well.

So behaviour is depending on box A to box B.
Nothing specific can be mentioned if no brand is mentioned as all these are mostly varies from one box to another.
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I went for AliceUX for a test , there is no option on checking background apps running.I done a check , there is no option to change default launcher.I would rather change back to default android launcher like stock asop.Much more easier to navigate with mouse.

Any guide on youtube ? I can't find the interface alice.Not able to check background apps or cache running or disable the launcher.
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post Dec 24 2019, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 23 2019, 11:37 PM)
I went for AliceUX for a test , there is no option on checking background apps running.I done a check , there is no option to change default launcher.I would rather change back to default android launcher like stock asop.Much more easier to navigate with mouse.

Any guide on youtube ? I can't find the interface alice.Not able to check background apps or cache running or disable the launcher.
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Please take some time to read page one completely and understand it.. Then read the last 20 or so pages to get familiar. Most of the "Issues" you are encountering are primarily cuz you went to view some dunno what boxes... A good box will handle all these "issues".. Pls don't ask me which is a good box just yet..Got a few and dependent on few factors.. Do some reading first.. No extreme spoon-feeding. Return when you are wiser.. Sure entertain properly. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(koala225 @ Dec 23 2019, 07:11 PM)
I'm having mibox s but the performance seem not good. Anyone can recommend which tv box is good ?price around rm500. Requirement at least 2gb ram and 16gb storage and taiwan live channels free for life.
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That bold part is an issue. Instead focus on getting a good box AND a separate service to run on that good box.. You'll do well to read page one too. Thanks.
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post Dec 24 2019, 08:27 AM

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Hi
When im using Chrome to stream video in a website, some movie can be loaded but some cannot.
When I switch to Firefox , all movie can play but cannot switch to fullscreen (no respond when click the fullscreen icon)
I try opera as well but lagging n buffering a lot
Not all website, some website no prob.
May I know how to solve this?
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post Dec 24 2019, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 23 2019, 11:37 PM)
I went for AliceUX for a test , there is no option on checking background apps running.I done a check , there is no option to change default launcher.I would rather change back to default android launcher like stock asop.Much more easier to navigate with mouse.
Your requirements are considered rare and quite the opposite of what most people want.

Typically few will be interested to check background apps running.

Option to clear default launcher is always there. You just don't know where to find it.

But that does not mean the so-called "default android launcher" is actually available and installed on the box you tested.

Nobody wants to use the android launcher on a TVBox.

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Any guide on youtube ? I can't find the interface alice.Not able to check background apps or cache running or disable the launcher.
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For youtube, install smartyoutube apk. Again, the requirement to check background apps is rare. Few people are bothered with it.


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post Dec 24 2019, 07:34 PM

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I install RTM Mobile apk on my Hypptv box (I want to watch RTM1/2). The splash screen appears then closes. Any idea why?
https://apkpure.com/rtm-mobile/my.gov.rtm.mobile

Also installed Google PinYin Input keyboard that fails to show. Any recommendation of a keyboard (app) that allow me to input chinese word?
https://apkpure.com/google-pinyin-input/com...utmethod.pinyin

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post Dec 24 2019, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 24 2019, 12:06 AM)
Please take some time to read page one completely and understand it.. Then read the last 20 or so pages to get familiar. Most of the "Issues" you are encountering are primarily cuz you went to view some dunno what boxes... A good box will handle all these "issues".. Pls don't ask me which is a good box just yet..Got a few and dependent on few factors.. Do some reading first.. No extreme spoon-feeding. Return when you are wiser.. Sure entertain properly.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yeh, surely knew less about those box.As I remember reading along , box like Nvidia Shield , minix besides the box also must contain a good chipset like Amlogic rather than a box.Middle range would be mecool.
I google out some interface are tanix or svi or evpad which I am not able to see those background process apps running.No option to set or view the process.


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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 24 2019, 10:53 PM)
Yeh,  surely knew less about those box.As I remember reading along , box like Nvidia Shield , minix besides the box also must contain a good chipset like Amlogic rather than a box.Middle range would be mecool.
I google out some interface are tanix or svi or evpad which I am not able to see those background process apps running.No option to set or view the process.
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Because nobody worries about it. They think the built in house keeping mechanism of android is good enough.

But hey if you are so worried, you can install additional apps to do it.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Dec 25 2019, 08:57 AM
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post Dec 25 2019, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(clj @ Dec 24 2019, 08:27 AM)
Hi
When im using Chrome to stream video in a website, some movie can be loaded but some cannot.
When I switch to Firefox , all movie can play but cannot switch to fullscreen (no respond when click the fullscreen icon)
I try opera as well but lagging n buffering a lot
Not all website, some website no prob.
May I know how to solve this?
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Could be browser or website issue. Personally, I avoid (never have to anyways) watching videos in a web browser. However, I can understand hat not all services have a decent app or an addon for smooth easy streaming. Try Brave and Dolphin browsers..

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Dec 24 2019, 07:34 PM)
I install RTM Mobile apk on my Hypptv box (I want to watch RTM1/2). The splash screen appears then closes. Any idea why?
https://apkpure.com/rtm-mobile/my.gov.rtm.mobile

Also installed Google PinYin Input keyboard that fails to show. Any recommendation of a keyboard (app) that allow me to input chinese word?
https://apkpure.com/google-pinyin-input/com...utmethod.pinyin
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I think your first issue is to get rid of that problematic box and get a decent more freer box to toy with.

QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 24 2019, 10:53 PM)
Yeh,  surely knew less about those box.As I remember reading along , box like Nvidia Shield , minix besides the box also must contain a good chipset like Amlogic rather than a box.Middle range would be mecool.
I google out some interface are tanix or svi or evpad which I am not able to see those background process apps running.No option to set or view the process.
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I can confidently tell you that on a Minix device using their airmouse.. There's even a dedicated button to pull up running apps. But as has been pointed out.. This is a device that's primarily used for media consumption. Meaning, people just launch whatever app they need for that moment and use it till done. Then just switch to another app. A good firmware will handle foreground and background apps without any issues.

Some other boxes just come with a handy button on the home screen, to kill running apps. Why? Cuz most often than not.. Most are just interested in that and not running processes. Like I said, we power it on, watch or play our desired content and promptly put it back to sleep and or shutdown. Though you can install third-party apps that MIGHT work.. It's a box dependent feature.

If I may ask, why does being able to view running processes interest you?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 25 2019, 08:36 AM)
Because nobody worries about it. They think the built in house keeping mechanism of android is good enough.

But hey if you are so worried, you can install additional apps to do it.
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At first I though android box is just an ASOP with additional tweak on launcher on taskbar.That is all.I never know , even on android box , I can't access some function.
Not familiar with additional apps , which apps to install directly refer to apps cache ? such as picture below ?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/androi...ackground-kill/
This is the most basic android default settting.Actually i too doesn't care much but while I looking on those box with 16GB and 2GB ram , I wonder how tv apps able to cache on just 500MB of ram.Without knowing which apps is high resoucres usge on ram and etc on background.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 25 2019, 10:00 AM)
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If I may ask, why does being able to view running processes interest you?
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Yeh , I saw a lot of review on minix on youtube and on their airmouse too.I do understand most user here just mean to running their media apps and doesn't care much on other issue.

My post above , most cheaper model with 16GB 2GB ram will have ram running issue.Remember I asked about 2GB ram about mecool and minix you mention before ? both having a good firmware and interface may have a good ram management.
As for those lower ends android box with 2GB ram (evapd , tanix or what ever box i saw along the demo) will have an issue here.The standard minimum usage of android 7.0 need about 1.2GB of ram.Not to mention when a lot of apps running on background.Some tv apps tend to hook up on the background on the ram or cache.A standard google service already took over 300MB ram.Not to mention Atog , kodi or netfilix and other tvapps running on the background.

Besides , it also important to know whether there are virus install on the android box.Without able to view is quite dangerous.Lag , high CPU usage and even high temp 80'c or above will cause the hardware to fail in faster timeframe.
You know , most free media tv apps tend to have a lot of ads which we sometimes unintentionally click ok to install.
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Main Features:
● Android 9.0 OS and RK3318 Quad-core 64-bit ARM CortexTM - A53
Comes with Android 9.0 OS, powered by the high-performance RK3318 quad-core CPU, including a Mali-450 GPU.
● 2GB / 4GB RAM + 16GB / 32GB / 64GB ROM
2GB / 4GB RAM + 16GB / 32GB / 64GB ROM provides plentiful room to quickly run the device. Supports TF card reading up to 64GB, it also greatly improves the reliability of your TV box.
● HEVC H.264 And VP9
H.264 and VP9 hardware decoding can save 50 percent bandwidth resources, let you watch the 4K movie smoothly. Every detail of the screen is lucidity.
● UHD 4K Resolution
Supports 4K UHD video hardware decoding, which provides you high definition viewing and fluent video playing, making it as the highest resolution signal available for home movies.
● 2.4GHz WiFi
2.4GHz WiFi good signal penetration ability, 100Mbps high-speed transmission

USD30 only
https://gearbest.app.link/v72yJs9DJ2

This post has been edited by Scissorshand: Dec 26 2019, 10:27 PM
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Hi all,

Need some recommendation on a replacement for my Minix U1 that died on me recently (and also to replace the Neo T5 that I had to return)..

I only use my box to run Kodi / Plex to stream videos from my NAS, AOTG, HBO GO and YouTube / YouTube Kids..

What I loved about the U1 was the stability and simple set up.. Box was unrooted, so I could install/update the apps I needed from Play Store and everything just works.. It was the opposite from the Neo T5, which was running ATV.. And with how the most recent AOTG stutters on the ATV, I'm trying to avoid it now..

From the various threads I've read in the forum, it seems like the Tanix TX3 should be sufficient to meet my needs, but AOTG still needs to be sideloaded. While I'm still able to do this, I'm just wondering if there are other options that can give me the same experience as the U1, within a budget of about RM 500? The Minix U9-H is no longer listed on Minix website, so not sure about the support on that.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 26 2019, 06:27 PM)
At first I though android box is just an ASOP with additional tweak on launcher on taskbar.That is all.I never know , even on android box , I can't access some function.
Not familiar with additional apps , which apps to install directly refer to apps cache ? such as picture below ?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/androi...ackground-kill/
This is the most basic android default settting.Actually i too doesn't care much but while I looking on those box with 16GB and 2GB ram , I wonder how tv apps able to cache on just 500MB of ram.Without knowing which apps is high resoucres usge on ram and etc on background.
Yeh , I saw a lot of review on minix on youtube and on their airmouse too.I do understand most user here just mean to running their media apps and doesn't care much on other issue.

My post above , most cheaper model with 16GB 2GB ram will have ram running issue.Remember I asked about 2GB ram about mecool and minix you mention before ? both having a good firmware and interface may have a good ram management.
As for those lower ends android box with 2GB ram (evapd , tanix or what ever box i saw along the demo) will have an issue here.The standard minimum usage of android 7.0 need about 1.2GB of ram.Not to mention when a lot of apps running on background.Some tv apps tend to hook up on the background on the ram or cache.A standard google service already took over 300MB ram.Not to mention Atog , kodi or netfilix and other tvapps running on the background.

Besides , it also important to know whether there are virus install on the android box.Without able to view is quite dangerous.Lag , high CPU usage and even high temp 80'c or above will cause the hardware to fail in faster timeframe.
You know , most free media tv apps tend to have a lot of ads which we sometimes unintentionally click ok to install.
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Here's the thing about RAM and these "TV boxes"... Having the most RAM doesn't always necessarily translate to being the better option. For some (as was I for awhile with the Minix Neo U1) having just 2GB RAM is more than sufficient for most apps. Think about it this way... AOSP ROM vs Touchwiz ROM on a Samsung device.. Which OS do you think would be using up most of the RAM? I'm sure you'd agree it's the stock Touchwiz ROM. Why? cuz bloat!.. So the same device with say 2GB RAM will offer different performance depending on the FW and as you've pointed out, the amount of constantly running apps and services in the background. It's the same thing here.. Folks like Minix are known for their almost vanilla-like experience (not UI..I'm referring to being as clutter-free as possible). They let the user customize as they see fit. Don't get me wrong, having decent RAM nowadays is equally important especially if you know you'll need it. Maybe you want to run VMs or NAS-like services whilst playing a 3D intensive game and streaming at the same time.. I don't know and don't judge.. biggrin.gif .. but you get my point. With such a requirement, a 2GB RAM device definitely won't be enough to handle all that smoothly, no matter how good the fw and RAM management is.. Eventually it might have to kill/sacrifice performance in the background, to make what's running on the foreground run better. But for someone who just comes home and watches one media app at a time, such as ehem iptv, Kodi, aotg, etc? Just launch, watch.. once done, exit and launch another.. 2GB is plenty. Just need to focus on a device with solid FW and good RAM management.

Regarding being able to check running apps... Some boxes like those from Minix do ship with easy to check/call up running services feature...There's even a dedicated button on their remote. Other devices, tend to offer a "kill all" switch. Which does it's job, but Android being Android will simply call back some processes and it begins to fill up again. By right and with a good FW, you should not bother with manual RAM management. Partly why even the latest Minix Neo T5 still ships with 2GB DDR3 RAM & 16GB ROM. Could they have gone bigger? Of course.. But it appears they aren't interested. It's all handled beautifully behind the scenes. Also, unused RAM as they say is wasted RAM.. So just cuz you are seeing consumption stats of say 70%, isn't necessarily a bad thing. It could just be that your more frequently used apps and or services are kept "running", for faster launch when you need them. However, you can still insist on knowing exactly what's running, etc.. Then feel free to install one of the several third party apps available in the Play Store or elsewhere. Such as Greenify to perform your own monitoring.

QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Dec 26 2019, 10:24 PM)
Main Features:
● Android 9.0 OS and RK3318 Quad-core 64-bit ARM CortexTM - A53
Comes with Android 9.0 OS, powered by the high-performance RK3318 quad-core CPU, including a Mali-450 GPU.
● 2GB / 4GB RAM + 16GB / 32GB / 64GB ROM
2GB / 4GB RAM + 16GB / 32GB / 64GB ROM provides plentiful room to quickly run the device. Supports TF card reading up to 64GB, it also greatly improves the reliability of your TV box.
● HEVC H.264 And VP9
H.264 and VP9 hardware decoding can save 50 percent bandwidth resources, let you watch the 4K movie smoothly. Every detail of the screen is lucidity.
● UHD 4K Resolution
Supports 4K UHD video hardware decoding, which provides you high definition viewing and fluent video playing, making it as the highest resolution signal available for home movies.
● 2.4GHz WiFi
2.4GHz WiFi good signal penetration ability, 100Mbps high-speed transmission

USD30 only
https://gearbest.app.link/v72yJs9DJ2
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Cheap and with free shipping too... Though I'm not a fan of RK devices... sweat.gif .. Purchase at own risk..be prepared either way.

QUOTE(donhue @ Dec 28 2019, 03:03 PM)
Hi all,

Need some recommendation on a replacement for my Minix U1 that died on me recently (and also to replace the Neo T5 that I had to return)..

I only use my box to run Kodi / Plex to stream videos from my NAS, AOTG, HBO GO and YouTube / YouTube Kids..

What I loved about the U1 was the stability and simple set up.. Box was unrooted, so I could install/update the apps I needed from Play Store and everything just works.. It was the opposite from the Neo T5, which was running ATV.. And with how the most recent AOTG stutters on the ATV, I'm trying to avoid it now..

From the various threads I've read in the forum, it seems like the Tanix TX3 should be sufficient to meet my needs, but AOTG still needs to be sideloaded. While I'm still able to do this, I'm just wondering if there are other options that can give me the same experience as the U1, within a budget of about RM 500? The Minix U9-H is no longer listed on Minix website, so not sure about the support on that.
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Yep.. Noticed that as well... They've only got their Mini PCs and the Neo T5 listed. Discussions on the official forum for the Neo U9-H is still going strong and if like the Neo U1's last official FW... Minix would usually leave their flagships with a rock solid FW, free from as much bugs as possible, before moving on. The remaining slack is usually taken on by the community. So I wouldn't say it's completely abandoned. So yup, you can still go with the Neo U9-H option. Which is what I would go with rather than the Tanix TX3, given your requirements.
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Everything is good with U1 except for the OS version... Hopefully it can last until my next box, I am just worried some of the apps won't work with this old OS. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Dec 28 2019, 08:27 PM)
Everything is good with U1 except for the OS version... Hopefully it can last until my next box, I am just worried some of the apps won't work with this old OS. laugh.gif
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I think Lollipop should be fine for at least the next year or 2.. After that, I doubt it'd still be the minimum requirement for most apps. We all have to move on at some point.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Dec 28 2019, 08:35 PM)
I think Lollipop should be fine for at least the next year or 2.. After that, I doubt it'd still be the minimum requirement for most apps. We all have to move on at some point..  laugh.gif
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Oh ya, it's Lollipop. I keep thinking it's Kit Kat. You are right, maybe 1-2 years then it's about time. After all, it's my second year using it, by then my money is already well-spent. laugh.gif

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