Its not an excuse, its a fact. Its well worth the price coz its the best available. If you deem it too expensive for something that is not perfect, than its obviously not for you. Look for something that gives the best value for you. Everyone has a different view of the value proposition of something. To some a Mercedes-Benz is overpriced in comparison to a Camry, to others a Camry is overpriced compared to a City. In the end none of the cars are perfect and parts wear out, problems appear, etc. But people still buy what they view to be the best value for them even if most people cannot understand why someone needs a Merc or a BMW other than gaya maybe. No right or wrong here, people of different means and in different stages of life view things differently.

Didn't even know that it had an upscaler. Even if it has one, why would anyone use it instead of the upscaler in their TV? Am I missing something. I have always believed that upscaling is best left to the TV in most cases anyway. AVR & Bluray players upscalers should always be disabled unless you have an Oppo player with Darby or something of that cred. So it shouldn't be any different with a TV box.

The Bluray is not really capable of 4K, so its the TV which doing the upscaling.

But newer TV BOx is itself capable of 4K. If resolution is set at 1080p, then basically when playing 4k content, it will have to downscale first by the TV Box, and then upscale again at the TV. Quality will not be good.

So when one has a TV and TVBox which are both capable of 4K, then it is best to set at 4K resolution or best resolution. Then basically one is using the upscaler in the tvbox and never the upscaler in TV.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Feb 13 2018, 06:03 PM

There are UHD bluray players now.

Bolded part don't really understand what you mean. Why would you set resolution at 1080P for a 4K tv? A 4K tv will always upscale to its native resolution whatever you send to it. So why is the tvbox downscaling first and later letting the tv upscale? This seems very wrong and is bound to give poor quality.

If you set 4k resolution in the tvbox, 4k sources will go through as normal without upscaling. So you're saying lower resolution files will be upscaled by the box too and its not possible to allow the TV to do the upscaling?
Never checked this before, will try to see if there are some ways to disable the upscaling.

Blu-ray is 1080p but Blu-ray UHD is 4K resolution. First few titles start appear on 14 February, 2016 and the quality is absolutely outstanding. Netflix 4K is great but still cannot compare with Blu-ray UHD quality.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Feb 13 2018, 07:16 PM

And therefore when uhd bluray player plays non-uhd bluray disc on 4k tv, it is the bluray player which performs the upscaling, not the tv.

From the Bluray UHD player info, it show upscaling from original source. It is from the player itself not the TV.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Feb 13 2018, 07:48 PM

Bro, you still got your sigma/mediatek player around?
I remember back when h264 players were non existent in local market and need to buy those more expensive players like tvix or popcorn hour

The reason for doing the bolded. When the tvbox is doing a shitty job of upscaling and when most of the content one plays is below 4k. Setting resolution to 1080p will then allow the TV to perform 4k upscaling.

Read this thread by Shield users. Some are doing this exact setting in view of poor upscale quality from Shield.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/91...ield-4k-uhd-/4/

Unbelievable Shield did bad on upscaling. Thanks for the information. I was planning to buy Shield Pro because I want big internal storage for gaming.

In this case I need to rethink.

Sold off all my old boxes. Some broken ones had to throw away. Yeah, popcorn hour was deemed one of the best those days and was super expensive in Malaysia. Are you a collector? There still seem to be some interest for the vintage sigma players like Dune & Popcorn hour nowadays.

Read that thread yesterday and tested this out. There is no auto switching for reso & colourspace, so have to manually choose to change it if you want the TV to upscale. Tested out a few HD movies with with 1080p & 4k reso setting on the Shield. Can't see any noticeable difference in PQ but the colour tint is slightly different. Maybe my TV's upscaling is not good as those guys in the thread who all have high end tvs so I can't see much difference. Will need to test further to see how bad it is.

The way I see it, this is not an upscaling issue because I don't expect the Shield to upscale. Its an issue on why the Shield cannot auto-switch resolution & colourspace especially since the issue seems to have been raised 2 years ago. So if this is a showstopper for you, stay away from the shield.

Yes the Shield's colourspace and resolution issue are mentioned in the link I posted earlier from the Kodi forum. It is a post made by a guru developer of Kodi/LibreElec.

Auto resolution seems to be limited by the Android OS, which might be the reason why Shield is unable to do much even though received such feedback 2 years ago.

I think Minix & Himedia fixed this sometime back in their boxes. I remember reading about this 1 or 2 years back when I was using the U1 & Q5 Pro. So its quite bad that nvidia cannot fix this.

guys. I want to stream iflix to tv and I'm deciding to either get chromecast and cast from my phone, or get a andriod box instead and install iflix. will be quality be the same on both device? Which you you recommend?

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Feb 16 2018, 11:22 PM

IFlix is SD and stereo sound only. Either devices, res won't matter. What matters is what else and how you intend to use the device. Buy either based on that.

Hi guys, i am new to this tv box thing and recently got so annoyed with Astro, my friend recommended Infinite TV Box, i saw can be purchased for around 600.

Can someone kindly explain how this tv box works, and how it gets the streams?
Also legality issues?

Any other tv boxes to recommend?

Thanks.

Sells at rm600 for what value ? Look at the spec, it only worth less than rm150.

Perhaps the bulk of the rest of money goes to illegal streaming of astro content ? Such streaming there will be no guarantee to it's long term existence.

Purchase at your own risk.

Thats why i mentioned im new on this matter.
So just wondering if any of the members will kindly explain or have used infinite before.

or any other recommendation.
There are more channels than astro around 500... and astro only produces channel such as astro awani, others its paying to stream it to Malaysians as well.

This post has been edited by Angel01: Feb 18 2018, 07:41 PM

need some recommendation for new Android Box. looking for 3GB/32GB, rooted OOB (optional), good community or forum support. I have 100Mbps Internet, need the box serve well for smooth streaming VOD & LiveTV. I don't need gaming, 4K, HDR, Atmos, DTS-X stuff....

I love a quick response as any other.. BUT see thread title... Noob or not.. no excuse not to check out the first page of any thread first and couple last pages to catch up.. Answers all your questions and more...

Hi. Another new bee here.

I would like to purchase my very first tv box. I have a LG OLED tv with unifi 30mbps internet.

I would like to watch hd/uhd movies and hk/korean drama/variety.

In my mind, there is 3 tv box i am considering. Minix u-9/q10 pro / nvidea shield.

Can you suggest which one is more suitable for me? I dun mind regarding live sport / gaming.

Thanks in advance for guiding the lost soul.